JoseRR Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Introduction Welcome to the second season of the European Small Club to Big Club From a Big European Nation Challenge. (A bit wordy I know but it does exactly what it says on the tin I suppose ) - this challenge is all about taking one of those bigger nation small clubs to glory. The Aim To take a small club who were previously unplayable in the game from the lower divisions of a nation outlined below, leading them to success in their national top division and ultimately to achieve Champions League glory. The Possible Countries The available countries for this challenge have been deemed “too big” for previous challenges of this type. The ‘Big European Nations’ chosen are: Holland France Spain Italy Portugal Germany League Reset Dates Based on FM08, a list of all the league reset dates (TBC) are shown below. If you have found any changes to this, please let me know. France - 19th June Germany - 19th June Italy - 29th June Portugal - 23rd June Spain - 9th July The Rules -Playing Load a game with all the available divisions within the nation you selected only (only one nation is allowed). A large database should be ticked (although you are free to choose a medium or small database option if you wish). Any official SI patch may be used, but no other edited databases can be used for this challenge. Attribute masking should be enabled, with no additional players from any nation loaded. The extra levels of detail that you can change while in the game are up to you, as they shouldn't make a difference. It is advised that you select ‘Load all Players’ for the country you are in. (This has been proven to provide you with over 50% more players in some countries!) Add yourself as an unemployed manager, the details are not important at all, as you will not use this man to manage your club. Go on holiday until the reset date of your chosen nation, this shouldn't take that long, perhaps about an hour. Saving on the day before this date may give you a better choice of teams by reloading the game then going on holiday for one day, I would strongly recommend trying this. Retire your unemployed manager. Add a new manager, the options are up to you but 'past experience' must be set to the lowest possible which is 'Sunday league footballer'. I understand that choosing different nationalities may have an effect later on, but I trust people will be sensible with this. I would expect people to use their own true nationalities. Then choose to take over any club which has been promoted to the bottom playable league of your nation. You must now manage this club to the national top division title, then progress to be champions of Europe. This doesn’t have to occur in the same season, just with the same club. Should you be sacked at any point during the game, you may either re-start the challenge with a new team and a new save game, or you may wish to continue on your current save game, taking over a club at the end of the season under the same rules as before. There are no restrictions on parent and feeder clubs, and you must be able to scout a player before you buy them - you don’t have to actually scout them, just that the option is available. The use of any external utilities and editors (Such as Genie Scout or FMM) are prohibited. The Rules - Posting Player naming is allowed. (This is a warning for those of you who do not wish to see this) Discussion on tactics is allowed. (This is another warning for those of you who do not wish to see this) Please use screenshots for any aspect of your game you wish to share - this is actively encouraged! When you join the challenge, could you post a screenshot of your manager's profile as soon as you join your club. Progress of your club should be documented using this thread, we want to hear the story of your club all the way through. Please keep us updated, even if you are doing really badly. At the end of every season, could everyone post some kind of season review, including at least a screenshot of a league table and the clubs transfer page. If you give this a title in bold it makes it a bit easier to pick out. How to Post a Screenshot While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard). Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image Save the file as a JPEG Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket or Imageshack Post the direct Url to the image here. I would like to wish everyone taking on this challenge the best of luck on a long and hard journey to footballing success! Let the challenge commence! I hope everything has been covered in the opening post, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask! UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS CURRENTLY A BUG WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO PLAY BEYOND THE FIRST SEASON IN ITALY (SERIE C), IT WILL BE FIXED IN THE NEXT PATCH! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Just to let you know, I haven't got FM09 yet so if anyone could confirm the reset dates when they start up it would be a big help Once I get 09 I will start up my game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 And it's here!! \o/ Just finalising my French game so will be starting tonight. At the moment it's going to be between FC Martigues and Red Star 93 i think. Looking forward to starting this. Hopefully i'll enjoy it as much as Como. I'll confirm the French re-set date when i know it. good luck everyone - i can vouch that this is a great challenge and is up there with Dafuges and Gundos challenges. give it a go, you might just like it!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbster Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I forget the name of it, but can you actually manage in whatever the lowest league on offer in France is, or is it the next lowest? I seem to remember a problem with one of them last year, because it was mainly reserve squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Great to see you back for another go mate Best of luck with whoever you choose! Thaks for the reset date as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I forget the name of it, but can you actually manage in whatever the lowest league on offer in France is, or is it the next lowest? I seem to remember a problem with one of them last year, because it was mainly reserve squads. you can't actually manage in the CFA (i think as i'm not actually quite there yet.) the CFA is almost full of reserve teams but one team is promoted from each of the 4 CFA divisions. I am anticipating that i'll be managing in the 'National' league, the third tier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Great to see you back for another go mate Best of luck with whoever you choose! Thaks for the reset date as well. where else could i go?? i did debate giving dafuges or Gundos challenge another go, but as i had my best ever game on FM on this challenge last year, added to the fact i believe in the thread, and that you got the thread going so quick, where else could i begin??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 That was certainly the idea this time, getting it started quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave safc Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 It would be rude not to give this another go wouldn't it... I've got unfinished business in Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Welcome back Dave ! Hope it goes well mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 And I will be onboard as soon as I receive my copy, No stock available in Wellington, New Zealand until Monday 9am, so I will be heading into work with a 3pm finish and hoping to buy it on the way home and straight into this game, I have some unfinished business, I believe in this thread and I actually enjoy the lower leagues in Bigger Europe more than any other game I have played on FM No Como this year for anyone. But good to see a good following at the beginning lets get this thread pumping guys. I might have search around the web and see if I can't find a full list of the teams we will be playing as Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjaminoo Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I'm tempted to try this in France, I'll post my profile if I do start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Italian Teams Playable for JoseRR's Girone A Girone B Girone C Biellese Renate Montebelluna Casale P.B. Vercelli Secilese Rivarolese Colognese Union Quinto Lavagnese Solbiatese Choggia S. Spezia US Sestese Somma Lottogiaveno Voghera Pordenone Derthona Casteggio Broni Tamai Sarzanese AlzanoCene Trento Sestri Levante Tritium Domegliara Rivoli Caratese Sanivitese Novese Merate Montecchio M. Pro Settimo Turate Belluno Albese Olginatese Eurotezze Cuneo Darfo Boario Sandona Valle d'Aosta Calcio Caravaggese Virtus Verona Savona Fanfulla Jesolo Virtus