~Ian~ Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Originally posted by ~Ian~:I'm tempted to give this challenge a go, but I'm still on FM07 so can't just download, will have to edit the database myself. Just a few questions so I can have the editing as similar as possible. - What teams were moved up a division to accomodate Manyoo's demotions? - How much were the senior players' wages reduced by, and what was the overall wage budget reduced to? - What was the reputation figure reduced to? - All players who weren't with United at the age of 16 from their academy have to be sent back to their previous clubs? Thanks in advance, looking forward to trying this out, looks like a good challenge. Just bringing my last post to everyone's attention again, I guess the most important question is the one about the wage budget, the rest I can just guess sensibly myself if need be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyb1989 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 @ Ian - sorry I missed your question last time - I shall now answer your questions - I have loaded up the editor so you can get precise stuff. The teams who were moved up were - Sheffield Utd (to prem), Southend (to CCC), Bradford (to CC1) and Oxford (to CC2). Also, Everton replaced Man Utd in the Champions League and Sheff utd replaced Everton in the Uefa Cup. Senior Players wages were all around the £20,000 mark with some like O'Shea and Fletcher around £12-15,000. The remaining wage budget was set at £150,000 and remaining transfer budget at £500,000. The balance was set at £10,000,000 If you want to add this too its up to you - I also reduced average match ticket price to £20 and average season ticket price to £460 Man Utd were given a reputation of 2896 (random number I know!) And yes all players not at the club at the age of 16 from their academy have been sent back. Players like Possebon, Rafael, Fabio and also Dong Fangzhou (my mistake) were kept in the team too - just in case you wanted to add them. If you have any more queries then do not hesitate to ask me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Awesome, cheers for the info. On with the editing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Done the editing, a few discrepancies for being a year behind though. Spurs to Champion's League, Everton to UEFA Cup. Preston, Huddersfield, Grimsby and Halifax all got promoted. Nothing major or game-changing though so it's all good and ready to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 One more question actually - What's the previous experience level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyb1989 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 Sunday League or automatic preferably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Cool, automatic is what I went with. Made a couple of errors editing, forgot to cancel Fraizer Campbell's loan which means I'm a bit short up front. Also made the bank balance £1m, not £10m, but that's fine, not losing money. I don't seem to be racking up any cricket scores so far, just constant wins with 3 or 4 goals. Would be nice to absolutely muller someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knighty99 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Originally posted by jackyb1989:@knighty99 - now I have to say that you have done very well for your first season but I'm afraid I'm going to have to take issue with your use of the corner tactic. Now as its more than likely to win the BSP by that margin I'm not going to disqualify you or anything extreme, but I am going to courteously ask you to refrain from using the corner tactic from now on. I know that I have not put down an explicit rule about this, as I thought it had been sorted by the last patch - but now I see that it hasn't I am inserting it now. Ok no worries, I used it as I usually do, admittedly not with this extreme a success. I apologise if it gave me an unfair advantage. And will now stop using it from the end of the first season onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knighty99 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 @Kassien, hang on in there! It will be worth it in the end and they generally cheer up after a while! I have managed to keep every single major player all the way through to the Premiership so its not impossible! How did you manage to keep all the major players so long? I hav already lost Fletch, O'Shea and Evans by the start of the 2nd season... Board accepting bids over my head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyb1989 Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 @knighty99 - that's part of the challenge! I'm not going to tell you specifically how to do it but whatever you do - do not negotiate! That's the only hint i'm giving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesharpeyshuffle Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Can't get the saved game to load for some reason. Dropped it in the right folder and get an error message when trying to load. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesharpeyshuffle Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Guessing its cos i'm not patched up........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson156 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I cant get this to load either. Shame because i really wanted to play this. Anybody got another copy of the saved game that they want to post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Obviously it depends on whether your computer can handle loading up the editor, but it doesn't take a huge amount of time to edit the database, only took me about 20-30 minutes to make the changes myself. ---------------------------- I'm about 35 games into my first season now, should be finished and have a report up within the next couple of days. Still in both cups, but have suffered a loss in the league to York. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover98 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I have the latest patch but when i try to load it says "fm cannot find the datebase for this saved game". Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesharpeyshuffle Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I'm getting the same problem even though I have now patched up. Any ideas would be much appreciated, really want to give this a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyb1989 Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 Its not a problem, just wait and look at your toolbar, FM is just minimized and you can maximise it up again and it will continue just fine - don't worry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I'm starting this game right now, have just downloaded and about to fire it up . Thanks for all the effort that you have put in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Squad Just a preview post to ensure I'm doing this properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Squad Or maybe this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Manchester United - Season 1 - 2006/07 - Conference National Squad No transfers, either in or out COMPETITIONS Conference National - Winners FA Cup - Runners-up FA Trophy - Winners STAR PLAYERS Top Scorer - Febian Brandy - 62 Most Assists - David Beckham - 25 Highest Rating - Paul Scholes - 8.51 Honorary Mentions - Aaron Burns, Craig Cathcart, Ritchie Jones SEASON SUMMARY Unsurprisingly, the league was a walkover. Only 7 points were dropped, and it was a letdown losing to York. Luckily, a measure of revenge was gained when we beat them 4-1 later in the season. Aldershot and Stevenage were the other teams to take points off of us. The biggest win was an 9-0 thrashing of Gravesend. Febian Brandy had an amazing season upfront, and Paul Scholes and David Beckham were outstanding in midfield. Ritchie Jones and Craig Cathcart didn’t get many chances in the first half of the season, but in the second they established themselves as important members of the team. The main downer of the season was Ryan Giggs breaking his leg in May, hopefully he won’t struggle to get back to fitness and form next season. The FA Cup saw quite an adventure, as we knocked out Watford, Sheffield United, and Cardiff. Then we played Liverpool in the semis, and a great team performance saw us beat them 4-0. The final was one step too far though, Beckham and Brown were both missing through injury and 62-goal man Brandy was on international duty. Despite taking an early lead through a belter from Scholes, we lost 2-1. All in all, the season went well, and the cup run was a pleasant surprise and must have helped towards restoring the reputation of the club. I’m hoping to breeze through League Two as easily next season, and start picking up some quality regens. Should start handing out some long contracts as well for the emerging stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I am enjoying this game so far, have just hit November 2nd 2007 and have just got this message: Stupid Transfer Budget It's not really much use lol, has anybody else had this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Man Utd - Season 1 - Blue Square Premier Squad Transfers Competitions Blue Square Premier - ]1st FA Cup - Lost 5th round to West Brom Setanta Shield - Winners FA Trophy - Winners Community Shield - Runners Up Top Player Performances Most Goals - Wes Brown - 65 Most Assists - David Beckham - 90 Highest Ave. Rating - David Beckham - 8.21 Player of the Year - David Beckham Season Summary As everyone else has found so far, the league was a walkover with me winning all of my 46 games and never really being threatened in any league match. I was happy with my extended run in the FA Cup beating Liverpool and Portsmouth on the way to getting knocked out by West Brom. I always expected to win the Setanta Shield and the FA Trophy so I wasn't supprised at winning them. Fraizer Campell would have proberly finished as top scorer but he got injured and missed the last 4 months of the season, so he ended up with 48 goals in 41 games. Scholes was immense scoring 56 goals and with 27 assists in 59 games! Beckham impressed with his amazing ammount of assists which totaled to 90, he also scored 39 goals. Aims for next season Win League 2 Reach atleast the quater-fianls of JP Trophy Reach atleast the 4th round in both the FA Cup and League Cup Attempt to sign some regens that could be future stars that will enhance my squad Try and keep hold of all my current players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellhmfc Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 You didnt bother to mention wes brown being your top scorer mate, thats somewhat of a surprise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Originally posted by Russellhmfc:You didnt bother to mention wes brown being your top scorer mate, thats somewhat of a surprise On the contrary. Corner exploit - Brown challenge keeper, Beckham supply corner to 6 yard box. Somewhat undermines the value of an experiment if you're going to cheat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by phnompenhandy:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Russellhmfc: You didnt bother to mention wes brown being your top scorer mate, thats somewhat of a surprise On the contrary. Corner exploit - Brown challenge keeper, Beckham supply corner to 6 yard box. Somewhat undermines the value of an experiment if you're going to cheat </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You're right, Brown challenge keeper and Beckham supple corner to 6 yard box. How is it cheating? If you read all the threads that have been made on it you will see that it isn't cheating! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turn it upto 11 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 How is it cheating? If you read all the threads that have been made on it you will see that it isn't cheating! i dont think you should ruin someones experiment with this debate again. @ the person whos exp. it is i think you shouldnt use the corner thing how you are, i notsure if you consider it a cheat or not but thats not reallt the point, the point is that it adds another 30 goals a season. so if you do want a balanced experiment i wouldnt use it. then the reult comes from player ability, not the AI inability to deal with that perticular set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson156 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Is there any chance that somebody could kindly upload the save game again, or if not the save game then maybe the database please. I would also like this on FM08 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by jackyb1989:@knighty99 - now I have to say that you have done very well for your first season but I'm afraid I'm going to have to take issue with your use of the corner tactic. Now as its more than likely to win the BSP by that margin I'm not going to disqualify you or anything extreme, but I am going to courteously ask you to refrain from using the corner tactic from now on. I know that I have not put down an explicit rule about this, as I thought it had been sorted by the last patch - but now I see that it hasn't I am inserting it now. This is a warning to you and to everyone taking part in this challenge - ANYONE USING THE CORNER TACTIC SHALL BE DISQUALIFIED FROM THE CHALLENGE but I offer amnesty now to any current competitors to 'repent' without punishment. @Bloodbore8 - if you want me to make a similar one for Arsenal then if you can provide me with info on which players stay and which go and to where then I will gladly make it. The same goes for anyone who wants one made for any club in particular. @Kassien, hang on in there! It will be worth it in the end and they generally cheer up after a while! I have managed to keep every single major player all the way through to the Premiership so its not impossible! The last post from the first page. Think it's made pretty clear that it's expected for people not to use bug-exploiting tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Just realised I'll be having a European adventure second season for getting to the FA Cup Final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyb1989 Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by Harryseaess:Man Utd - Season 1 - Blue Square Premier Squad Transfers Competitions Blue Square Premier - ]1st FA Cup - Lost 5th round to West Brom Setanta Shield - Winners FA Trophy - Winners Community Shield - Runners Up Top Player Performances Most Goals - Wes Brown - 65 Most Assists - David Beckham - 90 Highest Ave. Rating - David Beckham - 8.21 Player of the Year - David Beckham Season Summary As everyone else has found so far, the league was a walkover with me winning all of my 46 games and never really being threatened in any league match. I was happy with my extended run in the FA Cup beating Liverpool and Portsmouth on the way to getting knocked out by West Brom. I always expected to win the Setanta Shield and the FA Trophy so I wasn't supprised at winning them. Fraizer Campell would have proberly finished as top scorer but he got injured and missed the last 4 months of the season, so he ended up with 48 goals in 41 games. Scholes was immense scoring 56 goals and with 27 assists in 59 games! Beckham impressed with his amazing ammount of assists which totaled to 90, he also scored 39 goals. Aims for next season Win League 2 Reach atleast the quater-fianls of JP Trophy Reach atleast the 4th round in both the FA Cup and League Cup Attempt to sign some regens that could be future stars that will enhance my squad Try and keep hold of all my current players @harryseaess - I'm sorry, but you said you were starting the challenge after I had issued the warning that anyone using the corner tactic shall be disqualified - therefore I have no option but to disqualify your current attempt from this challenge. You can restart and not use the cheat or not, but I will not accept your results. What you choose to do is up to you - but do not argue with my decision - it is final and you were warned! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyb1989 Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by Watson156:Is there any chance that somebody could kindly upload the save game again, or if not the save game then maybe the database please. I would also like this on FM08 Can you not download it from either of the two sites I have put it on - the links are on the first page. If they have expired then I will put it up again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Originally posted by jackyb1989@harryseaess - I'm sorry, but you said you were starting the challenge after I had issued the warning that anyone using the corner tactic shall be disqualified - therefore I have no option but to disqualify your current attempt from this challenge. You can restart and not use the cheat or not, but I will not accept your results. What you choose to do is up to you - but do not argue with my decision - it is final and you were warned! I am sorry, I didn't read the post about the corner exploit, I agree with your decision to disqualify my result and will not argue against it, this is a good challenege and I may try it again sometime without using the exploit . Once again, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson156 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Originally posted by jackyb1989:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Watson156: Is there any chance that somebody could kindly upload the save game again, or if not the save game then maybe the database please. I would also like this on FM08 Can you not download it from either of the two sites I have put it on - the links are on the first page. If they have expired then I will put it up again </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I cant download them off Megaupload or Rapidshare for some reason. Any chance that it could be uploaded to maybe filefront? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefc22 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Great experiment i think! Do you need the latest patch to run this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Right, i'm back and ready to try this challenge again, this time without using the corner exploit! Is anybody else still doing the challenge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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