[FM22] Overhauling SAD Franchise, (completed) and now Portugal. (Portugese edition). (Youth Only)............... Maybe!

[Jimbokav1971]

24 minutes ago, rrozek93 said:

Rooney is declining in Portugal, Going from Porto to VG to struggling Sporting and getting a sack. Can you show his managerial career ?  

Yeah sure. Haven't actually looked at this myself yet. 

I've always found it frustrating that there isn't a single screen that shows this well. We have "Job History" screen, but that isn't available for other staff. 

Nov 2035. Hired by Porto.

May 2036. Taça de Portugal Placard winners. 

Dec 2036. Sacked by Porto. 

In Rooney's defence, Porto had only won 2 league titles in the previous 7 seasons, (although they had won 5 Cups). 

Also in his defence, Paul Pogba, (who has just left them by the way), only won 1 league title and 2 Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira's, (Charity Shield), in 7 years. He has a better win % than Rooney, but also lost more games. I'd say both under-performed based on the fact that it's really just them and Benfica competing at the top in recent seasons. 

Jan 2037. Hired by Vitória de Guimarães. 

Aug 2037. Left Vitória de Guimarães. 

Vitória de Guimarães had failed to win, (or even score a single goal), in their previous 5 games before his arrival, and they smashed past Sporting without reply in his 1st game in charge.

Aug 2037. Hired by Sporting. 

Dec 2038. Sacked by Sporting. 

His debut victory for Vitória de Guimarães obviously had an impact on Sporting as they poached him after failing to win either of the opening 2 games of the 2037/38 season. Rooney had an instant impact, losing only 1 of his opening 12 games, (8 wins and 3 draws). He only lost 4 league games all season, (the same as Benfica & Porto), but finished behind them because Sporting drew too many games. It should be mentioned that Sporting haven't finished in the top 3 since Rooney left, have missed out on Europe completely once, and only made it in on another season as a result of winning a Cup. Whatever the problems were/are at Sporting, it wasn't Rooney. The real problem was the start of the following season where Sporting really struggled for goals, (failing to score in 4 of the opening 5 league games), but he had seemed to turn it around when he was sacked after losing to Liverpool in the Champions League, (despite the fact that they still qualified from the Group). 8 unbeaten and then sacked after losing to Liverpool seems a tad harsh. The fact that they have bombed since then serves them right. 

 

Mar 2040. Hired by Real Zaragoza (Spain). 

May 2040. Real Zaragoza relegated after finishing 19th. 

Mar 2041. Sacked by Real Zaragosa.  

They were 6 points from safety and avoiding relegation was probably a bit of a tough ask. That being said, they didn't sack him after relegation and it wasn't until Mar the following season that they got rid of him. when it became clear they weren't bouncing back at the 1st attempt. (Maybe they shouldn't have sold 2 of their best players then). 

Mar 2043. Hired by SD Eibar. (Spain). 

Rooney has inherited a team at the top of the Spanish 2nd tier, (after the previous manager left to take over a team rock bottom of the Spanish 1st tier), and it's likely that the 2 managers will be swapping divisions next season. 

All in all I would say that Rooney has done ok and was probably harshly treated at Sporting. If he gets Eibar promoted and keeps them up next season his stock could be in the rise again. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Youth Intake Day. Mar 2043. 

What I really want. Strikers and centre-backs. 

What I really don't want. Centre-mids, Keepers and Left-backs. 

Squad by PA. 0x 5.0 players is not good and 0x 4.5 PA players is REALLY not good. 

Squad by Actual PA. This is a tiny bit better, but it's still not good. 

His starting CA, (of 50), is such that I think it unlikely he will ever develop to play for the senior squad, although maybe now with the B Team playing competitive football there might be a route for him. 

I like the look of him. He looks better than decent. 

I like the look of him. He looks decent. 

A 2nd left winger? Again looks decent. 

A 2nd right winger? Too slow. 

Edited April 5, 2022 by Jimbokav1971

[Sonic Youth]

I like Antunes, an had this strong reaction that he’d make a good leftback. I feel he’d bring an extra dimension to a team with those passing, first touch and crossing skills from that position more than at right wing.

It’s a curious intake, with SC Silvestre one that looked ok from the personality, determination, workrate and flair. Until the next table which showed the PA. Antunes was the same and the pic of him even more especially after my reaction to what position he felt like I had.

[Jimbokav1971]

NxGn 2043. 

