shanks Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I was reading up about the Russian Premier League today and noticed that all of the clubs are situated in the West of Russia other than FC Luch-Energiya who play in the far far East of Russia. Wikipedia says that it is a 9hr plane journey from Moscow to Luch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Luch-Energiya_Vladivostok CSKA played a match against Luch which they lost 4-0 after a 7hr plane journey. Akinfeev, the captain of CSKA, was far from pleased saying that they should play in the Japanese league due to the distance and time to play them. This got me thinking, does the time it takes a team to get to the match have any influence in FM. Because clearly, the 7hr journey endured by CSKA added to the fatigue of the players and most probably was one of the main reasons behind the heavy defeat. Just wanted to know if this is such in the game, and if not maybe it could be included. Obvioulsy in England, travelling distance would not have much, if any, affect on fatigue etc, but in countries such as Russia or USA maybe it would. Your thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 It is an interesting point, and I think that given that players now travel, and feel tired from travelling, to and from international matches, it could be possible to implement this in a certain way at club level. Certainly one would feel tired after travelling to, say, Turkey or Ukraine, for a European match, and then having to fly back again for the weekend domestic matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon07 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Traveling fatigue should be included without a doubt for me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffers Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Same in the MLS aswell to go from east to west is at least a 6hr plane journey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougyMarshall Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 To be honest it seems like a convieniant excuse as to why CSKA got beat. I mean, obviosly that same team has to travel 7 hours every away game... are they complaining? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innawerkz Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I'm thinking this has an abstract representation within the game based on Away games being typically more difficult to win. Asking SI to factor in 2 hours equals a 5% drop off vs. a 15% drop off for 4.5 hours or more might be a little bit of an unnecessary pain.... no matter the realism (or lack of). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 To be honest it seems like a convieniant excuse as to why CSKA got beat.I mean, obviosly that same team has to travel 7 hours every away game... are they complaining? Lol well thier not complaining but they did end up getting relegated last season so the 7 hours travelling probably didn't help thier cause Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-riot Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I've had messages from the ass man about scott macdonald at celtic a few times after returning from international duty, said he looked a bit jet lagged going into the game, his condition was around 90 to 94%, didn't seem to affect his game tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
auberius Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Well in 08 it seemed as if before every european tie you got told the distance between the two clubs; that news item's become far less frequent but it does appear, and the game can clearly calculate the distance because the longitude and latitude of each city is in the database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearesporting Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Lol well thier not complaining but they did end up getting relegated last season so the 7 hours travelling probably didn't help thier cause I'd say the rest of the league is quite happy with that result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ism-scfc Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it could have an effect in England. Moscow to Luch is 9 hours by plane Carlisle to Brighton is 7 hours by Road Due to the different methods of transport used in smaller countries, the journey times are often just as long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM mad Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Teams normally travel up the day before a game if its a long journey. Wont make them as tired and stiff for the game. Would be a good idea to put into the game, but would be difficult to make sure it works. Saw a thread a while back saying that if you need to travel up before and book into a hotel it should be deducted from your financies. Again would need to be worked on to make sure it doesnt get out of hand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Again this is one of those interesting little details. We do see it in real life, in most international breaks Sky or some other TV channel are totting up the miles travelled by players per club and when they come back sometimes get rested, like Tevez and Mascherano. Of course you have players which dont come back at all, like Zaki lol. In real life, its not often teams travel on the day of the match if there is any real distance involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ism-scfc Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 In real life, its not often teams travel on the day of the match if there is any real distance involved. It is when you're skint. Next week, we've got to go from Stockport (Cheshire) to Brighton (Sussex) on the day of the game, as we can't afford to stay in a hotel. Great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 It is when you're skint.Next week, we've got to go from Stockport (Cheshire) to Brighton (Sussex) on the day of the game, as we can't afford to stay in a hotel. Great. I know my geography lol! Hopefully the players will have a half decent coach! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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