FM10 Seems slower than 09 ???

trueblue · November 8, 2009

It is supposed to have the exact same system requirements as last years game ( of which i had NO major issues ) but this version seems to be a lot slower in a few areas.

Firstly when i initially load up the game the screen that appears with the "loading msg" in various languages seems to last forever.

The 3d match engine seems to be good one game and slow and jittery on another,,,, my 3d system rating in preferences is 5 star. I dont understand how if it where a system issue with my laptop why some games would be smooth and others not,, wouldnt it be one or the other ??? Also when the match intially loads the sound of the crowd and game starts before it goes to the match view,, i scored a goal in an old firm game against celtic in 45 sec, ,and never got to see it,, when screen opened match view players where already celebrating ,, had to make do with the replay :mad:

The other one i have noticed a lot is when saving a game manually it seems to last a fortnight to finish

I am running about 2 gig ram on vista,, but like said had no probs with 09,, i am also on patch 10.1,, just wondered if anyone else has noticed anything similar and if it is common then perhaps better off waiting for a new patch before going out and buying new RAM or graffix card:confused:

Maidel · November 8, 2009

Yes other people have noticed similar - most of them had had out of date graphics card drivers.

for me, the processing time (Appart from the inital game load time) is lightning fast - the game goes between days so fast I dont have time to change the TV channel!

Whats your full system specs? GPU, RAM and graphics?

Sir_Liam · November 8, 2009

FM2010 is much quicker than 09 for me, aside from the 3d engine which is stuttery with the high graphics setting. It's fine on the medium setting though.

Blanchflower1 · November 8, 2009

FM 2010 is much quicker!

Nonlondoner · November 8, 2009

Just had a 1Gb memory card installed, doubling my memory and the game files now. No more sticking in the 3D match screens. Twenty quid well spent I think.

FM 4 Life · November 15, 2009

I'm having the same problem with the 3D match engine being slow, jittery & skipping phases of play. FM 2009 ran on my pc with No Problems whatsoever, I've even got a high rating in my system 3D rating is 4 star.

I've ran dxdiag, the results are below

CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP???

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System Information

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Time of this report: 11/15/2009, 23:08:24

Machine name: ROY

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.090804-1435)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: AWARD_

System Model: 661M04-GX-6LH

BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG

Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.40GHz

Memory: 1024MB RAM

Page File: 873MB used, 855MB available

Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes

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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.

Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Music Tab: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices

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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type: GeForce 6800 GT

DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0045&SUBSYS_817D1043&REV_A1

Display Memory: 128.0 MB

Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Monitor: M1710A

Monitor Max Res:

Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll

Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7824 (English)

DDI Version: 9 (or higher)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 6058112 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

WHQL Date Stamp: n/a

VDD: n/a

Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys

Mini VDD Date: 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 6133856 bytes

Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4305-11CF-636D-76A100C2CB35}

Vendor ID: 0x10DE

Device ID: 0x0045

SubSys ID: 0x817D1043

Revision ID: 0x00A1

Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D

Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

Registry: OK

DDraw Status: Enabled

D3D Status: Enabled

AGP Status: Enabled

DDraw Test Result: Not run

D3D7 Test Result: Not run

D3D8 Test Result: Not run

D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices

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Description: Realtek AC97 Audio

Default Sound Playback: Yes

Default Voice Playback: Yes

Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_7012&SUBSYS_0C56105B&REV_A0

Manufacturer ID: 65535

Product ID: 65535

Type: WDM

Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS

Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5630 (English)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

Date and Size: 7/1/2004 06:49:00, 626977 bytes

Other Files:

Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.

HW Accel Level: Full

Cap Flags: 0xF5F

Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 192000

Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32

Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32

HW Memory: 0

Voice Management: Yes

EAX 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes

I3DL2 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes

Sensaura ZoomFX: No

Registry: OK

Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices

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Description: Realtek AC97 Audio

Default Sound Capture: Yes

Default Voice Capture: Yes

Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS

Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5630 (English)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Date and Size: 7/1/2004 06:49:00, 626977 bytes

Cap Flags: 0x41

Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic

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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS

DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002

Acceleration: n/a

Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port

Realtek AC97 Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal

Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal

Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal

Registry: OK

Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices

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Device Name: Mouse

Attached: 1

Controller ID: n/a

Vendor/Product ID: n/a

FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard

Attached: 1

Controller ID: n/a

Vendor/Product ID: n/a

FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Keyboard

Attached: 1

Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0111

FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Keyboard

Attached: 1

Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0111

FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Keyboard

Attached: 1

Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0111

FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

Registry: OK

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USB Devices

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+ USB Root Hub

| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1039, 0x7001

| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub

| Service: usbhub

| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/3/2004 22:08:44, 57600 bytes

| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/4/2004 11:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices

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PS/2 Devices

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+ HID Keyboard Device

| Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0111

| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard

| Service: kbdhid

| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/24/2005 11:22:06, 14848 bytes

| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 24576 bytes

|

+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver

| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd

| Upper Filters: kbdclass

| Service: TermDD

| Driver: termdd.sys, 11/24/2005 10:22:18, 40840 bytes

| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 24576 bytes

|

+ HID-compliant mouse

| Vendor/Product ID: 0x0AB0, 0x0001

| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse

| Service: mouhid

| Driver: mouclass.sys, 11/24/2005 11:53:06, 23040 bytes

| Driver: mouhid.sys, 11/24/2005 10:21:04, 12160 bytes

|

+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver

| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou

| Upper Filters: mouclass

| Service: TermDD

| Driver: termdd.sys, 11/24/2005 10:22:18, 40840 bytes

| Driver: mouclass.sys, 11/24/2005 11:53:06, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers

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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run

DirectPlay Test Result: Not run

Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters

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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider: SoftV92 Data Fax Modem #2

DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1

DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM6

DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Wireless Network Connection 2 - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs

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Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s

Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s

Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s

MS-PCM 64 kbit/s

MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s

Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s

TrueSpeech 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives

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Drive: C:

Free Space: 10.5 GB

Total Space: 30.5 GB

File System: NTFS

Model: SAMSUNG SV0602H

Drive: D:

Free Space: 2.5 GB

Total Space: 78.2 GB

File System: NTFS

Model: Maxtor 6Y080L0

Drive: E:

Free Space: 1.5 GB

Total Space: 26.8 GB

File System: NTFS

Model: SAMSUNG SV0602H

Drive: F:

Model: ASUS DRW-1608P3S

Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:54, 49536 bytes

Drive: G:

Model: DVD-ROM LTD-16X5H

Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:54, 49536 bytes

Drive: I:

Model: XCNAH XI7CTUZKXIBO SCSI CdRom Device

Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 21:59:54, 49536 bytes

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System Devices

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Name: SoftV92 Data Fax Modem #2

Device ID: PCI\VEN_14F1&DEV_2F00&SUBSYS_200414F1&REV_01\3&61AAA01&0&48

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\HSFCXTS2.sys, 7.12.0009.0000 (English), 11/24/2005 11:22:30, 685056 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\HSFBS2S2.sys, 7.12.0009.0000 (English), 11/24/2005 11:22:24, 220032 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\HSFDPSP2.sys, 7.12.0009.0000 (English), 11/24/2005 11:22:10, 1041536 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\mdmxsdk.sys, 1.00.0002.0006 (English), 11/24/2005 11:22:30, 11868 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\cxthsfS2.cty, 11/24/2005 11:22:24, 129045 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mdmxsdk.dll, 1.00.0002.0006 (English), 11/24/2005 11:22:26, 86016 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\HSFCISP2.dll, 7.12.0009.0000 (English), 11/24/2005 11:22:28, 32285 bytes

Name: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT

Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0045&SUBSYS_817D1043&REV_A1\4&1AFFAA3D&0&0008

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 6133856 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 6058112 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 163908 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 475136 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuda.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 1368064 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 8826880 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcpl.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 13574144 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmctray.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 86016 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwddi.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 81920 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvnt4cpl.dll, 6.14.0010.11194 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 286720 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccs.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 229376 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdisps.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 3989504 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdispsr.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 5799936 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvgames.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 3444736 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvgamesr.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 3457024 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccss.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 188416 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccssr.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 458752 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmobls.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 1257472 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmoblsr.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 2854912 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvvitvs.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 3764224 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvvitvsr.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 4149248 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwss.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 2686976 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwssr.dll, 6.14.0011.7824 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 2981888 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpl.hlp, 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 177897 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcplen.hlp, 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 55444 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcod.dll, 1.03.0004.0028 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 122880 bytes

Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcodins.dll, 1.03.0004.0028 (English), 10/7/2008 13:33:00, 122880 bytes

Maidel · November 15, 2009

Well you only have 1gb of ram and your graphics card is the bare minimum required.

Your graphics card drivers are over a year old.

Try turning off the sound, see if that helps - but basically, you hit the mimum requirements, and thats why you are struggling - turn the crowd off, the stadium off and the sky off.

EDIT - the stars thingi is bugged to hell - I only get 2 stars, yet I run a 512mb graphic card with 4gig of ram and a dual core 2.4ghz processor.

**Neil Brock** · November 16, 2009

Yeah the star system isn't quite right - as people have rightly said, updating your graphics card drivers helps in the majority of cases.

FM 4 Life · November 16, 2009

Yeah the star system isn't quite right - as people have rightly said, updating your graphics card drivers helps in the majority of cases.

Thanks for your response.

I've jus updated my graphics cards drivers, but still experience the same problem!!

Can You give me anymore advise???

My new dxdiag is:

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System Information

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Time of this report: 11/16/2009, 00:48:10

Machine name: ROY-7F8FDB98

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.090804-1435)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: AWARD_

System Model: 661M04-GX-6LH

BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG

Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.40GHz

Memory: 1024MB RAM

Page File: 828MB used, 868MB available

Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes

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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.

Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Music Tab: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices

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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type: GeForce 6800 GT

DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0045&SUBSYS_817D1043&REV_A1

Display Memory: 128.0 MB

Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor

Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200

Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll

Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9107 (English)

DDI Version: 9 (or higher)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 9/27/2009 16:12:22, 5900416 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

WHQL Date Stamp: n/a

VDD: n/a

Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys

Mini VDD Date: 9/27/2009 16:12:22, 7655872 bytes

Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4305-11CF-6050-76A100C2CB35}

Vendor ID: 0x10DE

Device ID: 0x0045

SubSys ID: 0x817D1043

Revision ID: 0x00A1

Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D