We've got not 1 but 2 players in the NxGn top 50 list for the 1st time in the save. 

(41a) Gil (POR) * is one of my favourite players at the club right now and is getting games both at right back and right wing, (but 1st choice in neither). Aged only 17, he's got 2 more years on this list. He's already made 36(12) appearances for the senior squad in all appearances and is developing really nicely. 

(40b) Ramalho (POR) * is #3 of 4 really good midfielders at the club. The others are 24, 22 and another 18 year old, (who I'm surprised didn't make the list. He has 1 more year on the list. He's already made 78(37) senior appearances , but I have been trying hard not to overload him, (making sure that he starts less than 30 games each season). 

Here are some of the players who I think might consider themselves unlucky not to have made this list. 

(40a) Sérgio (POR) * is the 4th choice central midfielder, and again I have been trying to ease him in and not play him too much too soon. He's made 32(11) appearances. 

(39c) Salgueiro (POR) is lower down the pecking order and has been loaned out to a Liga 2 side this season as a result. Although he has made 30(38) career appearances, 29(1) of them have been made this season

(39d) Rebelo (POR) * is certainly better than some of the players on the NxGn list. Although he's only scored 2 Liga Bwin goals in 10(5) appearances, he usually plays in a weakened side, and has actually scored in 18 goals 33(17) games in all competitions. 

(39a) Moreira (POR) * is an interesting player in that he was close to being used in the senior side this season, but at the last minute I decided that although we could use him, his development would be better served by him going out on loan. Asa  result he has been a regular on the bench for bottom of the table Liga Bwin side Farense. Although it's a real shame that he hasn't managed to score for Farense in 1(17) appearances, he has scored in Liga Bwin previously, (scoring in 1 of his 2 appearances for us in 2040/41. I think he's developing nicely, (even if he's "wrong-footed"), and I can see him playing for us next season. I really like him. 

(39g) Fonseca (POR) * is a player I don't really know what to do with. Because we have so many central players, and because we're just a little short of numbers wide left he has sort of been pushed out there, but actually done really well as 4 goals and 3 assists in 2(3) European games this season suggests. He's good enough for Liga 2 and hopefully someone will want him next season. 

(41g) Amaral (POR) * appears to be a decent all-rounder, and has flourished both in the U19's and B Teams this season. 

(39b) Tiago (POR) has broken into the senior squad this season with 2(4) appearances. he still looks a little raw, but there is something there. 

(41e) Gonçalves (POR) is just really unfortunate that we have so many midfielders in front of him. It's going to be really hard for him to get a look-in. Our best 2 midfielders are in the Portugese squad and still under 25 years old. He's going to have to be satisfied with some loans to develop him. 

(40f) Dabó (GNB) (POR)

(40g) N'Da (CIV) is the last teenager at the club with a CA of at least 100. 

While some of the players on the NxGn list look phenomenal, there are also some who don't. 

This is this season's winner. He looks great. 

#2 is Portugese and looks pretty special. 

This bloke only has a CA of 96. (PA 125)

This bloke has a CA of 97. (PA 151)

Anyway, we have a few players developing well so I can't complain. 

[Jimbokav1971]

41 minutes ago, Sonic Youth said:

I like Antunes, an had this strong reaction that he’d make a good leftback. I feel he’d bring an extra dimension to a team with those passing, first touch and crossing skills from that position more than at right wing.

It’s a curious intake, with SC Silvestre one that looked ok from the personality, determination, workrate and flair. Until the next table which showed the PA. Antunes was the same and the pic of him even more especially after my reaction to what position he felt like I had.

Antunes a left back? Positioning 5.  He doesn't look like a left back to me. 

Although I offered them all contracts on the same day, Only Silvestre had signed his by the time our B Team played the next game. He started and scored on his debut. I know it's a rubbish standard, but he scored......

Antunes is the only good player from the intake I think. I certainly see him more as an attacking player than a left back, but that being said I will look to play him at left back in the B Team if an opportunity presents itself. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Mar 2043. 

Liga Bwin. We've now gone 4 games and 2 whole months without a win and dropped 9 points from a possible 12.  We've dropped to 5th, but with 7 games still to play we're still in contention for 3rd, (5 points behind). 

UEFA Europa League. No such problems in Europe however. 

Goal-scoring GK's. 

Finances.   

[Jimbokav1971]

Highest wage. Apr 2043. 