Entella Verolese Bolzano Cirie Borgomanero Sagittaria Julia Sestrese Girone D Girone E Girone F Albignasego Arrone Atl. Trivento Calenzano AS Sestese Campobasso Carpi Sansepolcro Casoli Castel San Pietro Lucchese Cento Buchi Castellana Mobilieri Ponsacco Chieti Castellarano Deruta Elpidiense Camacchio Lidi Pontedera Fano Crociati Noceto Montevarchi Grottammare Este Pontevecchio Luco Canistro Feralpi Lonato Gavorrano Maceratese Fiorenzuola Rieti Morro d'Oro Mezzolara Forcoli Olympia Agnonese Russi Scandicci Pro Vasto Salo Cecina Real Montecchio Santarcangelo Sangimignano Recanatese Suzzara Sansovino R.C. Angolana Varucchio Fortis Juventus Santegidiese Virtus Castelfranco Orvietana Tolentino Armando Picchi Massese Girone G Girone H Girone I Arzachena Angri Acicatena Astrea Bitonto Adrano Boville Ernica Brindisi Castiglione Budoni Fasano Castrovillari Calangianus ASD Francavilla HinterReggio Castelsardo FC Francavilla Libertas Acate Civita Castellana Gelbison Cilento Messina Civitavecchia Grottaglie Neapolis M. Cynthia Ischia Isolaverde Nissa Ferentino Matera Palazzolo Gaeta Nocerina Puteolana Guidonia M. Pianura Rosarno Lupa Frascati Pomigliano Sapri Monterotondo Sant'Antonio Savoia Morolo Sibilla Flegrea Sircusa Tavolara Sporting Genzano Trapani Villacidrese Turris Vico Equense Viterbese Venafro Viribus Unitis Vittoria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Red Star FC - French National - The Beginning. And so i introduce to you the new manager of Red Star 93. The team looks like this, and this is the squad i have inherited. All of the players were on rolling contracts so that helps me get rid of any deadwood slightly. a lot of the players are pretty good though so contracts have been offered out. i have overhauled the staff somewhat and am pretty happy. For those interested, a brief history of Red Star 93..... Red Star Football Club 93 is a Frenchfootball club, founded by Jules Rimet (yes, the founder of the World Cup...) in Saint-Ouen, Seine-Saint-Denis, Paris in 1897. They played in Ligue 1 at periods of 1932-1933, 1934-1938, 1939-1948 (not included 1940-1944 period due to France occupied by Germany), 1965-1966, 1967-1973 and 1974-1975. The best result was 7th in 1946-47 season. "Red Star" is not a translation; the club's name in French is "Red Star", rather than "Étoile Rouge". Coupe de France Winners (5) : 1921, 1922, 1923, 1928, 1942 Former players include Cyril Domoraud and Tony Cascarino , and Former managers include Roger Lemerre and Philip Troussier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 An obvious big club for Italy then in Messina...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 French Clubs Playable for JoseRR's Groupe A Groupe B FC Monteceau Bourgogne Hyeres FC SR Colmar Sporting Toulon Besancon RC AS Lyon Duchere FC Mulhouse Gaxelec Ajaccio USL Dunkerque Agde AFC Compiegne ASF Andrezieux Vesoul HS FC Villefranche US Raon US Mariginane US Moissy FC Martigues Sainte-Genevieve Sports ES Frejus Olympique Noisy Gap FC Jura Sud Foot CA Bastia AS Saint-Priest Groupe C Groupe D Pau FC ES Viry-Chatillon AS Moulins US Quevilly US Luzenac AS Vitre EDS Montlucon Stade Plabennecois Vendee Lucon Red Star Paris US Albi Villemomble Sports Aurillac FAC FC Rouen Stade Bordelais UJA Alfortville Vendee Fontenay US Orleans FC Bergerac La Vitreenne FC AS Yzeure GSI Pontivy Balma SC RCF Paris US Colomiers Genets Anglet SO Romorantin SO Chatellerault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Thanks for the lists LLR, they make interesting reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 German Clubs Playable in JoseRR's Baden-Wurttemberg Bayern Bremen SpVgg Au/Iller SpVgg Ansbach SG Aumund-Vegesack Bahlinger SC TSV Aindling Bremer SV TSG Balingen 1. FC Bad Kotzting VfL 07 Bremen TSV Crailsheim SpVgg Bayreuth FC Bremerhaven ASV Durlach TSV Buchbach OSC Bremerhaven SGV Freiberg FSV Erlangen-Bruck Brinkumer SV SG Sonnenhof G. VfL Frohnlach Blumenthaler SV FV Illertissen SpVgg Bayern Hof Habenhauser FV Kehler FV FC Ismaning TSV Osterholz-Tenever VfL Kirchheim/Teck FC Memmingen TSV Melchoirshausen VfR Mannheim TSV Rain am Lech TuS Schwachhausen FC Nöttingen FC Scheinfurt 05 Turkspor Bremen Offenburger FV SV Seligenporten SC Vahr-Blockdiek 1. FC Normannia SG. TSG Thannhausen KSV Vatan Spor FC 08 Villingen SpVgg Weiden TSV Wulsdorf FC Astoria Walldorf Wurzburger FV Wurzburger Kickers Hamburg Hessen Neidersachen-West HSV Barmbeck-Uhlenhorst FC Bayern Alzenau SV Bad Rothenfelde ASV Bergedorf 85 KSV Baunatal SV Badvenstedt TSV Buchholz 1. FC Eschborn PreuBen Hameln SV Curslack-Neuengamme FSV 1926 Fernwald Arminia Hannover SC Egenbuttel SV Buchonia Flieden TSV Havelse SV Halstenbek-Rellingen Rot-WeiB Frankfurt Heesseler SV SC Concordia Hamburg Borussia Fulda VfV Borussia Hildesheim SC Condor Hamburg Hunfelder SV SC Langenhagen SC Victoria Hamburg KSV Klein-Karben Germania Leer VfL 93 Hamburg FSC Lohfelden TuS Lingen SC Vorwarts-Wacker Hmbg Germania Ober-Roden SV Meppen SV Lurup Eintracht Stadtallendorf Eintracht Nordhorn Meiendorfer SV Viktoria Urberach VfB Oldenberg NTSV Neindorf OSC Vellmar TuS Pewsum FC Eintract Norderstedt SC Waldgirmes BSV Schwarz-WeiB Rehden FC Voran Ohe TSG Worsdorf Uhlenhorster SC Paloma RSV Wurges Neidersachsen-Ost Nordost-Nord Nordost-Sud FT Braunschweig FSV Bentwisch VfB Auerbach SV Blau-WeiB Bornreihe Berlin AK 07 Budissa Bautzen TuS Celle FC Berliner FC Dynamo SC Borea Dresden SV Drochtersen-Assel BFC Preussen FC Eilenburg MTV Gifhorn Tennis Borussia Berlin 1. FC Gera 03 Goslarer SC 08 Brandenbrger SC Sud 05 Germania Halberstadt SCW Gottingen SV Flakensee-Finkenkrug 1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig FC Hansa Luneburg Greifswalder SV SSV Markrenstadt TuS Heeslingen Torgelower SV Greif ZFC Meiselwitz VfL Maschen Lichterfelder FC VfB PoBneck FC Eintrach Northeim Ludwigsfelder FC FC Grun-WeiB Wolfen BSV Olper TSG Neustreitz FSV Zwickau VSK Osterholz-Scharmbeck FSV Optik Rathenow TSV Ottersberg Reinickendorfer Fusche Rotenburger SV Spandauer SV TuS Guldenstern Stade Germania Schoneiche SSV Vorsfelde Nordrhein-Westfalen Schleswig-Holstein Sudwest Bonner SC TSV Altennholz SG Betzdorf Germania Dattenfeld FT Elder Budelsdorf SG Bad Brisig Dalbrucker SC Eckenforder SV Rot-Weiss Hasborn-Dautweiler Schwarz-Weiss Essen SpVgg Flensburg 08 SC Hauenstein FC Gutersloh Heider SV FC Homburg Hammer SpVg Heikendorfer SV SC Idar-Oberstein SC Westfalia Herne SV Henstedt-Rhen Sportfreunde Kollerbach VfB Huls VfR Horst TuS Mayen SC Fortuna Koln Husumer SV TuS Machtersheim SF Oestrich Iserlohn Itzhoer SV SV Mettlach SV Schermbeck SC Comet Kiel Borussia Neunkirchen Sportfreunde Siegen FC Killa Kiel SV Niederauerbach SSVg Velbert TSV Kropp FK Pirmasens SG Wattenscheid 09 VfR Neumunster SV Rossbach NTSV Strand 08 1. FC Saarbrucken SV Schlesqig 06 SV Alemannia Waldalgesheim SpVgg EGC Wirges Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Thanks for the lists LLR, they make interesting reading. No problem, Its interesting to see some of the clubs and it makes me feel part of the challenge before I get the game on Monday ROFL I just checked out Spain and in the Tercera División one level below the playable Division 2 B, there are 360 clubs in 18 divisions, I will write this up but just a warning it is going to be a rather long list haha. And I thought the german one was bad with 189 teams and Italy with 166 teams. There are a huge number of playable teams in this Challenge so a large variety for you all to choose from, I am tempted by one of the teams in Italy with names of bigger clubs included, so Football teams like Virtus Verona or Fortis Juventus, then again maybe building a rivalry would be cool the likes of ASD Francavilla or FC Francavilla if they both come up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 It's interesting to see teams like Messina in the lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 It's interesting to see teams like Messina in the lower leagues. I think that was the biggest surprise when I was searching through the Serie D, so I had to check and make sure, now reading an Italian page about Serie D was not so easy, but their name was mentioned, I was sorta shocked, can't find out why they are down there though. Can't remember them in Serie C2 last season either... Well that is why, haha after a little more searching I found this... Football Club Messina Peloro are an Italian football club based in Messina, Sicily originally founded in 1900. The club has spent most of its history in the lower Italian football leagues. They last competed in Serie B in 2007–08, this following three consecutive seasons in Serie A. On July 2008 Messina were excluded from professional football due to financial issues, being later registered into amateur Serie D, where they are currently playing. So they had financial trouble and got made into amateurs, gutted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Spanish Clubs Playable in JoseRR's Grupo 1 Grupo 2 Grupo 3 Bouzas Siero Albericia Céltiga Caudal Atl. Deva Gran Peña Astur Barreda Alondras Oviedo Bezana Coruxo Condal Cayón Arousa Mosconia Castro Villalonga Ceares Escobedo Portonovo Lealtad Gimn. Torrelavega Ourense Candás Guarnizo Órdenes Ribadesella Laredo Compostela Llanes Noja Negreira Cudillero Rayo Cantabria Cerceda Tuilla Reocín Verín Langreo Ribamontán Lalín Universidad Oviedo Santoña Montañeros Gijón Industrial Siete Villas Santa Comba Covadonga Solares Somozas Navarro Tropezón Narón Avilés Industrial Velarde Nalón Vimenor Grupo 4 Grupo 5 Grupo 6 Amorebieta Amposta Burjassot Amurrio Balaguer Catarroja Arenas de Getxo Banyoles Crevillente Baskonia Blanes Eldense Beasain Cassà Gandía Durango Cornellà Jove Español Elgoibar Europa J.B. Cristo Gernika L'Hospitalet La Nucía Lagun Onak Manlleu Novelda Laudio Mataró Onda Leioa Palamós Pego Ordizia P. Mafumet Puçol Portugalete Prat Ribarroja San Ignacio Premià Torrevieja Santurtzi Rapitenca Utiel Zalla Reus Deportiu Villajoyosa Zamudio Santboià Zarautz Vilanova Vilajuïga Grupo 7 Grupo 8 Grupo 9 Alcalá Aguilar Adra Alcobendas Almazán Alhaurino Atl. Pinto Ávila A. Armilla Ciempozuelos Arandina Baza C. Ofigevi Astorga C. Vícar C. Villalba Becerril C. de Níjar Fuenlabrada Bembibre Granada Atl. Las Rozas Burgos Granada 74 Móstoles Cebrereña Loja Parla G. Segoviana Mengíbar Pegaso Huracán Z Motril P. Bonita Íscar Ronda R. Mahadahonda La Granja Santa Fé S. Ana Mirandés Unión Estepona S.S. Reyes Norma S.L. Vélez Vallecas Palencia Vera Salmantino Santa Marta Grupo 10 Grupo 11 Grupo 12 Alcalá Alaior Castillo Antoniano Alcudia Gáldar Atl. Sanluqueño Andratx Huracán Ayamonte Arenal Granadilla Cartaya Artà Laguna Chiclana Atl. Ciudadella Las Zocas Coria Binissalem Los Llanos Dos Hermanas Cala D´Or Marino Jerez Industrial Campos Mensajero Mairena Constancia Orientación Marítima Los Barrios Ferriolense Realejos Los Palacios Manacor Tegueste Pozoblanco Mercadal Teguise Puerto Real Montuïri Tenisca San Roque Poblense Tijarafe Villanueva Santanyí Unión Antigua Soledad Victoria Sporting Mahonés Grupo 13 Grupo 14 Grupo 15 Atl. Pulpileño CD Badajoz Aluvión Bala Azul UD Badajoz Aoiz Beniel Cacereño Ardoi Calasparra Cerro Reyes Chantrea Caravaca Ciudad Plasencia Cirbonero Cieza Díter Zafra Egüés Ciudad de Lorca Don Benito Huarte Jumilla Imperio Idoya La Unión Jerez Iruña Lumbreras La Estrella Izarra Mazarrón Miajadas Lagunak Moratalla Moralo Lourdes Muleño Olivenza Mendi Murcia Dptva. Plasencia Murchante Pinatar Sanvicenteño Mutilvera Plus Ultra Santa Marta Oberena Pozo Estrecho Sporting Villanueva Peña Azagresa Santomera Valdelacalzada Peña Sport Yeclano Valdivia River Ega Villanovense San Juan Tudelano Grupo 16 Grupo 17 Grupo 18 AF Calahorra Alcañiz Alcázar Agoncillo Andorra Almansa Alberite Barbastro Azuqueca Anguiano Binéfar Daimiel Arnedo Brea Hellín Berceo Atl. Calatayud Illescas Calahorra Cuarte Ind. La Roda Calasancio Ebro Manchego Cenicero Ejea Marchamalo Fundación Logroñés Fraga Piedrabuena Haro Giner Torrero Socuéllamos CD Logroñés La Muela Talavera Náxara Monzón Tarazona Oyonesa Sabiñánigo Toledo River Ebro San Lorenzo Tomelloso San Marcial Sariñena Torpedo 66 Tedeón Teruel U. Criptanense Villegas Utebo Villarrobledo Varea Villanueva Yagüe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Portugese Clubs Playable in JoseRR's Serie A Serie B Serie C F.C. Amares Aliados F.C. de Lordelo Académico de Viseu F.C. G.D. Bragança Amarante F.C. F.C. Arouca Brito S.C. F.C. Famalicão S.C. Dragões Sandinenses G.D. Joane F.C. Maia G.C. Figueirense C.A. Macedo de C U. Nogueirense F.C. G.D. Milheiroense F.C. Marinhas C.F. Oliveira do Douro F.C. Oliveira do Hospital S.C. Mirandela A.D. Oliveirense A.D. Sanjoanense Mondinense F.C. Padroense S.C. São João de Ver Morais F.C. U.S.C. Paredes G.D.R.C. Social de Lamas G.D. Prado F.C. Pedras Rubras U.D. Tocha S.C. Valenciano Rebordosa A.C. C.D. Tondela S.C. Vianense A.D. São Pedro da Cova C.F. União de Lamas Vidago F.C. G.D. Serzedelo A.D. Valecambrense Vieira S.C. G.D. Torre de Moncorvo A.D. Valonguense Serie D Serie E G.C. Alcobaça S.U. 1º de Dezembro U.D. Caranguejeira G.D. Alcochetense U.D. Gândara S.C.E. Bombarralense C.D. Lousanense A.C. Cacém A.C. Marinhense C.S.D. Câmara de Lobos C.A. Mirandense O Elvas C.A.D. G.D.R. Monsanto S.C. Estrela A.D. Penamacorense Estrela F.C. de Vendas Novas S.C. Pombal A.D. Fazendense A.D. Portomosense G.D. Igreja Nova U.D. Serra C. Oriental de Lisboa Sertanense F.C. U.D. Santana G.D. Sourense S.U. Sintrense F.C.E. Unhais da Serra S.L. Cartaxo Serie F Serie Azores S.C.M. Aljustrelense S.C. Angrense S.R. Almancilense C. Boavista de São Mateus Amora F.C. Capelense S.C. F.C. Barreirense Fayal S.C. G.D. Beira-Mar J.D. Lajense C.D. Cova da Piedade S.C. Marítimo J.S. Campinense C.U. Micaelense G.D. Fabril S.C. Praiense F.C. Ferreiras C.D. Rabo de Peixe Imortal D.C. Santiago F.C. Lusitano G.C. G.U.S. Montemor C.D.R. Quarteirense Silves F.C. So thats now all bar Holland, which I can't remember how it works, but I will try and find a team list and compile it if I can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Doesn't Holland have a closed-league system? I might have a go at this when I get WWSM. So many challenges to do... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Doesn't Holland have a closed-league system? I might have a go at this when I get WWSM. So many challenges to do... Well I just had a read of the Holland League system and it appears that they have had a closed League System, but as of 2008/09 they are moving to promotion/relegation between the Eerste Divisie and the Hoofdklasse, although the Dutch FA is looking at adding a Topklasse inbetween these two as a Semi-Professional League instead of having a direct step-up, but I think from what I understand this Promotion/Relegation should be in place in FM09, so I shall make a list of the Hoofdklasse teams and hopefully they are playable after a season on holiday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well I just had a read of the Holland League system and it appears that they have had a closed League System, but as of 2008/09 they are moving to promotion/relegation between the Eerste Divisie and the Hoofdklasse, although the Dutch FA is looking at adding a Topklasse inbetween these two as a Semi-Professional League instead of having a direct step-up, but I think from what I understand this Promotion/Relegation should be in place in FM09, so I shall make a list of the Hoofdklasse teams and hopefully they are playable after a season on holiday. Ya I read that on wiki the other day...can't wait to play in Holland with promotion/relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Dutch Clubs Playable in JoseRR's Saturday A Saturday B Saturday C ARC Ajax * Be Quick '28 ASWH Bennekom Berkum Barendrecht DOVO Excelsior '31 Capelle Geinoord Flevo Boys DOTO GVVV Genemuiden Excelsior Maassluis Hoek Go Ahead Kampen Heerjansdam Jodan Boys Harkemase Boys Katwijk Kozakken Boys HHC Hardenberg Lisse SDC Putten Nunspeet Noordwijk Spakenburg ONS Sneek Quick Boys Sparta Nijkerk Oranje Nassau Rijnsburgse Boys RKAV Volendam PKC '83 Scheveningen IJsselmeervogels Staphorst Ter Leede Zwaluwen '30 WHC Sunday A Sunday B Sunday C ADO '20 Baronie Achilles '29 AFC DESK Alcides Argon Deurne Babberich DWV Dijkse Boys De Bataven Elinkwijk EVV Be Quick 1887 Haaglandia JVC Cuijk Germania HBS Gemert HSC '21 Hilversum Longa Joure Hollandia Meerssen Lienden Omniworld OJC Rosmalen Quick '20 Türkiyemspor Papendrecht Sneek Wit Zwart VUC Schijndel De Treffers VVSB UNA WKE Westlandia Venray WSV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Isn't Omniworld already playable in the Eerste Divisie? I remember I had them as a feeder club before... (though irl they're in the relegation zone ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Damn you're right that means that the 08/09 list doesn't seem to match up haha...Gutted I may have to try and figure it out from some more sites... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well interestingly after an investigation it turns out Omniworld in the lower League is "FC Omniworld Amateurs" a seperate club in FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Are all the Dutch clubs playable in this challenge amateur teams? (If yes, would they turn semi-pro when they're promoted to the Eerste Divisie?) The promotion/relegation system in Holland has sparked my interest in possibly doing this challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Are all the Dutch clubs playable in this challenge amateur teams? (If yes, would they turn semi-pro when they're promoted to the Eerste Divisie?)The promotion/relegation system in Holland has sparked my interest in possibly doing this challenge. Well it looks like they will be, but once I get the game in bout 22 hours by the time I get home from work I will be running a game through a year on each League to make sure of the dates etc. Holland being the big one to check, if it doesn't come after the first season I may run through a second cause it does mention something about promotion in 2009/10 so that would be two years into the game, we will see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiRiM-InSaNe Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Hmmmm. This challenge souns like my cup of team. This is my list of things to do in FM this time around Complete Dafuges challenge Complete Gundo's challenge Complete JoseRR's challenge Complete the San Marino double challenge. So much to do so little time. I think I will be going to Italy where the work permit issues will make this a lot tougher than it already is. I really do love the lower leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvnRooRon84 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The new Era of Champions - FC Barcelona "B" Faz Rodrigo has taken over the helm from Josep Guardiola, who was in-charge of FC Barcelona "B" for a little over a year now. With the current FC Barcelona "B" squad looking very strong to challenge for the Segunda División B Grupo III trophy, Head Coach Faz will be looking to further strengthen the squad. It is still unknown whether the Head Coach has what it takes to bring FC Barcelona "B" to the dizzy heights of their parent club FC Barcelona which is currently in the La Liga; however a latest interview with the man himself, shows one extremely confident young manager: "Well, in order to succeed, our desire for success has to be greater then our fear of failure; and we do have an extremely desirable team" - Faz Rodrigo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjaminoo Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Ok, so I've holidayed in France, and FC Rouen ended up getting promoted to the National. Here I am - Profile Personal Football Club Rouen 1899: A Background Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvnRooRon84 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well, I was looking around at the Spanish Division B, also known as the Segunda Division B, leagues and deciding which team to choose for this challenge. (I know I have chosen Barcelona B above; but I read somewhere in Wiki that a reserve team cannot be in the same league as the 1st team, or something like that). Anyway, I did some searching for the teams that were newly promoted from the Tercera Division, to the Segunda Division B and these following teams were the newly promoted after the Play-offs were played: (Posted in the following format) Team Name (may vary in FM) - Value of Club, Training Facility Standard, Youth Facility Standard Segunda División B1: Ciudad Santiago - 925K, fairly basic training fac, basic youth fac + youth academy Racing Santander B - 3.2M, top training fac, average youth fac + Youth academy Segunda División B2: Las Palmas B - 3.8m, good training fac, good youth fac sangonera - 300K, basic training fac, minimal youth fac Real Murcia B - 350K, average training fac, excellent youth fac + youth academy Ciudad Lorquí - 210k, basic training fac, minimimal youth fac CDA Navalcarnero - 425K, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac Segunda División B3: UD Alzira - 350k, fairly basic training fac, minimal youth fac UE Sant Andreu - 3M, good training fac, adequate youth fac Valencia Mestalla - 5.5m, good training fac, good youth fac Atlético Baleares - 1.9M, basic training fac, minimal youth fac PD Santa Eulalia - 220k, average training fac, minimal youth fac Segunda División B4: CD San Fernando - 625K, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac CD Roquetas - 300k, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac Antequera CF - 350K, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac Balompédica Linense - 975k, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac Sporting de Gijón - 3.9M, top training fac, average youth fac + youth Academy This is to help those who wish to choose spain as their choice for this challenge. Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Welcome RVN and Benjaminoo. It's good to see a wider spread of leagues and teams this year, and Holland certainly could be an exciting prospect! Best of luck to everyone involved so far Thanks also to all the work LLR has been putting into the thread! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Ok, so I've holidayed in France, and FC Rouen ended up getting promoted to the National.Here I am - Profile Personal Football Club Rouen 1899: A Background good luck Benjaminoo. I have a 'rival' in France now!! ha ha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjaminoo Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 good luck Benjaminoo. I have a 'rival' in France now!! ha ha. Actually, I've signed a few players from Red Star Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Actually, I've signed a few players from Red Star who have you signed? am still trawling the free transfers looking for players. Got Auxerre as a parent lcub and got a good young CB from them. working on a couple of others too. think it's going to be tougher in France with Red Star than it was with Como... Not that that's a bad thing!! played a coupleof home friendlies against National teams, losing 2-1 and a 0-0 draw. Trying to fine tune my formation. debating a 4-4-1-1 but may revert back to 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjaminoo Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I signed Jamel Zahiri and Luc Ekwalla from Red Star. Zahiri dosen't start but Ekwalla does. I got PSG as a parent club They gave me 5 players who are pretty good, but not showing it atm.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvnRooRon84 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 My FC Barcelona B already has a good base of players! I'm quite surprised to see so many Liga Adelante (2nd League) quality of players in the squad! Edit: I just found out a major disadvantage..Any player I sign for will stay in the main Barcelona team instead of coming to the B Team! :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 That could be a bit of a problem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1994 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 has any one got a save game in italy they could upload as my pc is taking hours been waiting an hour and a half and im only in november. thanx max Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvnRooRon84 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 That could be a bit of a problem! Very much of a problem! I've signed 2 quality keepers but they are both being 'pulled' to the main team! But I think I may have found a solution to it; seems that when offering them a contract, I specified a 'Key Player' status for them; thus when they have agreed to sign, they'll automatically go to the first team. Not sure if this is a bug or it is supposed to happen that way.. Nevertheless, shall try to make the best of what I have then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRR Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 I guess it would be part of the clubs link, seeing as the 'B' team really are the same club! Best of luck trying under even harder circumstances than normal mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjaminoo Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm pretty sure the 'B' team can't get promoted to the same league as their first team side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlipscombe Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm pretty sure the 'B' team can't get promoted to the same league as their first team side? they can'tdo... might make completing the challenge a little tricky!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Won't it be a bit pointless to take over a 'B' team knowing that you can't guide them to Champions League glory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvnRooRon84 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 That could be a bit of a problem! I'm pretty sure the 'B' team can't get promoted to the same league as their first team side? Oh man, so I guess I can never complete the challenge! But anyway, I'll just try to get them up and see what will happen. It'll be interesting to see the messages, news conference and etc when the time comes FC Barcelona "B" is supposed to get promoted to La Liga! (if that happens..heh) Some quick updates.. FC Barcelona "B" has just completed their friendly matches and are now making the final preparations for the opening match against Gava. FC Barcelona "B" Friendlies Results Current Squad Current Finances Not much changes here Board Confidence Nothing extraordinary here either; hopefully, the upcoming opening matches will make the green bar longer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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