Senegal's Arsenal thread 2005/6 - A redcurranty farewell to the Home of Footballâ„¢

Mikkel Blue · October 4, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Retro:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mikkel Blue:

he's not a better player than cesc or gilberto. he's a different type of player. maybe the type we need in vieira's absence.

wouldn't pay more than 5 million tho </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If we got him cheap then sure... but I've been hearing quotes over Â£10m and as high as Â£15m which is ludicrous. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that is just a joke value though surely. like Jermiane Jenas being quoted at 20 milion.

personally think we should offer ballack a pre-contract in january rather than faff around trying to find the "new vieira"

Asmodeus · October 4, 2005

Yeah- Ballack would be class.

Olly Kenney · October 4, 2005

Agreed.

Ballack and Casillas on bosman's would be even better though

Asmodeus · October 4, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ollers Kenners:

Agreed.

Ballack and Casillas on bosman's would be even better though </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

One can dream.

wycombe · October 4, 2005

Liverpool v Arsenal to be played Tuesday 14 February (8pm) AS LONG AS both clubs are NOT involved in the UEFA Cup.

Cesc Fabregas the Phenom · October 4, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Ashley Cole has withdrawn from the England squad to play Austria and Poland after suffering a stress fracture of his foot.

Liverpool left-back Stephen Warnock has been called up in his place.

"Ashley has had to pull out," said coach Sven-Goran Eriksson. "He took a scan and has stress fracture and will be out for one month at least."

Captain David Beckham missed training on Tuesday to be with his ill son Romeo but will join the squad on Wednesday.

Striker Michael Owen was also absent as he recovers from the dead leg that forced him to force Newcastle's game against Portsmouth on Saturday - but he is expected to be fit to play.

Eriksson said that the loss of Cole was a blow but that he had plenty of alternatives.

"We have a lot of options there, Jamie Carragher is one, Warnock is another, Kieran Richardson is playing left-back for Manchester United at this moment," he said.

"But it is a pity to lose Ashley Cole, probably the best left-back in the world.

"It so often happens when one full-back is injured the other is as well in Gary Neville and Ashley Cole." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unlucky to lose him, still its a good chance to give Clichy a few games.

wycombe · October 4, 2005

Warnock

England squad has NO depth

Slightly Damp Shrew · October 6, 2005

Surely we won't be signing bouba, what with him being both able and willing to shoot from outside the area?

Â£5mill-Â£9mill would be about right, and knowing Arsene there'd be a lot of appearance conditions and the like.

Would be a superb addition to the squad, and leave us a lot stronger when Bert next crocks himself.

Mikkel Blue · October 6, 2005

Bert's not going to crock himself ffs

He played on with a broken back last year, reckon he only went on the injury list cos Vieira came back and Cesc was playing well so he must have thoght we had him covered.

It'll take death to get him out now tbh

Asmodeus · October 6, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mikkel Blue:

Bert's not going to crock himself ffs

He played on with a broken back last year, reckon he only went on the injury list cos Vieira came back and Cesc was playing well so he must have thoght we had him covered.

It'll take death to get him out now tbh </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't tempt fate.

Mikkel Blue · October 6, 2005

Bert's above fate

Jerome · October 7, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Feyenoord midfielder Hossam Ghaly wants the chance to replace Patrick Vieira at Arsenal.

The Egypt international has been linked with a January move to Highbury after falling out with Feyenoord coach Erwin Koeman.

Ghaly has been warned he must toe the line at De Kuip or risk being shipped out when the transfer window reopens in the New Year.

Koeman doubts whether the 23-year-old can mend his ways and that has sparked talk of a Â£3 million switch to Arsenal.

The Gunners are yet to find a suitable successor to Vieira, after the midfield powerhouse left the FA Cup holders for Juventus during the summer.

Arsene Wenger has been happy to fill the void with the players he has at his disposal but could be tempted to gamble on Ghaly to add further depth to his squad.

Ghaly has witnessed the impact Robin van Persie has made in North London and wants to follow his former Feyenoord team-mate to The Premiership.

"I have one big wish and that is to play for my dream team Arsenal," said Ghaly.

"They play the most beautiful football in the world - technical, fast, one-touch - and it is magnificent to watch.

"Robin van Persie is lucky playing for such a huge team. That isn't jealousy, he deserves the best.

"We get along well and above all he is one of the best players I have ever played alongside."

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Ghaly has potential and if there's one person who can manage that he fullfills his potential is Wenger, it'll be very hard to do that, but Wenger has done that before and can do that again.. Could be a bargain if all works out, but if it doesnt work out he can be a huge pain i the a*se. At Feyenoord he's very inconsistent, and stubborn and causes a lot of problems..