(35a) Paulo Júnior (POR) * is one of the best players at the club and a current Portugese International, but his contract is due to expire in 2 years time and until recently he wasn't willing to negotiate a new contract. I've just managed to secure him to a new 5 year deal, which will take him to 29 years old, (or 28 years old with 12 months left on his contract). This is a really big deal because I didn't think this was possible while we hadn't qualified for the Champions league. That's the good news. The bad news is that his wage has jumped from £20,000 per month to £200,000 per month, (at a cost of £2.4M per season). 

[Sonic Youth]

14 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Antunes a left back? Positioning 5.  He doesn't look like a left back to me. 

Although I offered them all contracts on the same day, Only Silvestre had signed his by the time our B Team played the next game. He started and scored on his debut. I know it's a rubbish standard, but he scored......

Antunes is the only good player from the intake I think. I certainly see him more as an attacking player than a left back, but that being said I will look to play him at left back in the B Team if an opportunity presents itself. 

I was to distracted by the shiny attacking stats that I missed positioning and marking. I see a more attacking fullback though (still need a certain amount of positioning. 

If you don’t mind, what’s the league average for positioning and if possible for fullbacks?

[Jimbokav1971]

50 minutes ago, Sonic Youth said:

I was to distracted by the shiny attacking stats that I missed positioning and marking. I see a more attacking fullback though (still need a certain amount of positioning. 

If you don’t mind, what’s the league average for positioning and if possible for fullbacks?

I'm not even sure where I would find that information, (average attributes for full backs). Let me have a look....

I think I have found it, but can only group by defenders rather than full backs, (so let me know if this isn't what you mean). 

Positioning. Our average positioning is 14.27 across all defenders in the senior squad. This might be skewed by me having more full backs in the squad than centre-backs, (with full backs needing positioning more than centre-backs). We have the best average positioning attribute. The average in the league is 12.85. 

Marking. Our average positioning is 12.73 across all defenders in the senior squad. The best is Benfica at 13:00 and the average across the league 11.86.

 

[Jimbokav1971]

1 hour ago, Sonic Youth said:

I was to distracted by the shiny attacking stats that I missed positioning and marking. I see a more attacking fullback though (still need a certain amount of positioning. 

If you don’t mind, what’s the league average for positioning and if possible for fullbacks?

The other thing I would say about him playing full back is that if a player is lacking in certain areas then it's much easier to play him before he's ready if he plays in an advanced position. He might not score/create chances, but he shouldn't actually cost you the game. Picking a centre-half or a full back before they are ready can be a very risky business because they really can cost you the game. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Apr 2043. 

Liga Bwin. It's a good month with just 2 points dropped, but those 2 dropped points mean that we're 4th rather than 3rd with 3 games still to play. 

UEFA Europa League. We were comfortable in the Quarters against Bordeaux and should have won the 1st leg against Espanyol with ease. We might just be up against it in the 2nd leg after spurning a few chances. 

Goal-scoring GK's. 

Finances.   

[Sonic Youth]

26 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

I'm not even sure where I would find that information, (average attributes for full backs). Let me have a look....

I think I have found it, but can only group by defenders rather than full backs, (so let me know if this isn't what you mean). 

Positioning. Our average positioning is 14.27 across all defenders in the senior squad. This might be skewed by me having more full backs in the squad than centre-backs, (with full backs needing positioning more than centre-backs). We have the best average positioning attribute. The average in the league is 12.85. 

Marking. Our average positioning is 12.73 across all defenders in the senior squad. The best is Benfica at 13:00 and the average across the league 11.86.

 

This is fine. I was wondering how much he’d need to improve his positioning by to become at least average. He looks like he’ll be on the lower end for your defenders if he was to turn into a fullback. Same with marking.

What do you see him playing as?

Thanks for posting this 

[Sonic Youth]

3 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Apr 2043. 

Liga Bwin. It's a good month with just 2 points dropped, but those 2 dropped points mean that we're 4th rather than 3rd with 3 games still to play. 

UEFA Europa League. We were comfortable in the Quarters against Bordeaux and should have won the 1st leg against Espanyol with ease. We might just be up against it in the 2nd leg after spurning a few chances. 

Goal-scoring GK's. 

Finances.   

Sporting sneaking in through your draws!

May is shaping up to be a big month.

[Jimbokav1971]

5 minutes ago, Sonic Youth said:

This is fine. I was wondering how much he’d need to improve his positioning by to become at least average. He looks like he’ll be on the lower end for your defenders if he was to turn into a fullback. Same with marking.

What do you see him playing as?

Thanks for posting this 

I think I see him as a wide attacker. At the moment he can play on the right, (inverted as a lefty), and although there is a cost in terms of CA of having a player play on both sides, but now that the B Team is playable and I can select which players play where I will be playing him on both flanks just so he becomes more adept on the left. 

 

[Jimbokav1971]

8 minutes ago, Sonic Youth said:

Sporting sneaking in through your draws!

May is shaping up to be a big month.

You know, I hadn't actually realised Sporting had jumped above us. I thought it was still Guimaraes. 

[Jimbokav1971]

May 2043. 

Liga Bwin. We tried as best we could in the league, but fatigue seemed to catch up with the squad this month and we had key players missing through injury and suspension and we were just a tiny bit short of where we needed to be. 

We lost 2 games fewer than both Sporting and Guimaraes, but we drew FAR too many games and this cost us. We also scored 20 goals fewer than Guimaraes and that's where our real problem is. We finished in Europe though, and although it says we've qualified for the Europa Conference, I think we have actually qualified for the Europa Cup, (because PdF play Benfica in the Final and I can't see anything other than a Benfica win). Assuming Benfica win, then we will go into the Europa Cup and Braga will go into the Europa Conference. 

xG watch. 
Guimaraes 1.10 - 1.24 Belenenses. 
Belenenses 0.65 - 0.28 Sporting.
Estoril 1.13 - 0.90 Sporting. 

UEFA Europa League. It was actually quite a straight-forward campaign and any idea that we might have made things too easy in the set-up of the database and the lack of active Nations, was dispelled as we beat not 1 but 2 Spanish sides who play in an active structure, (which is pleasing). The other thing of course is that while Spanish sides have won this trophy on 9 of the 21 times it has been played in this save, Porto, Sporting, (and more recently PdF), have all got to the Final only to lose at the last hurdle, so we also become the 1st Portugese side to win this during the save, (which is a surprise). We won the Europa Conference at the 3rd attempt, (losing 2 Finals), so it was nice to win this at the 1st attempt. I almost played this game myself, but at the last minute opted to stick with the IR button and my Ass Man did me proud. 

The kicker of course is that as a result of winning the Europa League, we will go into the Champions League next season. 

Goal-scoring GK's. Frustratingly, the career figures are wrong because I think the game gets confused when players move from Parent Team to B Team. 

 (31g) Simões (POR) 6'1" is correct at 31 career goals but (36d) Cardone (ITA) 6'1" * is showing as 17 but he's actually scored 20. 

They both scored 6 goals this season, but where as (36d) Cardone (ITA) 6'1" * was 4/4 from the spot + 2 free-kicks, (31g) Simões (POR) 6'1" was only 5/7 from the spot + 1 free-kick. 

(31g) Simões (POR) 6'1" was very much 1st choice though and (36d) Cardone (ITA) 6'1" * largely played in Europe & the Cups as well as covering in the league on occasion. 

I quite like that a back-up GK still makes 13 senior appearances. 

Finances.   

Squad by Appearances. 

Summary. Considering we got to the Final of the Europa Cup, when up until now our only really significant progress in Europe had been in the Europa Conference, (3 Finals, winning 1), the performance in the league was decent. Especially so when you consider that we still haven't managed to resolve our on-going issue with our miss-firing strikers. 

(32g) Ramos (POR) did ok I suppose, scoring 15 goals from 39(1) appearances in all competitions, but only 9 of them were in the league from 29 appearances. 1 in 3 might be ok in real life. It's not ok in FM22. The problem is that he's still the best striker we have and I can't go out and by someone.

(36e) Pisco (POR) * grew into the 2nd striker role and I think he did ok, (9 goals and 6 assists in 38(1) appearances), even if his numbers aren't great. He is certainly an improvement on (27a) Mateus (POR) SELL who was sold to Leixões SC and only managed 1 goal in 13(11) Liga Bwin appearances this season. 

(39d) Rebelo (POR) * was the real surprise for me though. 2nd choice AF behind (32g) Ramos (POR), he scored 10 goals in just 14(7) appearances. Granted they were in the European Group stage and the early rounds of the Cups, but he got the job done nicely and it obviously allowed me to rest (32g) Ramos (POR), so that's actually a significant development. 

There isn't really a 4th striker of note worth mentioning at this time. 

The U19's finished top of the U19 First Division, before losing in the Semi of the Italian Youth Invitational, (after winning it for the previous 3 seasons). They then went on to win the Championship Group for the 3rd successive season.

The U23's won the U23 Premier League South and then the U23 Premier League Championship, but crashed out at the Q.Final stage of the Taça Revelação Sub-23. 

The B Team won Campeonato Nacional Group F, and then Campeonato Promotion Stage, but I let the Ass Man pick the team in the Champions Playoff Final and it proved to be a HUGE mistake. 

So all in all a pretty successful season. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Facilities. May 2043. 

I was stumped for a little while as to what was going on here. Didn't we already have a grass pitch? This is actually the B Team pitch so that's fine. 

Downgrade. The training Facilities have been downgraded, but they still show as 20 so not sure what's going on here. 

Finances. The board have injected £4.5M to help with running costs, but we have  in the bank. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Affiliates. Jun 2043. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Rankings. Jun 2043. 

European Competition rankings. 

Nations club coefficients. All we have to do this season is equal the performance of the German clubs and we will pass them next season. 

Qualification places. Breaking into the top 4 will be big for Portugese clubs, but we will need to perform next for the next few seasons because we out-performed the German clubs in 2039/40 and 2040/41 so they will have the advantage again. 

European club rankings. We're ranked 19th, but next season I expect another jump because we will be getting rid of the 2038/39 score. 

Recent European performances by Portugese clubs. 

Porto have had a torrid time in the last 5 years. Starting in the Champions League Group Stage on each occasion they have only qualified from the Group once, and only once progressed past the 2nd Knockout Round of the Europa League after dropping down. 

Porto. 2042/43. Europa League 2nd Knockout Round. 
Porto. 2041/42. Champions League 1st Knockout Round.
Porto. 2040/41. Europa League 2nd Knockout Round. 
Porto. 2039/40. Europa League 2nd Knockout Round. 
Porto. 2038/39. Europa League Quarter Final. 

Benfica have qualified from their Group 4 of the last 5 years. but losing in the 1st Knockout Round suggests they might be finishing 2nd in their group. 

Benfica. 2042/43. Champions League 1st Knockout Round. 
Benfica. 2041/42. Champions League 1st Knockout Round. 
Benfica. 2040/41. Champions League 1st Knockout Round. 
Benfica. 2039/40. Champions League 1st Knockout Round. 
Benfica. 2038/39. Champions League Group Stage. 

Sporting won the Europa Conference 3 years ago. 

Sporting. 2042/43. Europa Conference 2nd Knockout Round. 
Sporting. 2041/42. Europa League 1st Knockout Round. 
Sporting. 2040/41. Europa Conference Champions. 
Sporting. 2039/40. No games. 
Sporting. 2038/39. Champions League 1st Knockout Round. 

Vitória de Guimarães have made a Semi-Final and a Quarter-Final in the last 5 seasons. 

Vitória de Guimarães. 2042/43. Europa League 1st Knockout Round. 
Vitória de Guimarães. 2041/42. No games. 
Vitória de Guimarães. 2040/41. Europa Conference Semi-Final.
Vitória de Guimarães. 2039/40. No games. 
Vitória de Guimarães. 2038/39. Europa League Quarter Final. 

Belenenses have been Champions and got top the Quarter-Final of the Europa League. 

Belenenses. 2042/43. Europa League Champions. 
Belenenses. 2041/42. Europa Conference 2nd Knockout Round. 
Belenenses. 2040/41. Europa League 2nd Knockout Round. 
Belenenses. 2039/40. Europa League Quarter-Final. 
Belenenses. 2038/39. Europa Conference 4th Qual Round. 

We need to start getting deep into the Champions League. Let's see how tough it is next season before we make any grand claims though. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Compensation. Jun 2043. 

He's only been with us about a year, so £1.4M for him is decent, (especially when you consider that the only intake he was in charge of was pretty ropey). 

[Rikulec]

Congratulations on the Europa League win!

[Sonic Youth]

A lot happening…

First, congrats on winning Europa League 

Champions League football next season 

Winning the Europa League seemed to affect your league form. It does look great in your co-efficient column 

Youth and B teams did well again with lots of goals scored. Any of those top scorers worth the fourth first team striker spot?

It would have been good to get at least a second or third season with ex-HoYD Bruno Rato but £1.4m is reasonable remuneration. Another search unlocked!

Looks like your getting lots of tweaks to your facilities, though getting a message for a downgrade without the downgrade is a weird one 

Good season  

Edited April 6, 2022 by Sonic Youth
Rayo?

[ucdark]

Nice job winning EL, who's your rival for the Supercup?

 

[Jimbokav1971]

7 hours ago, Rikulec said:

Congratulations on the Europa League win!

Thanks. It was all pretty comfortable in the end. 

[Jimbokav1971]

6 hours ago, Sonic Youth said:

A lot happening…

First, congrats on winning Europa League 

Champions League football next season 

Winning the Europa League seemed to affect your league form. It does look great in your co-efficient column 

Youth and B teams did well again with lots of goals scored. Any of those top scorers worth the fourth first team striker spot?

It would have been good to get at least a second or third season with ex-HoYD Bruno Rato but £1.4m is reasonable remuneration. Another search unlocked!

Looks like your getting lots of tweaks to your facilities, though getting a message for a downgrade without the downgrade is a weird one 

Good season  

Thanks. I'm pleasantly surprised with the Europa Cup win. Wasn't expecting it at all at the start of the season. 

Champions League football next season is great, but I have a feeling that it might not last very long. That being said, the money is much needed because I have started to extend contracts and it's proving costly. Our coefficient does indeed look nice, and it will look even better once we get rid of the season when we crashed out early in qualifying. 

Development of strikers is an on-going issue. 

Next season I think the main starting duo in the league will be (32g) Ramos (POR) and (36e) Pisco (POR) * again. It's not great, but it's not awful either. 

The 2nd pairing will be (39d) Rebelo (POR) * and someone. There really isn't a stand-out candidate at the moment. he did well when called upon last season so I'm happy to give him another go this season. 

(30a) Bernardino (POR)(B Team) is a lefty and has spent the last 2 seasons in league 2. I've ear-marked him to play for the B Team from now on. 

17 year old (41g) Amaral (POR) * will probably be given the 1st opportunity as 4th striker after a good season for the U19's last season. It's possibly too early for him but I think we need to invest playing time in young players to boost their development. 

21 year old (38a) Hartmann (POR) (GER) * went out on loan last season and scored 25 goals, but it was in a non-playable league so I think we can take that with a pinch of salt. That being said, 20 goals is 20 goals and I see him as a 2nd striker anyway, (despite him being a lefty). 

19 yea old (39a) Moreira (POR) * is a player that keeps catching my eye and I'm sure he will be given time this season. He went out on loan to a team who got relegated from Liga Bwin last season, and I think that's pretty good playing time at a decent level for a teenager. Although he's a lefty, I again see him as a 2nd striker, but I have issues with playing a lefty up front on the right. Whether I get over that or not will largely depend on how many goals he scores and if he doesn't score then I will probably blame it on him being a lefty before anything else. 

I thought our intake was poor last season, so I don't mind that the HoYD has been poached. I just have to appoint someone else now. I will probably offer this bloke the job if he;s still available when Bruno leaves. 

All in all I'm really happy with last season. We now the problems we have up front but I think we did ok in that area, (if still lots of room for improvement). I managed to secure some of our best players to longer contracts and there was some really good development in our younger players. We qualified for the Europa League even without qualifying for the Champions League via winning the trophy and I'm happy with that. If as expected we crash out of the Champions league earlier this season, it might help is in the league in the 2nd half of the season. My target is probably to finish 3rd in the Group and have another pop at the Europa League. 

[Jimbokav1971]

4 hours ago, ucdark said:

Nice job winning EL, who's your rival for the Supercup?

 

PSG won the Champions League last season after beating Dortmund in the Final and Liverpool, Chelsea & Barca en route to the Final. (I REALLY don't like PSG so let's see what we can do). 

Liverpool have probably been the most successful team in the save. They have made 9 of the 22 Champions League Finals in this save, winning 5 of them. 

R.Madrid have won x5.

Man City have won x4

Although no Portugese side has won the title, Benfica made the Final in 2035/36. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Goalkeepers. 2043.

I meant to post this last season, but kept forgetting. 

(31g) Simões (POR) 6'1" is the 1st choice GK and I'm very happy with him.

(36d) Cardone (ITA) 6'1" * is a more than adequate back-up. 

The player that has gone under the radar however is (33d) Diederich (POR)(LUX) 6'2 who has never really featured in my fans because he has always been behind the other 2. He went on loan to Sporting last season and helped them to a 3rd placed finish. I wouldn't mind him going again for another season, but maybe we would be better served by sending him somewhere else and making them find another GK. 

[Thebaker]

Well done on the europa league, it seems to me to take a while for the editor to realise facilities have changed so the downgrade may show up in a few weeks time although the description usually changes immediately

[Jimbokav1971]

12 hours ago, Thebaker said:

Well done on the europa league, it seems to me to take a while for the editor to realise facilities have changed so the downgrade may show up in a few weeks time although the description usually changes immediately

Thanks. I will keep an eye on it then. 

[Jimbokav1971]

On 02/04/2022 at 18:24, Jimbokav1971 said:

Poaching, (and not in a good way). Jun 2042. 

I'm pretty sure that this is the 1st player we have had poached, (or poached ourselves), in the save so far. It's a feature I really like and has been conspicuous by it's absence until now. 

[Edit] 

Poached again. Aug 2043. 

We go 20+ years without a single player poached either by us or from us, and now wee have 2 in just over 1 year. This player isn't a problem being poached, (because he's not very good), but it's not the point. Tondela and Sport União Sintrense are significantly below us by reputation, so how is this happening?

A club with a lower reputation shouldn't be able to poach a player from a club with a higher reputation. 

Tondela are the lowest reputation team of the Liga Bwin sides and Sport União Sintrense are 17th of 18 Liga 2 sides. 

Our reputation is 7,427.
Tondela is 5,497
Sport União Sintrense is 5,231

If we lose a good player through this I'm going to have the right hump. 

 

[Jimbokav1971]

Aug 2043. 

Liga Bwin.  Really surprised with this start. We've hit the ground running. A really good performance against Sporting, but our defence is looking decent so far. In other news, Porto, Benfica and Sporting have already lost a game in the league while we have never started this well. 

xG watch.
Nacional 0.91 - 1.77 Belenenses.
Belenenses 2.02 - 0.45 Porto. 
Famalicao 0.13 - 2.19 Belenenses.
Guimaraes 1.15 - 1.48 Belenenses.
Belenenses 1.64 - 0.77 Estoril. 

UEFA Super Cup. Pleasantly surprised to win this one. 

Taça da Liga Allianz Cup.

Champions League. I think this is a pretty decent group. Arsenal will obviously be tough, but Standard Liege should be beatable and hopefully we can get close to OM. 

Goal-scoring GK's. No GK goals this month. 

Finances.   

Edited April 7, 2022 by Jimbokav1971

[ucdark]

Awesome win over P$G !!

[Sonic Youth]

Nice start! A cup win and unbeaten 

[Jimbokav1971]

3 hours ago, ucdark said:

Awesome win over P$G !!

Yep. Very happy indeed with that. 

[Jimbokav1971]

24 minutes ago, Sonic Youth said:

Nice start! A cup win and unbeaten 

It's by far our best start to a league campaign. 

We're still not scoring goals as fluently as I would like, but things are quite tight at the back. 

1 possible problem I can see is that our starting centre-backs are 33 year old (25j) Grilo (POR) 6'4" *, (who is leaving on a free at the end of the season), and 29 year old (30g) Coelho (POR) 6'4" *, (who obviously has seen better days). 

Our 2 weakest positions are centre-half and striker, but where I have been working hard to bring through strikers...... there seems very little to work with at centre-half. 

I should point out that (40a) Sérgio (POR) * is 5'7" and not a centre-half and although (42b) Felizardo (POR) 5'10" * is also not a centre-half, I have just changed his training to try and make him into a make-shift centre0half. We're going to need him and we have loads of central midfielders. 

[Sonic Youth]

44 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

It's by far our best start to a league campaign. 

We're still not scoring goals as fluently as I would like, but things are quite tight at the back. 

1 possible problem I can see is that our starting centre-backs are 33 year old (25j) Grilo (POR) 6'4" *, (who is leaving on a free at the end of the season), and 29 year old (30g) Coelho (POR) 6'4" *, (who obviously has seen better days). 

Our 2 weakest positions are centre-half and striker, but where I have been working hard to bring through strikers...... there seems very little to work with at centre-half. 

