Purple Frog Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Chappy2509 said: Second season in has any one had any luck retraining Williams to the complete forward role iduruz retired but it’s not go well so far 8 games no goals and a very low avergare rating . Well in my save Williams is a 3.5star complete forward in the second season. Currently rotating with Aduriz and guruzeta in front. Try patiently playing him he'll improve. Oh and playing him in front of Raul garcia seems to do wonders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricotero_uy Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 My first season with Athletic not using a 4-2-3-1. I'm using Knap's Argus 3-4-3, and we won La Liga and the Europa League. La Liga Europa League Group Stage & Knockout rounds. Copa del Rey Best XI Transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Chappy2509 said: Second season in has any one had any luck retraining Williams to the complete forward role iduruz retired but it’s not go well so far 8 games no goals and a very low avergare rating . He played a blinder as a DLF-At when Aduriz retired for me, but then 2nd season he wasn't very good. Our goals dried up in general that season though - I think the AI figured out my Attacking / Very Fluid could be stopped if they just sat back as we had better results against top teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowieinspace Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 15 hours ago, Chappy2509 said: Second season in has any one had any luck retraining Williams to the complete forward role iduruz retired but it’s not go well so far 8 games no goals and a very low avergare rating . For me he's not great as a forward, personally I'd lean towards playing him in a different role if you want to play him up there but obviously depends on your system. I think with Athetic's lack of striker options you need to make sure the wingers and midfielders provide a goal threat as Williams doesn't score enough from the centre. I like Williams on the right (or left as an inside forward), with a Raul Garcia up front in a DF type role. I've had success with Sabin Merino up there as well, and I know others have picked up Jon Bautista and he's gone well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, bowieinspace said: For me he's not great as a forward, personally I'd lean towards playing him in a different role if you want to play him up there but obviously depends on your system. I think with Athetic's lack of striker options you need to make sure the wingers and midfielders provide a goal threat as Williams doesn't score enough from the centre. I like Williams on the right (or left as an inside forward), with a Raul Garcia up front in a DF type role. I've had success with Sabin Merino up there as well, and I know others have picked up Jon Bautista and he's gone well For me, Iniaki has been silky smooth as a SS (a) w/ Roam From Position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Frog Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 So I'm the only one who uses Iñaki as the primary goalscorer? Guess I got lucky. . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy2509 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yeah I’m afraid I had to go and buy Bautista as he wasn’t cutting it and I only just scraped a 7 th place finish second season I hoping Villalibre can develop but so far that’s not harming .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Frog Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Well this is my striker Williams with 17 goals in the middle of the second season... Not really sure if I'm consistently getting lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy2509 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Well luckily for me so far Bautista is having a good start 7 goals from 11games Williams back in is preferred role and I’m 5 th in the league playing better than last season long may it continue,... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy2509 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 siting here watching the athletic game and all o can think is a lot of the youngster are underated in this game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowieinspace Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Chappy2509 said: siting here watching the athletic game and all o can think is a lot of the youngster are underated in this game Yep, youth ratings have been pretty poor for quite a few years. Considering the amount of youth players who go on to play for Athletic's first team (or other La Liga clubs/Segunda clubs), you would expect youth ratings to reflect a big pool of players who could contribute to the first team in future years, with the vast majority only ever being good enough to be rotation/back up options and the odd one or two who become top level players. However I tend to find on FM with Athletic at the start you might get 1 or 2 who turn into good first team players or even beyond (sometimes they are overrated even), but the rest are just a waste. Compared to say an Ajax in game, where you go into Jung Ajax or the kids team and they're stacked with players who could go on to play for the first team. Kepa is a prime example...for years in FM he would never become that good and his variable PA in those years wasn't that high, but everyone could see he was likely to be world class in the future. Then you look at players like Yeray, Unai Nunez, and Inigo Cordoba who are now first team regulars...those guys would be lucky to get to 120CA in many previous FMs. Then you have current players like Nolaskoain, Inigo Vicente, Guruzeta and Azcona as examples who look set to either feature for the first team this year, will at some stage in the next 2 or so seasons, or are future stars who are rated so low that they would be lucky to even feature for Bilbao Athletic at their peak. You do obviously get the occasional highly rated youngster too...in recent FM editions VIllalibre, Unai Lopez for example have been arguably overrated. However the odd player with a high variable PA isn't the issue (both Villalibre and Lopez looked likely to become stars at various times, but haven't quite gotten there for various reasons), the problem is the lack of depth, where you get 1 or 2 potential stars and then 30 players who are straight terrible at the start of each game. I tend to start my save when the full game comes out rather than the beta so I can go in to the editor and do a better job with variable PA's. Shame we threw away the result vs Huesca today...shouldn't be doing that at home but Huesca played well. Positive signs under Berizzo though overall, more enjoyable than Ziganda! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Frog Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 4 hours ago, bowieinspace said: Yep, youth ratings have been pretty poor for quite a few years. Considering the amount of youth players who go on to play for Athletic's first team (or other La Liga clubs/Segunda clubs), you would expect youth ratings to reflect a big pool of players who could contribute to the first team in future years, with the vast majority only ever being good enough to be rotation/back up options and the odd one or two who become top level players. However I tend to find on FM with Athletic at the start you might get 1 or 2 who turn into good first team players or even beyond (sometimes they are overrated even), but the rest are just a waste. Compared to say an Ajax in game, where you go into Jung Ajax or the kids team and they're stacked with players who could go on to play for the first team. Kepa is a prime example...for years in FM he would never become that good and his variable PA in those years wasn't that high, but everyone could see he was likely to be world class in the future. Then you look at players like Yeray, Unai Nunez, and Inigo Cordoba who are now first team regulars...those guys would be lucky to get to 120CA in many previous FMs. Then you have current players like Nolaskoain, Inigo Vicente, Guruzeta and Azcona as examples who look set to either feature for the first team this year, will at some stage in the next 2 or so seasons, or are future stars who are rated so low that they would be lucky to even feature for Bilbao Athletic at their peak. You do obviously get the occasional highly rated youngster too...in recent FM editions VIllalibre, Unai Lopez for example have been arguably overrated. However the odd player with a high variable PA isn't the issue (both Villalibre and Lopez looked likely to become stars at various times, but haven't quite gotten there for various reasons), the problem is the lack of depth, where you get 1 or 2 potential stars and then 30 players who are straight terrible at the start of each game. I tend to start my save when the full game comes out rather than the beta so I can go in to the editor and do a better job with variable PA's. Shame we threw away the result vs Huesca today...shouldn't be doing that at home but Huesca played well. Positive signs under Berizzo though overall, more enjoyable than Ziganda! Loved yuri getting his first goal. . . Is there any other youth prospects you think are underrated? I tend to boost Guruzeta, Simon, Muñoz, Vicente, and Nolaskoain. Oh yeah and a bunch of youngsters from other clubs. . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy2509 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Yep agrreded all the youngster you mentioned have no chance of getting near the first team in the game such a shame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowieinspace Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Purple Frog said: Loved yuri getting his first goal. . . Is there any other youth prospects you think are underrated? I tend to boost Guruzeta, Simon, Muñoz, Vicente, and Nolaskoain. Oh yeah and a bunch of youngsters from other clubs. . . Azcona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Frog Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 28/08/2018 at 20:36, bowieinspace said: Azcona Thanks! Not sure if you're still interested but I think the reason why La Liga tends to lag behind the prem in FM is the disparity in prize money. If I'm not mistaken, the La liga prize money should be updated from 4million euros for 1st place to 40 million euros for 1st place and so on! I've edited it using the pre game editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowieinspace Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Purple Frog said: Thanks! Not sure if you're still interested but I think the reason why La Liga tends to lag behind the prem in FM is the disparity in prize money. If I'm not mistaken, the La liga prize money should be updated from 4million euros for 1st place to 40 million euros for 1st place and so on! I've edited it using the pre game editor. Is that a bug? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Frog Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, bowieinspace said: Is that a bug? Well, La Liga signed a more equitable prize money deal a short time ago and I think FM just didn't implement it. As far as I can understand, the original deal meant that Barcelona and Real Madrid got the lion's share regardless of position (this was implemented in the game through 'sponsorships' for the two clubs.) This fits in with your observation that only those two clubs would end up succeeding. So FM is a bit late at updating changes maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Purple Frog said: Well, La Liga signed a more equitable prize money deal a short time ago and I think FM just didn't implement it. As far as I can understand, the original deal meant that Barcelona and Real Madrid got the lion's share regardless of position (this was implemented in the game through 'sponsorships' for the two clubs.) This fits in with your observation that only those two clubs would end up succeeding. So FM is a bit late at updating changes maybe? I'd say that should be put in the bugs forum and hopefully a developer or researcher can spot that and help. Cant do much here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Frog Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jean0987654321 said: I'd say that should be put in the bugs forum and hopefully a developer or researcher can spot that and help. Cant do much here Its possible to edit it manually through the Pre-game editor. Advanced rules-prize money section. But yes, I guess I should raise it up with the developers when fm19 comes out or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Unai Simon also needs a boost it seems. Looks like he's gonna be a solid keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOA Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Has anyone had their C team promoted to a playable league yet? Just wondering whether or not to put any players in there... Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 @IOA I just use it for players with rubbish potential that have come through the youth system to see out their contracts. Especially those who have negative personalities that I don't want to rub off on the guys I actually hope to use in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowieinspace Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 5 hours ago, IOA said: Has anyone had their C team promoted to a playable league yet? Just wondering whether or not to put any players in there... Cheers, It's never happened to me in probably 10 years of FM editions totaling perhaps over 100 seasons in game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 On 02/10/2018 at 12:15, IOA said: Has anyone had their C team promoted to a playable league yet? Just wondering whether or not to put any players in there... Cheers, I never bother with it. I usually just loan out guys that can't get a game in the B team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOA Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Cheers guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Frog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 05/10/2018 at 03:59, IOA said: Cheers guys I use a database with the division enabled though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IOA Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just finished my game with Bilbao and absolutely loved it! A small tip from me is to invest heavily in signing players U17/youth intake who arent part of the critiria for being Basque, then reap the rewards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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