Asmodeus · October 7, 2005

He's a defensive midfielder, right?

What are his strengths/weaknesses?

Father Senegal · October 7, 2005

"I have one big wish and that is to play for my dream team Arsenal," said Ghaly.

god players dont half talk some shlt.

Jerome · October 7, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Asmodeus:

He's a defensive midfielder, right?

What are his strengths/weaknesses? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Strengths: Control, vision, passing, strength, and tackling

Weakesses: Can't take criticism, Workrate, Stubborn, egoistic, cant play ugly (a back pass or just hoofing the ball away) so that he always seeks the solution footballing wise and with a lot of risks.Example: In the Uefa cup match he tried to play the ball between the legs of an opponent in the centre of his own half, that failed, and almost costed a goal

Father Senegal · October 7, 2005

Peter Hill-Wood, the Arsenal chairman, has revealed that he opposed his club's pursuit of Chelsea last season in the Ashley Cole tapping-up case and says that every club are guilty of illegally approaching players.

Hill-Wood told me he was a minority when the Arsenal board decided to pursue Chelsea over the affair leading to a high-profile Premier League hearing at the end of last season which saw Chelsea and Cole fined and much acrimony between the clubs and also between Arsenal and Cole.

Hill-Wood said: "I'd rather we had handled it differently. But the majority of the board felt we had to do something. These matters are not voted on. We didn't agree and I went along quietly. We know this sort of thing [tapping up] goes on all the time. All clubs do it, though Chelsea were rather blatant about it. But I have no ill-feeling towards Chelsea".

He was also generous to the club who are now dominating the Premiership and denied this was causing problems. "I don't think Chelsea are making the Premier League boring. You always have complaints when one club is dominant. Smaller clubs used to complain about us and Manchester United.

"I'm not remotely jealous about Chelsea. Chelsea's strength is that [Jose] Mourinho has turned out to be a very competent coach. Whether he is better than Arsene Wenger or not I am not able to judge. Wenger has been with us for nine years and we have never finished lower than second. I'd rather have Wenger."

Apart from buying Alexander Hleb, Wenger has made no purchases and has done nothing to replace Patrick Vieira but Hill-Wood denied that this was due to the strain of financing the new stadium at Ashburton Grove. Arsenal's recently released financial figures for the year ended May 31, 2005, show the strain of funding the Â£400 million project. With football- related turnover static at Â£115 million (media revenue is down while the commercial revenues are up) the interest bill on the Â£225 million gross debt was Â£14 million or 40 per cent of all match-day revenues.

Hill-Wood said: "We have money in the bank [Â£63 million] and Wenger can buy if he wants to. But Arsene Wenger is not going to buy players to make up numbers. He wants players who can play in the Champions League and, apart from Hleb, he has not found anyone."

Wenger and Arsenal would love to complete a new deal for Theirry Henry, whose contract runs out in 2007, but Hill-Wood said: "We tried to open talks but he wants to wait until the summer." Arsenal now have a playing staff of just 61, their smallest for five years and Sunday's programme showed the contrast between Arsenal and Birmingham. The 31 names in the Birmingham squad were squeezed on to a page while Arsenal's 24 first-team squad players were spread out to fill the page.

Arsenal have had to provide Â£11 million as possible future tax liability as a result of a recent House of Lords decision which affects how they pay some of their overseas players. Employee benefit trusts were set up and this trust paid some of the players' offshore, thus avoiding UK tax.

In 1979 Arsenal tried to pay David O'Leary through a Hambros Channel Island Trust Corporation on which O'Leary, an Irish citizen, claimed he did not have to pay tax. The courts ruled he had to and Hill Wood-said: "This is nothing like the arrangements we made with O'Leary. The payments to the players were made by the trust and it was perfectly legal. But this decision makes these schemes suspect."

He is equally relaxed about the next television deal, which may see live television rights go to a channel other than Sky. "It's very complicated," he said. It might not all be on Sky. But that won't worry me"

Hill-Wood, who is 70, also denied media reports that he had any plans to retire. "Oh that old chestnut. I have no plans to retire at present."

Some interesting bits in there.

Asmodeus · October 7, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jerome:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Asmodeus:

He's a defensive midfielder, right?

What are his strengths/weaknesses? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Strengths: Control, vision, passing, strength, and tackling

Weakesses: Can't take criticism, Workrate, Stubborn, egoistic, cant play ugly (a back pass or just hoofing the ball away) so that he always seeks the solution footballing wise and with a lot of risks.Example: In the Uefa cup match he tried to play the ball between the legs of an opponent in the centre of his own half, that failed, and almost costed a goal </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like he was born to play for us.

