dziureq Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Hello At the beginning of this post I would like to emphasise that I really appreciate all the effort you put into releasing this great product. I am a software developer so I do know how hard is to release good program without many bugs. I am fan of your series since CM3, some time ago I've switched completely to Steam for better experience and since then I have FM2009/2010/2011 and latest FM 2013 on my account (http://screencast.com/t/bc9loJNkfonH and so far I was more than happy with your product. Until today when you released 13.1.3 patch and when I noticed that well known bug with wrong Polish major league schedule wasn't fixed at all. I know that there are many more markets that bring you more profits but this bug isn't a "hard-to-reproduce" and "almost-impossible-to-fix" one and needed only one small tiny change: alter start date when games in Polish Esktraklasa are schedules in round starting on Spring. So tiny modification would allow all players from Poland to enjoy their game without cursing and playing games each 2-3 days (league, national cup, champions league). And don't tell me that is too expensive to do that, because this change should take max 1 hour to fix and 2 hours to test it. I am estimating similar bug fixess and change requests on my daily job so don't tell me that I am not close with these numbers. But you've chosen different way and ignore one not-so-big market in the east of Europe and now all players using this league could only shout all worst curses in their language when dealing with tired footballers, injuries and packed calendar that makes it impossible to play on three fronts. Regards from Poland, Tom PS: If you are using Java or something similar I could even fix it for you using access through VPN or something. For free! That's it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankie Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Have you actually reported this as a bug on the forums? I ask as I couldn't see any Polish league bugs on the bug forum and SI can't fix bugs that they are not aware of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dziureq Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Our researcher wrote (on our polish FM community forum) that he raised that issue and it will be fixed in the next patch so as far as I know it is a known bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 It was made clear in the release notes that this was a hotfix to deal with specific issues with the match engine only. Paul C has indicated that there will be a full update, which will include non match engine fixes, released before Xmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters76 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 PS: If you are using Java or something similar I could even fix it for you using access through VPN or something. For free! That's it! Java It's made in C++ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dziureq Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 It was made clear in the release notes that this was a hotfix to deal with specific issues with the match engine only. Paul C has indicated that there will be a full update, which will include non match engine fixes, released before Xmas. But if you look at release notes (http://www.sigames.com/news/14201/FM2013+Update+1313 you will see that there are some competition fixes and some more stuff except match engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I would assume that the small fixes included were either identified early or easily rectified- we appreciate your frustration but if it is not included in the fix notes, it is not fixed yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 As a workaround can you not fix it yourself in the editor? Or are start-dates hardcoded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dziureq Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 As a workaround can you not fix it yourself in the editor? Or are start-dates hardcoded? Unfortunately changes in the editor does not propagate into saved games. And I like my current career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert1105 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I'd have thought if it is a data error as you suggest then a SI update won't be save compatible anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michal Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 This year you have made a mockery of the Polish players. Beta & 2 patches and the game is still unplayable. Shame on you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted November 21, 2012 Administrators Share Posted November 21, 2012 This 'well known issue' wasn't raised on the bugs forum - http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/318762-Poland-(Official)-League-Specific-Issues How can we fix something we're not informed about until now? I'll check and see if the Polish researcher raised it elsewhere, but for these kinds of issues you should really raise them in the relevant places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrizzitD Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Unfortunately changes in the editor does not propagate into saved games. And I like my current career This sounds like a database fix and if so it wouldnt be savegame compatible anyway just a heads up to prepare you for that. I could be wrong and its not a database thing but sounds like it will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dziureq Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 This sounds like a database fix and if so it wouldnt be savegame compatible anyway just a heads up to prepare you for that. I could be wrong and its not a database thing but sounds like it will be. But why changes in Russian Cup final match date (introduced in 13.1.3 patch) are save compatible then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrizzitD Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 As I said I could be wrong dont take my word for it. Just be prepared it might not be savegame compatible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted November 21, 2012 Administrators Share Posted November 21, 2012 This was indeed raised by the Polish researcher internally - however with these kinds of issues, if you spot them please do take the time to raise them within our bugs forum so we're aware of the severity of the issue. Any fix for this issue would most likely need a new save game for the changes to take affect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dziureq Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 This 'well known issue' wasn't raised on the bugs forum - http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/318762-Poland-(Official)-League-Specific-IssuesHow can we fix something we're not informed about until now? I'll check and see if the Polish researcher raised it elsewhere, but for these kinds of issues you should really raise them in the relevant places. I raised this bug in a proper place: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/318762-Poland-(Official)-League-Specific-Issues?p=8308770&viewfull=1#post8308770 Hope that helps. And of course if it will turn out that this bug wasn't raised earlier I owe you and all SI crew an apologize. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted November 21, 2012 Administrators Share Posted November 21, 2012 Thanks for taking the time to post it there, it's appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dziureq Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 No problem, I should have done it some time ago. PS: It would be hiper-super-extra-mega-ultra cool if this fix could not require starting new game. After playing 3 or more seasons if would be a horrible pita to start over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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