djclipz Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 This one has baffled me for a while now, I like to invest in young players but im sure i don't do enough to maximise there development into an awesome player. I try to loan players out but if there is no interest how do you integrate them into your first team!!? More than likely there standard is way below that of my first team so do i risk playing them at the cost of maybe losing or just let them stay in my reserves (which doesn't seem to do a lot!!) However I do find at the beginning of a season they have sometimes improved dramatically so i decide to take them from there or offload them!! Is there anything else useful to do with youngsters1??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAssassin1982UK Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 sending em to feeder clubs to play and develop is useful. From a training point of view, i also be interested to hear what people have to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I sometimes play them in lesser important fixtures like cup games against much weaker teams or in irrelevant league or european games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard76 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Obviously playing first team football is the best way to ensure your young prospects progress. Whether that's at a feeder club or for your own team. A question I have though is how much does match rating have on development??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes_83 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Loan him to a club that will provide competition that is on the same level as his skills, and make sure the loaning club plans to use him a lot. Play him in first teams games as much as possible when he is not on loan. Get the best coaches you can. Don't over train. Tutor him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAssassin1982UK Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 apart from to feeder clubs, ive found loaning players out very difficult on fm09. Good youngsters who should be snapped up, bring in no offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djclipz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 i am the same, for example i have a rather big reserve squad, only managing to get 2 or 3 out on loan and even this is just as cover so i don't see that benefitting the player too much!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes_83 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 apart from to feeder clubs, ive found loaning players out very difficult on fm09. Good youngsters who should be snapped up, bring in no offers. I actually think I am learning the reason behind this is not because there are no teams that would take them on loan, but because the player himself will not go to those teams so the game is coded to just not show interest or bid for him when they know he stands no chance of going on loan. I find that players capable of playing the EPL will get very few loan offers and I think it is because they won't go anywhere except the big leagues, and teams in those leagues have little use for them as they have their own fringe players. In 08 I found it all to easy to be in the BSP and get good players on loan from the top teams. I think it has changed for the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 That's the advantage to having a feeder club; the move is basically automatic. However, I've seen plenty of useful loan action in my game; you don't have to have a feeder club. You can set their Transfer Status to "Listed for Loan", then use "Offer to Clubs", and select "For Loan". If the player is "looking forward to going on loan" and is not good enough to crack a Premiership lineup, you should still get multiple offers from lower-level clubs. I recommend selecting a club with good training facilities, in an active league, from the highest league that bids for the player, where the player is clearly better than the next-best option (so that you're assured he starts!) The other way you can get improvement is by keeping them at your club. Use the "Player Interaction" module to set up Tutoring links between the player and a veteran starter at his position. In addition to plenty of Reserve action, you need to get the young player regular first-team appearances. Start him for every League Cup and F.A. Cup match a.la Arsenal, and also put him on the bench for League matches. Bring him in as "fresh legs" in the final twenty minutes, especially of matches which you have a comfortable lead in. I typically have a couple of high-Determination veterans on the bench as well, for trying to turn around a match, and a couple of pacey youngsters for running the Counter-attack if I have a lead. As the player improves, you want to begin starting him in League matches, usually about 30-40% of matches in his first season as a starter - at this stage, he's not as good as your veteran at the same position, but its worth "sacrificing" to keep the veteran fresh for crucial European matches by starting the young player against lower mid-table clubs and relegation fodder. As he continues to improve, ramp up his playing time. I find around 60% in the second season and 75-80% in the third season is a good rate of increase. (Going slowly like that prevents the player from developing the "Feeling the Pressure of Public Expectations concern). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiN8 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I have a bunch of talented youth that won't go to my feeders clubs - 2 in Championship and 1 in SPL. The youth are 19 to 20 years old and aren't getting too many first team appearances. Clubs in the top leagues rarely respond to "Offer to Clubs for loan". They only loan with intention to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Try the tactics & training forum. May be something in there for you to do with training! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
small Mac Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Amaroq you cheat! I've just read your reply in another thread! No more copy and paste for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 ... guilty! ... I posted in the other thread first, and thought this one had more information in it already, so I didn't want to link off to the other thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellfire Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Aye some players even though they are only 18 refuse to go to affiliated clubs in the championship, bit of a pain. Managed to get 33 youngsters out on load this season, all indispensable to, so should get some results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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