Springbok256 · October 7, 2005

we havent really had a big squad in ages and tbf id rather have 24 good quality first teamers than 31 steaming piles of **** like at birmingham

Springbok256 · October 8, 2005

Just showed a video of AG on soccer AM. God it looks soooooooo great already

vidoy · October 8, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Springbok256:

Just showed a video of AG on soccer AM. God it looks soooooooo great already </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will be one hell of a stadium once its finished.

Before everyone wanted to go to Old Trafford (dont see the fuss myself, its just a large stadium, not exactly rich in design) but now it will be Ashburton Grove

Cesc Fabregas the Phenom · October 8, 2005

Campbell's pulled out of the England match, bets on how long he's out for?

My guess is three weeks

H.O.V.I · October 8, 2005

i felt like crying

Cesc Fabregas the Phenom · October 8, 2005

I can't believe we've lost Sol and Ashley

Anymore defensive injuries and we're fooked :/

Mikey G · October 8, 2005

Have no fear, Lauren's here.

wycombe · October 8, 2005

Sol's busted as a top level footballer, his body simply not good enough anymore.

vidoy · October 8, 2005

Its ok, we got Senderos and Clichy

oh and Cygan

H.O.V.I · October 8, 2005

reyes just set up two goals for spain and showed me why he should be playing left wing.

Nick OGS20 · October 8, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vidoy:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Springbok256:

Just showed a video of AG on soccer AM. God it looks soooooooo great already </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will be one hell of a stadium once its finished.

Before everyone wanted to go to Old Trafford (dont see the fuss myself, its just a large stadium, not exactly rich in design) but now it will be Ashburton Grove </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not much attraction in going to a stadium that's not much more than half-full, no matter how attractive it is

Mikey G · October 8, 2005

Even less reason to go to OT

vidoy · October 9, 2005

Madrid apparently are going to bid Â£20M for Henry in January.

Even if his contract is up in 18 months, hes worth more than that! Henry i doubt will leave anyway but you would think the Vieira issue may have made them think of a higher price

Also do they really really need another striker

vidoy · October 9, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vidoy:

Madrid apparently are going to bid Â£20M for Henry in January.

Even if his contract is up in 18 months, hes worth more than that! I dont think Henry will leave anyway but you would think the Vieira issue may have made them think of a higher price

Also do they really really need another striker </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Razzler · October 9, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicom:

Sol's busted as a top level footballer, his body simply not good enough anymore. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think he's good enough but the injury re-occuring is a problem - you wonder whether he'll be able to get 30 games under his belt again anytime soon -/

Cesc Fabregas the Phenom · October 9, 2005

I can see the end of his career turning into something like that of Big Tone. Playing less and less games due to injury.

Real Madrid just want Henry to add to their marketing revenue. Sign a contract you ponce ;mad:

José_9_Reyes · October 9, 2005

Jay-Z In Talks To Purchase Stake In London Soccer Team

By EbenGregory

Date: 10/9/2005 3:53 pm

In a move to expand his increasing business empire, Jay-Z is said to be reportedly in talks to buy a piece of the famed London soccer team, Aresenal FC.

Jay-Z (real name Shawn Carter) has purportedly been in negotiations with Aresenal front office brass to purchase a big stake in the London squad.

Originally a team of munitions workers from southeast London before moving to north London, the Aresenalâ€™s aka the â€œGunnersâ€ have won five English league titles and two F.A. cups.

Now under the guidance of Frenchman ArsÃ¨ne Wenger, it is potentially entering a second golden age as one of Europe's most exciting attacking teams.

If cemented, the deal would be another successful business notch under the Brooklyn entrepreneurâ€™s belt.

Known for his business acumen, Jay-Z has currently enjoying a string of fruitful business deals as of late.

He is currently developing his own S. Carter high-end clothing line, and in the spring he introduced a collaboration with Swiss luxury-watch maker Audemars Piguet.

In addition, Carterâ€™s Rocawear clothing brand is generating some $400 million a year in sales. (Carter and partners recently bought out co-founder Dash for an estimated $25 million.)

Although Carter has mainly orchestrated his deals behind the scenes, his business accomplishments have not gone unnoticed.

The business community recognized Jay-Zâ€™s savvy earlier this year when he was received the British GQâ€™s International Man of the Year award.

He also was recently featured on the cover of the well-respected financial business magazine, Fortune.

vidoy · October 9, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JosÃ©_9_Reyes: