Eredivisie 2008/2009 - Sponsored by McDonald's, McDuck and McClaren

[DJ]

Oh, eh, please allow me to spam this here Dutch Eredivisie Predictions thing

Seems the appropriate thread for it.

[DJ]

PSV beat Feyenoord 2-0 for the God-schaal. Could have been far more, Feyenoord had trouble finding enough players to form a team. No kidding: there were 4 youth players on the bench.

Doesn't bode well for Feyenoords chances in the league. That were dim in the first place of course

[Jeroen Thijssen]

Has anyone else ordered the Eredivisiekanaal by the way?

[DJ]

First blood: Vitesse - Groningen (Hoeren - Boeren? ) 0-4

Very well done FCG

[DJ]

After being effectively kicked out of Ajax by MvB (pretty ruthless stuff by San Marco) Kenneth Perez has decided he wants nothing to do with football anymore.

So he signed for Twente

Kidding, I like FC Twente a lot, they play shexy football - good signing for them.

[Dutch Dave]

Whoah... Groningen had a good start.

I'm going to watch PSV in a moment, after that Ajax. Because I have Eredivisie Live! YEAH!

[georginho_juventusygr]

I've not worked yet.

[Dutch Dave]

Whoa... PSV win 5-1. Afellay world class.

Two first matches in the Eredivisie: 0-4 and 1-5. Great attacking, sh!tty defending, you gotta love that Eredivisie.

[Crazy_T]

anyone know why Radoslaw Matusiak has retired already at 26?

only asking here because I know he played a bit at Heerenveen lately

[DJ]

Yuck

Steek die tientekensregel in je reet...

[Mr Sandman]

i saw Affallay's goal, nice

[DJ]

Frank Demouge scores 1-1 for Tilburg against Ajax

[DJ]

2-1 ffs

[Dutch Dave]

Ajax lost the first match to fecking Willem II

Not sure why we've signed Sno tbh, he looked terrible.

[Roger]

PSV win 5-1

Ajax lose 1-2 :)

[Dutch Dave]

anyone know why Radoslaw Matusiak has retired already at 26?

only asking here because I know he played a bit at Heerenveen lately

No clue, sorry.

[georginho_juventusygr]

Ajax lost the first match to fecking Willem II

Not sure why we've signed Sno tbh, he looked terrible.

Indeed he is.

[georginho_juventusygr]

anyone know why Radoslaw Matusiak has retired already at 26?

only asking here because I know he played a bit at Heerenveen lately

He was loaned to another club if I remember correctly. He wasn't in the plan.

[DJ]

Clever stuff by van Basten. Lull them into a fall sense of security and then....

[/desperate]

[DJ]

PSV win 5-1

Ajax lose 1-2 :)

You don't like football?

[The Pain]

AZ are losing 2-1

[The Pain]

Penalty for AZ

Schaars hits it wide!

[The Pain]

Ft az 1- 2 nac

[DJ]

They're laughing in Eindhoven... AZ, Feyenoord and Ajax all lose. :/

[Dutch Dave]

Weird start of the season, that's for sure.

[Roger]

You don't like football?

I love football. PSV played Utrecht off the park on the weekend.

[Postman32]

what second divison club in the eredivsie have the worse fans like in terms of hooligans?

[DJ]

That's a rethorical question I presume?

[Roger]

what second divison club in the eredivsie have the worse fans like in terms of hooligans?

ADO Den Haag

[Postman32]

ADO Den Haag

Didn't they get promoted this year?

any other ones?

[zeusbheld]

Clever stuff by van Basten. Lull them into a fall sense of security and then....

[/desperate]

brilliant plan. they've got to be feeling pretty (falsely) comfy already...

[Jeroen Thijssen]

what second divison club in the eredivsie have the worse fans like in terms of hooligans?

How can a second division club be in the Eredivisie?

Hooligan scale is probably as follows;

Ajax, Feyenoord, Utrecht, ADO, Twente, FC Den Bosch, PSV, Vitesse, NEC, Groningen... all teams have a bunch of idiots.

it all depends really, Ajax has the most fans but therefore also the most hooligans. Most teams also hate Ajax...

the aforementioned list is probably a mixture of actual happenings and media image. For example, the past 3 years there has been almost no ADO hooliganism, except for some minor violence - while we can all remember the Ajax attack and the Feyenoord riots at Nancy...

