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I recently stumbled across a christmas present of mine from last year. A football book it was. An encyclopedia of football to be precise. So i put two and two together and thought i would create a new database with all these golden oldies in it! Now I realise the FM is due out very soon so I'm wondering whether or not this is a worthwhile idea. So is there anybody out there willing to stick with FM08 and give it a go if I make it, or should i stop before i even begin?

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im thinkin of leavin it until the 09 version comes out. im guna list the ppl that im guna put into the game below so if anyone as any ideas of who i've left out they can let me know. bearing in mind i won't be putting prominent figures of the game back into their heyday, e.g. roy keane. in the same way i wont be reducing the age of the retiring stars, e.g. ronaldo, luis figo. its basically the by-gone stars who havent made it big in management. more or less :)

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Argentina

Ardiles, Osvaldo

Artime, Luis

Batistuta, Gabriel

Caniggia, Claudio

Carrizo, Amadeo

Di Stefano, Alfredo

Ferreyra, Bernabe

Goycochea, Sergio Javier

Kempes, Mario Alberto

Labruna, Angel Amadeo

Maradona, Diego

Marzolini, Silvio

Monti, Luisito

Moreno, Juan Manuel

Orsi, Raimundo

Passarella, Daniel

Pedernera, Adolfo

Rattin, Antonion Ubaldo

Redondo, Fernando

Simeone, Diego Pablo

Sivori, Omar Enrique

Valdano, Jorge

Austria

Binder, Franz “Bimbo”

Hanappi, Gerhard

Happel, Ernst

Krankl, Johannes “Hans”

Ocwirk, Ernst

Polster, Anton “Toni”

Sindelar, Matthias

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Belgium

Braine, Raymond

Ceulemans, Jan

Coppens, Henri

Gerets, Eric

Pfaff, Jean-Marie

Scirea, Gaetano

Van Himst, Paul

Bosnia

Susic, Safet

Brazil

Ademir

Amarildo

Bebeto

Cafu

Careca

Didi

Domingos

Dunga

Friedenreich, Arthur

Garrincha

Jairzinho

Leonidas da Silva

Pele

Rivaldo

Rivelino, Roberto

Romario

Santos, Djalma

Santos, Nilton

Taffarel

Tostao

Vava

Zico

Bulgaria

Asparoukhov, Georgi

Bonev, Hristo

Kolev, Ivan

Stoichkov, Hristo

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Cameroon

Milla, Roger

Nkono, Thomas

Chile

Sanchez, Leonel

Croatia

Boban, Zvonimir

Suker, Davor

Colombia

Valderrama, Carlos

Cyprus

Kaiafas, Sotiris

Czech Republic

Kubala, Ladislav

Masopust, Josef

Nedved, Pavel

Nehoda, Zdenek

Nejedly, Oldrich

Ondrus, Anton

Panenka, Antonin

Planicka, Frantisek

Pluskal, Svatopluk

Popluhar, Jan

Schroiff, Viliam

Skuhravy, Tomas

Viktor, Ivo

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Ecuador

Hurtado, Ivan

England

Ball, Alan

Banks, Gordon

Barnes, John

Bloomer, Steve

Charlton, Bobby

Clemence, Ray

Dean, Bill “Dixie”

Edwards, Duncan

Finney, Tom

Francis, Trevor

Gascoigne, Paul

Greaves, Jimmy

Hapgood, Eddie

Haynes, Johnny

Hoddle, Glenn

Hurest, Geoff

Keegan, Kevin

Lawton, Tommy

Le Tissier, Matt

Lineker, Gary

Matthews, Stanley

Mercer, Joe

Meredith, Billy

Moore, Bobby

Mortensen, Stan

Robson, Bryan

Seaman, David

Shearer, Alan

Sheringham, Edward “Teddy”

Shilton, Peter

Stiles, Nobby

Swift, Frank

Waddle, Chris

Wright, Billy

Wright, Ian

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France

Amoros, Manuel

Bossis, Maxime

Cantona, Eric

Desailly, Marcel

Djorkaeff, Youri

Fontaine, Just

Giresse, Alain

Jonquet, Robert

Kopa, Raymond

Lizarazu, Bixente

Papin, Jean-Pierre

Petit, Emmanuel

Piantoni, Roger

Platini, Michel

Tigana, Jean Amadou

Tresor, Marius

Zidane, Zinedine

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Germany

Beckenbauer, Franz

Bonhof, Rainer

Brehme, Andreas

Breitner, Paul

Forster, Karlheinz

Haller, Helmut

Hoeness, Uli

Kahn, Oliver

Klinsmann, Jurgen

Kohler, Jurgen

Littbarski, Pierre

Maier, Josef “Sepp”

Matthaus, Lothar

Muller, Gerd

Muller, Hans Peter “Hansi”

Netzer, Gunter

Overath, Wolfgang

Rahn, Helmut

Rummenigge, Karl-Heinz

Sammer, Matthias

Schnellinger, Karl-Heinz

Schuster, Bernd

Seeler, Uwe

Sparwasser, Jurgen

Stielike, Uli

Vogts, Hans-Hubert “Berti”

Voller, Rudi

Walter, Fritz

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Holland

Bergkamp, Dennis

Blind, Danny

Cruyff, Johan

Davids, Edgar

Haan, Arend “Arie”

Gullit, Ruud

Koeman, Ronald

Krol, Ruud “Rudi”

Moulijn, Coen

Neeskens, Johan

Overmars, Marc

Rensenbrink, Rob

Rijkaard, Frank

Van Basten, Marco

Van Hanegem, Wilhelmus “Wim”

Hungary

Albert, Florian

Bene, Ferenc

Bozsik, Jozsef

Czibor, Zoltan

Hidegkuti, Nandor

Kocsis, Sandor

Puskas, Ferenc

Sarosi, Gyorgy

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Ireland

Brady, Liam

Carey, Johnny

Giles, Johnny

Irwin, Denis

McGrath, Paul

Italy

Allemandi, Luigi

Altafini, Jose

Altobelli, Alessandro

Amoruso, Lorenzo

Anastasi, Pietro

Antognoni, Giancarlo

Baggio, Roberto

Baresi, Franco

Bergomi, Giuseppe

Bettega, Roberto

Boninsegna, Roberto

Boniperti, Giampiero

Cabrini, Antonio

Combi, Gianpiero

Conti, Bruno

Costacurta, Alessandro

Donadoni, Roberto

Facchetti, Giacinto

Ferrara, Ciro

Ferrari, Giovanni

Gentile, Claudio

Mazzola, Alessandro “Sandro”

Mazzola, Valentino

Meazza, Giuseppe

Piola, Silvio

Riva, Luigi

Rivera, Gianni

Rossi, Paolo

Schillaci, Salvatore “Toto”

Tardelli, Marco

Tassotti, Mauro

Vialli, Gianluca

Zoff, Dino

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Paraguay

Chilavert, Jose Luis

Erico, Arsenio

Peru

Chumpitaz, Hector

Cubillas, Teofilo

Poland

Boniek, Zbigniew

Deyna, Kazimierz

Lato, Grzegorz

Lubanski, Wlodzimierz

Pol, Ernst

Wilimowski, Ernst

Zmuda, Wladyslaw

Portugal

Aguas, Jose

Augusto

Coluna, Mario Esteves

Da Costa, Alberto

Eusebio

Futre, Paulo

Germano

Vitor Baia

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Romania

Belodedici, Miodrag

Camataru, Rodion

Georgescu, Dudu

Hagi, Gheorghe

Popescu, Gheorghe “Gica”

Russia

Belanov, Igor

Blokhin, Oleg

Chislenko, Igor

Dassayev, Rinat

Ivanov, Valentin

Kanchelskis, Andrei

Metreveli, Slava

Netto, Igor

Onopko, Viktor

Simonian, Nikita

Voronin, Valery

Yashin, Lev

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Scotland

Baxter, Jim

Bremner, Billy

Dalglish, Kenny

Gemmell, Tommy

Greig, John

Henderson, Willie

James, Alex

Johnstone, Jimmy

Law, Denis

Liddell, Billy

McCoist, Ally

McNeill, Billy

McStay, Paul

Morton, Alan

Souness, Graeme

Serbia

Dzajic, Dragan

Mijatovic, Predrag

Milutinovic, Milos

Savicevic, Dejan

Sekularac, Dragoslav

Stojkovic, Dragan

Zebec, Branko

South Korea

Bum Kun Cha

Myung Bo Hong

Spain

Amancio

Butragueno, Emilio

Camacho, Jose Antonio

Del Sol, Luis

Gento, Francisco

Hierro, Fernando Ruiz

Juanito

Michel

Nadal, Miguel Angel

Pirri

Ramallets, Antonion Simon

Rial, Jose Hector

Santillana

Suarez, Luis

Zubizarreta, Andoni

Sweden

Bergmark, Orvar

Gren, Gunnar

Hamrin, Kurt

Kindvall, Ove

Liedholm, Nils

Nordahl, Gunnar

Nordqvist, Bjorn

Ravelli, Thomas

Simonsson, Agne

Switzerland

Abegglen, Andre “Trello”

Chapuisat, Stephane

Minelli, Severino

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Ok, firstly, Fernando Redondo of Argentina, one of the greatest midfield players ever is missing. Kubala is Hungarian or Spanish, not Czech, and Dejan Savicevic is Serbian, not Croatian. If thery're listed as those nationalities in your book then you've been sold a forgery.

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Kubala is Hungarian or Spanish, not Czech, and Dejan Savicevic is Serbian, not Croatian. If thery're listed as those nationalities in your book then you've been sold a forgery.

Kubala was born in Hungary, but did play for the Czechoslovak national team briefly, before going on to play for both Hungary and Spain. So I guess he could go down as any of them.

Savicevic is actually Montenegrin, and played international football for the now defunct Yugoslavia. So again, a choice between Montenegro and the new Serbia.

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Kubala was born in Hungary, but did play for the Czechoslovak national team briefly, before going on to play for both Hungary and Spain. So I guess he could go down as any of them.

Savicevic is actually Montenegrin, and played international football for the now defunct Yugoslavia. So again, a choice between Montenegro and the new Serbia.

I confess I didn't know Kubala had played for Czechoslovakia. But Di Stefano played briefly for Colombia when they were disaffiliated from FIFA. I knew Savecevic played for Yugoslavia, but I thought he was Serbian, but if he was born in Monetnegro then so be it.

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Yeah there are few in that selection of players who have indeed played for two countries, in some case even three! With regard to that, I will set the corresponding nations to that person and allow them the choice of which country to play for in the game.

For instance, Jose Altafini played for Brazil in the 1958 World Cup and was transferred directly after that tournament to AC Milan. He then played for Italy in the 1962 World Cup! So I won't set his nationality as definite but let him choose in the game.l

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Ecuador

Hurtado, Ivan

England

Ball, Alan

Banks, Gordon

Barnes, John

Bloomer, Steve

Charlton, Bobby

Clemence, Ray

Dean, Bill “Dixie”

Edwards, Duncan

Finney, Tom

Francis, Trevor

Gascoigne, Paul

Greaves, Jimmy

Hapgood, Eddie

Haynes, Johnny

Hoddle, Glenn

Hurest, Geoff

Keegan, Kevin

Lawton, Tommy

Lineker, Gary

Matthews, Stanley

Mercer, Joe

Meredith, Billy

Moore, Bobby

Mortensen, Stan

Robson, Bryan

Seaman, David

Shearer, Alan

Sheringham, Edward “Teddy”

Shilton, Peter

Swift, Frank

Waddle, Chris

Wright, Billy

Excuse me. It looks like you havent put Matt Le Tissier in that that list of yours. How can you forget him?!

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Excuse me. It looks like you havent put Matt Le Tissier in that that list of yours. How can you forget him?!

My bad! But that's why I've put my list on display before I create the database. I want to know who people think I have missed.

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i have a good polish player, his name is Darius Dzeikanowski.

Dariusz Dziekanowski. And he was not so good ;)

Tethys: The name of Wilimowski from Poland is Ernest, not Ernst. I suggest also:

- Smolarek, Wlodzimierz

- Mlynarczyk, Jozef

- Kasperczak, Henryk

- Szarmach, Andrzej

- Tomaszewski, Jan

- Gadocha, Robert

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Boban, Zvonimir Croatian

Dzajic, Dragan SERBIAN

Mijatovic, Predrag SERBIAN

Milutinovic, Milos SERBIAN

Savicevic, Dejan MONTENIGRIAN

Sekularac, Dragoslav SERBIAN

Stojkovic, Dragan SERBIAN

Suker, Davor CROATIAN

Susic, Safet BOSNIAN

Zebec, Branislav “Branko” Unsure but i think Serbian

PLEASE FIX THIS IMMEDIATLY

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It isn't Hurest, it's Hurst. There's no E.

Just a simple typo, i'm aware of how the man's name should be spelled. But good on you for being eagle-eyed :thup:

As for Roy Keane; Being Irish myself he would be the first person in the database but it is my opinion that those players who are involved in the game as managers shouldn't be recreated. Thus the likes of Gianfranco Zola wouldn't be involved either.

However, those people who are considered backroom staff, e.g. Franco Baresi as scout of Milan, will be involved. Subsequently, Mr Baresi will be transformed into a teenager again with attributes updated accordingly, and AC Milan will find themselves short of one scout. :D

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Uruguay

Andrade, Jose Leandro

Francescoli, Enzo

Nasazzi, Jose

Rocha, Pedro

Santamaria, Jose Emilio

Scarone, Hector

Schieffino, Juan Alberto

Spencer, Pedro Alberto

Varela, Odbulio

You're missing quite a few players from a Country with 2 world cups and 2 fourth places, besides being with Argentina the most time winner of the American Cup with 14 (6 more than Brazil!), if you like I could help you with it.

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You're missing quite a few players from a Country with 2 world cups and 2 fourth places, besides being with Argentina the most time winner of the American Cup with 14 (6 more than Brazil!), if you like I could help you with it.

I might take you up on that offer Stefanos. At the minute I'm just testing with FM2008's database. I plan to release this legends database on FM 2009. If anyone else feels they have a good knowledge of any particular country and would like to input to this database, feel free to drop me a line.

Cheers.

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ok check these out...

Ray Clemence (ENG)

Phil Neal (ENG)

Joey Jones (WAL)

Jan Molby (ENG)

Allan Hansen (SCO)

Ian Callaghan (ENG)

John Toshack (WAL)

Jimmy Case (ENG)

John Barnes (ENG)

Kevin Keegan (ENG)

Ian Rush (WAL)

Bruce Grobbelaar (ZIM)

Emlyn Hughes (WAL)

Steve Heieghway (ENG)

Graeme Souness (SCO)

SKenny Dalglish (SCO)

Alex Stpney (ENG)

Shay Brennan (ENG)

Tony Dunne (IRL)

Pat Crerand (ENG)

Bill Foulkes (ENG)

Nobby Stiles (ENG)

Brian Kidd (ENG)

Bobby Charlton (ENG)

David Sadler (ENG)

Geroge Best (NIR)

Dennis Law (ENG)

Jimmy Rimmer (ENG)

John Fitzpatrick (SCO)

Willie Morgan (SCO)

Carlo Sartori (ITA)

John Aston (ENG)

Peter Schmeichel (DEN)

Steve Bruce (ENG)

Gary Pallister (ENG)

Roy Keane (IRL)

Paul Ince (ENG)

Eric Cantona (FRA)

Mark Hughes (WAL)

Mark Bosnich (AUS)

Andrei Kanchelskis (RUS)

Gordon Banks (ENG)

George Cohen (ENG)

Ramon Wilson (ENG)

Jack Charlton (ENG)

Martin Peters (ENG)

Jimmy Greaves (ENG)

Geoff Hurst (ENG)

Roger Hunt (ENG)

Peter Bonetti (ENG)

Jimmy Armfield (ENG)

Ian Callaghan (ENG)

Duncan Edwards (ENG)

Peter Shilton (ENG)

Kenny Burns (ENG)

Viv Anderson (ENG)

Larry Lloyd (ENG)

Frank Clark (ENG)

Trevor Francis (ENG)

John McGovern (ENG)

Ian Bowyer (ENG)

Garry Birtles (ENG)

Anthony Woodcock (ENG)

John Robertson (ENG)

Chris Woods (ENG)

Gary Mills (ENG)

Francis Gray (ENG)

John O'Hare (ENG)

David Needham (ENG)

Alan Sharer (ENG)

Matthew Le Tissier (ENG)

George Weah (LIB)

David Harvey (ENG)

Paul Reaney (ENG)

Gordon McQueen (ENG)

Norman Hunter (ENG)

Terry Cooper (ENG)

Paul Madeley (ENG)

Johnny Giles (ENG)

Billy Bremner (ENG)

Eddie Gray (ENG)

Allan Clarke (ENG)

Joe Jordan (ENG)

Gareth Sprake (ENG)

Jack Charlton (ENG)

Trevor Cherry (ENG)

Jimmy Greenhoff (ENG)

Peter Lorimer (ENG)

Juanito Alonso (ESP)

Angel Atienza (ESP)

Rafael Lesmes (ESP)

Marcos Marquitos (ESP)

Jose Emilio Snatamaria (ESP)

Jose Zarraga (ESP)

Miguel Munoz (ESP)

Hector Rial (ESP)

Francisco Gento (ESP)

Ferenc Puskas (HUN)

Alfredo Di Stefano (ESP)

Jose Domingquez (ESP)

Luis Del Sol (ESP)

Rama Marsal (ESP)

Enrique De Mateos (ESP)

Jose Joseito (ESP)

Ronnie Simpson (SCO)

Jim Craig (SCO)

Tommy Gemmel (SCO)

John Clarke (SCO)

Billy McNeill (SCO)

Jimmy Johnstone (SCO)

Bertie Auld (SCO)

Bobby Murdoch (SCO)

Bobby Lennox (SCO)

Willie Wallace (SCO)

Steve Chalmers (SCO)

Charlie Gallagher (SCO)

Sean Fallon (SCO)

Willie O Neill (SCO)

Joe McBride (SCO)

John Hughes (SCO)

Giovanni Galli (ITA)

Mauro Tassotti (ITA)

Paolo Maldini (ITA)

Frano Baresi (ITA)

Frank Rijkaard (HOL)

Alessandro Costacurta (ITA)

Roberto Donadoin (ITA)

Ruud Gullit (HOL)

Alberigo Evani (ITA)

Pietro Paolo (ITA)

Marco Van Basten (HOL)

Sebastiano Rossi (ITA)

Roberto Mussi (ITA)

Andrea Colombo (ITA)

Sergio Borgonovo (ITA)

Daielle Massaro (ITA)

Andoni Zubizarreta (ESP)

Albert Ferrer (ESP)

Sergi Barjuan (ESP)

Ronald Koeman (HOL)

Miguel Angel Nadal (ESP)

Michael Laudrup (DEN)

Josep Guardiola (ESP)

Gheorghi Hagi (ROM)

Luis Figo (POR)

Hristo Stoichkov (BUL)

Ronaldo (BRA)

Vitor Baia (POR)

Fernando Couto (POR)

Marc Overmars (HOL)

Ivan De La Pena (ESP)

Rivaldo (BRA)

Johan Cruyff (HOL)

Dennis Bergkamp (HOL)

Felix (BRA)

Carlos Alberto (BRA)

Marco Antonio (BRA)

Joao Brito (BRA)

Piazza (BRA)

Jairzinho (BRA)

Clodoaldo

Gerson (BRA)

Rivelino (BRA)

Tostao (BRA)

SPele (BRA)

Ado (BRA)

Fontana (BRA)

Edu (BRA)

Roberto (BRA)

Paulo Cesar (BRA)

Andy Goram (SCO)

Paul Gascoigne (ENG)

Ally McCoist (SCO)

Gordon Durie (SCO)

Colin Hendry (SCO)

Marcel Desailly (FRA)

Dejan Savicevic (SCG)

Edgar Davids (HOL)

Piet Schrijvers (NED)

Wim Suubier (NED)

Ruud Krol (NED)

Wim Rijsbergen (NED)

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Michael Reiziger (HOL)

Frank De Boer (HOL)

Frank Rijkaard (HOL)

Clarence Seedorf (HOL)

Ronald De Boer (HOL)

Jari Litamen (FIN)

Finidi George (NGA)

Patrick Kluivert (HOL)

Louis Van Gaal (HOL)

Bernard Lama (FRA)

Christian Karembeu (FRA)

Youri Djorkaeff (FRA)

Didier Deschamps (FRA)

Bixente Lizarazu (FRA)

Zinedine Zidane (FRA)

Ciro Ferrara (ITA)

Gianluca Vialli (ITA)

Fabrizio Ravanelli (ITA)

I have loads more if you want em!

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that's quite a list sensibleswos!!!!!!! i've just browsed through it briefly but i'm sure the majority if not all can be added to the system if they fit the criteria, i.e. they aren't already involved in the game in a managerial role. feel free to add more as well.

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Florian Prunea (ROU)

Daniel Prodan (ROU)

Tibor Selymes (ROU)

Miodrag Belodedici (ROU)

Georghe Popescu (ROU)

Dan Petrescu (ROU)

Constantin Galca (ROU)

Ilie Dumitrescu (ROU)

Ion Vladiou (ROU)

Florin Raduciou (ROU)

Bogdan Stelea (ROU)

George Mihali (ROU)

Ion Chirita (ROU)

Doriel Munteanu (ROU)

Basarab Panduru (ROU)

Miodrag Belodedici (SCG)

Sinisa Mihajlovic (SCG)

Vladimir Jugovic (SCG)

Robert Prosinecki (SCG)

Dimitri Radinovic (SCG)

Darko Pancev (SCG)

Jurgen Klinsmann (GER)

Jocelyn Angloma (FRA)

Paul Gascoigne (ENG)

Gary Lineker (ENG)

Terry Butcher (ENG)

Bryan Robson (ENG)

Des Walker (ENG)

David Seaman (ENG)

Tony Adams (ENG)

Kevin Keegan (ENG)

Oliver Kahn (GER)

Les Ferdinand (ENG)

David Ginola (FRA)

Pietro Vierchowod (ITA)

Antonio Careca (ITA)

Jimmy Rimmer (ENG)

Kevin Swain (ENG)

Gary Williams (ENG)

Kenneth McNaught (ENG)

Brendon Ormsby (ENG)

Des Bremmer (SCO)

Gordon Cowans (ENG)

Dennis Mortimer (ENG)

Tony Morley (ENG)

Peter Withe (ENG)

Gary Shaw (ENG)

Nigel Spink (ENG)

Colin Bibson (ENG)

Allen Evans (ENG)

Ivor Linton (ENG)

Terence Donovon (IRL)

Andreas Kope (GER)

Abedi Pele (GHA)

Jean-Pierre Papin (FRA)

Fabien Barthez (FRA)

Chris Waddle (ENG)

Karl-Heinz Rummenigger (GER)

Franz Beckenbauer (GER)

Gerd Muller (GER)

thats pritty much all I can think off right now lol

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