Diceman123 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hi, I like playing FM but I don't want to waste hours and hours searching for and testing tactics, I want to focus on scouting and transfers. Are the default tactics any good to play with or will you come up short with those? Some advice would be great! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4y_z Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 From what I experienced I can say that they are not bad for smaller teams, as they keep things simple. But, you should always taylor them a bit to your team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansongs Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I did this in I think FM13. It works alright. Probably the only year I've regularly beaten the teams below me (while being battered by bigger sides). Pick a basic formation for your squad, stick on standard/flexible and if there's an obvious change to make while you're actually playing make it, but as you get better players small problems tend to iron themselves out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If you don't want to alter any roles/duties, and not add any PIs or TIs, you'll have to make sure you get good players for the tactic in question. It is a very simplistic output, but if you can get player who fit the tactic it can be as good a tactic as any other choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 As kingjericho said. If you choose a pre-made tactic and don't make any adjustments to it whatsoever, you better make sure that the players you have will fit reasonably well into that formation and those particular roles/duties. Then it could work well. I have just started a new save as Arsenal where I have gone as simplistic as never before; 4231 Wide, Control or Attacking mentality, Very Fluid. Changed a couple of roles/duties from the default tactic, added 4 or 5 team instructions, and only 1 player specific instruction. That's simplistic for me. It's working remarkably well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman123 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 As kingjericho said. If you choose a pre-made tactic and don't make any adjustments to it whatsoever, you better make sure that the players you have will fit reasonably well into that formation and those particular roles/duties. Then it could work well. I have just started a new save as Arsenal where I have gone as simplistic as never before; 4231 Wide, Control or Attacking mentality, Very Fluid. Changed a couple of roles/duties from the default tactic, added 4 or 5 team instructions, and only 1 player specific instruction. That's simplistic for me. It's working remarkably well. Thanks for the tips guys! What team instructions did you use for that 4231 wide? It's the formation I also want to play with! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Thanks for the tips guys!What team instructions did you use for that 4231 wide? It's the formation I also want to play with! Do you have my players though? But ok; my TI's are Work ball, whip corners, close down more and roam. Sometimes I also add (to attacking mentality) that "prevent keeper distribute short" thingy if I need to score and I feel that the other team is playing a keep the ball strategy. The only PI I use is telling my keepers to distribute to full backs. Player roles are (back to front and left to right): SK/d. FB/s, CD/d, CD/d, FB/auto. DLP/s, CM/d. IF or W/s, T, IF or W/s. CF/a. "Or" obviously depending on which player I use in that position; most of my alternatives plays their best when set to a IF role, but a few (like Podolski, Walcott) likes a W role better. I used to play this with a roaming playmaker instead of a DLP/s, but have come to the conclusion that a DLP/s role will actually see that player be more involved, in this particular setup. I was worried that a DLP/s would sit too deep and not be involved in the attack much, but this isn't the case at all. And a AP/s does not track back fast enough, and is the poorest choice for a midfield playmaker role in this 4231 and with control/attacking mentalities, I feel. I also used to have a AM/s instead of the trequartista, but decided that I don't need the AMC player be involved that much in defending now, so opted for a treq instead. The subtle changes to the match engine in the latest 2 patches also had a role to play in these decisions. There's also set piece instructions to consider, and I have made some tweaks to the default setup, the most significant being that I have told the right full back and both CD's to zonal mark the 6 yard box. Opposition instructions: Yes, I use those too, but here I am a bit lazy and and go with my assistant's recommendations, as I have a good one. Except his recommendations for tackling; he likes to tackle hard, I don't. But I take his advice on marking, closing down and weak foot. And finally match prep. Once I have full tactical familiarity I use attacking movement if I'm expecting to dominate - and I most often do; otherwise I stick it to teamwork. All considered, not really as simple as choosing a formation and play, is it ... but for me, pretty much as close to plug-and-play as I can put up with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 You could just make a few basic changes, based on wwfan's 12 step guide - this would take literally about 3 minutes, but can make a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman123 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Thanks alot, will try your settings!! Do you have my players though? But ok; my TI's are Work ball, whip corners, close down more and roam. Sometimes I also add (to attacking mentality) that "prevent keeper distribute short" thingy if I need to score and I feel that the other team is playing a keep the ball strategy. The only PI I use is telling my keepers to distribute to full backs. Player roles are (back to front and left to right): SK/d. FB/s, CD/d, CD/d, FB/auto. DLP/s, CM/d. IF or W/s, T, IF or W/s. CF/a. "Or" obviously depending on which player I use in that position; most of my alternatives plays their best when set to a IF role, but a few (like Podolski, Walcott) likes a W role better. I used to play this with a roaming playmaker instead of a DLP/s, but have come to the conclusion that a DLP/s role will actually see that player be more involved, in this particular setup. I was worried that a DLP/s would sit too deep and not be involved in the attack much, but this isn't the case at all. And a AP/s does not track back fast enough, and is the poorest choice for a midfield playmaker role in this 4231 and with control/attacking mentalities, I feel. I also used to have a AM/s instead of the trequartista, but decided that I don't need the AMC player be involved that much in defending now, so opted for a treq instead. The subtle changes to the match engine in the latest 2 patches also had a role to play in these decisions. There's also set piece instructions to consider, and I have made some tweaks to the default setup, the most significant being that I have told the right full back and both CD's to zonal mark the 6 yard box. Opposition instructions: Yes, I use those too, but here I am a bit lazy and and go with my assistant's recommendations, as I have a good one. Except his recommendations for tackling; he likes to tackle hard, I don't. But I take his advice on marking, closing down and weak foot. And finally match prep. Once I have full tactical familiarity I use attacking movement if I'm expecting to dominate - and I most often do; otherwise I stick it to teamwork. All considered, not really as simple as choosing a formation and play, is it ... but for me, pretty much as close to plug-and-play as I can put up with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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