If you're looking at Eerste Divisie / Jupiler League teams then probably FC Den Bosch and maybe Go Ahead Eagles who both have a reasonable following. VVV-Venlo perhaps...

[DJ]

I'd put Feyenoord first, then group Fey and Ajax in a category all by themselves. Then move PSV and NEC a bit upwards - although NECs group is tiny, they're incredibly violent. But I'd say ADO is 'best of the rest'. You can wait for the next major riot to happen. And to say matches abandoned are 'minor'... I have to disagree with that.

[Jeroen Thijssen]

PSV fans cause little trouble in general

OK, they was the ADO - Vitesse incident... but in reality that was nowhere near a dangerous situation. I'm not making it good or even condoning it, but it was due to internal affairs. It had zero to do with rivalrous hooligans - we wanted Frans Adelaar out and this was a good way to get it done, in hindsight

[DJ]

LOL it's all tactics

Enjoyed our test match?

Why did Huntelaar get subbed??? Better to take off someone who is just standing on the field being his useless self. Let's randomly pick van Bommel....

[georginho_juventusygr]

Van Bommel made an assist.

[Jeroen Thijssen]

Good goal that was, and Camperbitch scored for the first time in like 15 intl. games :o

[Jeroen Thijssen]

tonight the start of round 2

[PMLF]

Does anyone know which Dutch team signed Jonathas (ex-Cruzeiro)?

CBF (the Brazilian FA) and the media here say it's AZ, but there isn't anything at AZ's site suggesting he joined them.

[Jeroen Thijssen]

Guess who's back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DJ]

One swallow makes not yet summer, but nice one ADO.

Odds on King Louis jumping the ship after all if this continues?

[georginho_juventusygr]

He would find a new job soon.

[georginho_juventusygr]

1 - 0. 1 - 0. 1 - 0. 1 - 0.

[Jeroen Thijssen]

Louis van Gaal should quit effectively immediately. He's a fantastic manager - but once the complete cohesion is gone, they can't bring it back -- it's not gonna work between the players and him (and vice versa) this season anymore.

[Jeroen Thijssen]

1 ADO Den Haag 2 2 0 0 6 8 - 2 
2 FC Groningen 2 2 0 0 6 6 - 0 
3 PSV 2 2 0 0 6 6 - 1 
4 Willem II 2 2 0 0 6 5 - 2 
5 Heracles Almelo 2 1 1 0 4 5 - 3 
6 NEC 2 1 1 0 4 3 - 1 
7 SC Heerenveen 2 1 1 0 4 5 - 4 
8 Feyenoord 2 1 0 1 3 6 - 3 
9 Ajax 2 1 0 1 3 2 - 2 
10 NAC Breda 2 1 0 1 3 3 - 4 
11 De Graafschap 2 1 0 1 3 1 - 2 
12 FC Twente 2 0 2 0 2 2 - 2 
13 Roda JC 2 0 1 1 1 1 - 2 
14 Sparta Rotterdam 2 0 0 2 0 2 - 6 
15 AZ 2 0 0 2 0 1 - 5 
16 Vitesse 2 0 0 2 0 0 - 5 
17 FC Volendam 2 0 0 2 0 2 - 8 
18 FC Utrecht 2 0 0 2 0 1 - 7 

[georginho_juventusygr]

15? Ach ... geen zorgen.

[DJ]

Louis van Gaal should quit effectively immediately. He's a fantastic manager - but once the complete cohesion is gone, they can't bring it back -- it's not gonna work between the players and him (and vice versa) this season anymore.

Kinda weird, it's the players who begged him to stay when he wanted to leave last season, so you'd think their mindset would be OK. Yet, they seem to panic on the pitch. Trying too hard?

[Red_Hector]

Mates can you translate some football terminology for me? I'd love to know the Dutch for...

Pass

Man on

Clear it

Shoot

Your man

Offside

F**k off ref

Good effort

Unlucky

Well played

...would be

[DJ]

Pass - pass

Man on - ?

Clear it - wegschieten

Shoot - schieten

Your man - je man

Offside - buitenspel

F**k off ref - flikker op scheids

Good effort - goed geprobeerd

Unlucky - jammer

Well played - goed gedaan

[Red_Hector]

Man on is like 'careful - an opponent is closing you down'. But thanks for the rest chief!