Elrithral Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Can player histories please be improved, atm they are very messy and have a lot of useless information included e.g. reserve history (at certain clubs) and seasons in which the player didn't feature. History 1 includes 32 appearances for the reserve squad and a season with 0 appearances for Bayern as he was on loan at Saint-Etienne. History 2 includes 3 appearances for the reserve squad and a season with 0 appearances for Bayern II as he was on loan at Leverkusen. History 3 includes 9 appearances for the reserve squad. I know it's no big deal, but I like to keep tabs on player appearances, goals etc and duplicate seasons (due to loans) in which no appearances are made for one club shouldn't be included. The same goes for appearances for reserve teams, regardless of whether they take part in a division or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted August 19, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted August 19, 2009 I don't agree. If a player has gone on loan to a team but not played for them it should still be shown in their history. The same with being part of a squad and not featuring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 No, sorry, lost in translation. The loan should appear, but it also shows the team that owns him i.e. Bayern 0 appearances, Lyon 30 appearances. There's no need to show the Bayern part, because he spent the season at Lyon. E.g. History 1, season 14/15 should only show his loan spell at Saint-Etienne and not the 0 appearances he made for the team who owns him. I'm talking about duplicates of seasons, even though they only played for one team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgibson9999 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I don't agree with this either. If you start leaving out seasons where a player has made no appearances for a club then I think it will start to look messy at least this way everything is complete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 I never said anything about leaving out seasons! I'm talking about duplicate seasons or seasons spent with the reserves in which it show up as 0 appearances for the first team, rather than however many appearances for the reserves. There will be no gaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Ok, to save any further confusion, turn this; Into this; Each season is accounted for, with only first team football included and no duplication of seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryMills Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I agree with Elrithal on this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgibson9999 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 ok misunderstood, but what would happen then in the case of a player going out on loan and not appearing for that club does that mean the loan move wouldn't be recorded in his history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryMills Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Elrithral, sorry! my spelling's not great... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryMills Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 If he spends the season on loan, but doesn't appear, I think it should show 0 appearances for the club he spent the season at, in this case the loan club. Just my opinion though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yup, it would show his season spent at the loan club, but show up as 0 appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner4eva Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I agree with Elrithral on this. Also in the Portuguese league it has Joao Mountinho's history back to 1999 when he was 13 and it just has the line through the year until 2004 which is a waste of space on the history screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I agree, but I'd also be happier if those lines showed more than just league games. Yes, you can select a season to see the other stats in the applet below, but you could just as easily select a season to see the breakdown of league games. I hate when a player has an outrageously good european campaign and his player history seemingly reflects none of it on the initial view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I think it's fine as it is. If the player has not spent the entire season of Jul 1st till Jun 30th on loan (which in FM never happens anyway) then the information whether he had appearances for his owner team remains interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 I think it's fine as it is. If the player has not spent the entire season of Jul 1st till Jun 30th on loan (which in FM never happens anyway) then the information whether he had appearances for his owner team remains interesting. And if he has made an appearance then it stays, if he hasn't it's pointless. If there is duplication season you would know that he made an appearance for his parent club, if not then it would be obvious that he didn't, so there would be no need to make that information available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox2k Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I agree with Elrithral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner4eva Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Maybe there could be an option to delete various years on the history page in game if you felt it was a bit cluttered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I'd be happy with being able to view stats for ALL appearences as default in the player history page rather than having to manually click on each year individually to see the stats for all comps in that year. When you click on career history it should show just that his career history, not just the league stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDEHLSON Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Lol... I like checking B teams results... Dont agree with at least that part...whats the problem anyways? They are actual teams its not like English reserve teams... couldnt care less about Joao Moutinho's (and some other portuguese players) long histories tho (dont really mind them..) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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