I should point out that (40a) Sérgio (POR) * is 5'7" and not a centre-half and although (42b) Felizardo (POR) 5'10" * is also not a centre-half, I have just changed his training to try and make him into a make-shift centre0half. We're going to need him and we have loads of central midfielders. 

I didn’t want to mention the goals scored, and kept it positive with the good start. Benfica and Porto definitely the benchmark with that so far with the caveat of being a little leaky. Still early for all though.

Yes, DC is a position you don’t want to be caught short on (points at Liverpool and Man City when they had injuries all at once there). I’m guessing Felizardo will be getting lots of available minutes this season to help turn him into a Canavaro DC.

[Thebaker]

If you are short at CB, perhaps you should have given the job of HOY to someone who plays 5 at the back as their preferred formation. Not sure if that might encourage them to bring through more CB's but i would think its possible. Same with strikers get in a person who plays with 3 up front.

[Jimbokav1971]

4 hours ago, Sonic Youth said:

I didn’t want to mention the goals scored, and kept it positive with the good start. Benfica and Porto definitely the benchmark with that so far with the caveat of being a little leaky. Still early for all though.

Yes, DC is a position you don’t want to be caught short on (points at Liverpool and Man City when they had injuries all at once there). I’m guessing Felizardo will be getting lots of available minutes this season to help turn him into a Canavaro DC.

(32g) Ramos (POR) scored in the 1st 4 games of the season so I'm delighted with that. 

(36e) Pisco (POR) * also off the mark in the 1st month so I'm happy with that too. Let's not run before we can walk eh. 

With regards to (36e) Pisco (POR) *, I'm not actually going to throw him straight in because I don't want to hinder any potential progress we're making. I have a 1st choice pairing of (25j) Grilo (POR) 6'4" * and (30g) Coelho (POR) 6'4" *, and then I have the next pairing of (32a) Gaspar (POR) (ANG) 6'4" and (35f) Azevedo 6'2". After that I have (37i) Pereira (POR) * 6'1" and (42b) Felizardo (POR) 5'10" * who will only feature when I don't care about a game, or when we have at least 2 players out injured. They will both mainly be used from bench although may get some European/Cup time. 

[Jimbokav1971]

48 minutes ago, Thebaker said:

If you are short at CB, perhaps you should have given the job of HOY to someone who plays 5 at the back as their preferred formation. Not sure if that might encourage them to bring through more CB's but i would think its possible. Same with strikers get in a person who plays with 3 up front.

That's a really good shout actually and I'm glad you mentioned it. 

When we lost the last HoYD, (Bruno I think his name was), I had arranged to sign someone, but before I could get the deal done the DoF had come in and signed someone else, (because the job is delegated to him). It turns out that this was the guy he recruited. 

The problem with recruiting someone who plays 5 at the back is that it encourages them to bring in WB's who can't defend and also invariably means that we get no wingers and central attacking players, (that we don't use), instead. It also often limits the number of strikers we get through. We play 442 and I like that the 2nd option is 433DM wide. 

Although this is FAR from an exact science, I see his attributes and I think they are quite balanced, (with the exception of GK's which seems a complete law unto itself). Att 15, Def 15 Men 15 Tac 15 Tech 10 Fit 8. 

I would expect to see players come through with low Technicals and even lower Physicals, but ok in other areas. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Sep 2043. 

Liga Bwin. The old problems of being unable to score have reared their head again, but actually I'm quite comfortable with how things are going. We are 1 of only 2 unbeaten sides in the league and we have played both Porto and Sporting already. We've also kept 7 clean sheets in just 8 games, conceding just 1 goal in the other. The other unbeaten side are Estoril, and I don't expect them to continue their early season form. Our 1st choice left winger (32c) Tomás (POR) * has already been sent off twice in the league this season, (and we didn't lose either game), but what might be significant is that he was suspended for both the Sporting and Porto games. With that in mind I might consider giving (32b) Moucheira (POR) more game-time in the league games, (although he has featured in every Liga Bwin game so far at some point). 

xG watch. Obviously happy with how this is going, even if we are not quite making the most of it in terms of taking our changed
Gil Vicente 1.33 - 2.29 Belenenses. 
Belenenses 1.98 - 0.06 Porto. We absolutely battered Porto and it was probably the best performance so far under my tenure.
Belenenses 1.45 - 0.25 PdF. 

UEFA Champions League. Our 2nd string have found it tough going in Europe. The step up from Europa League to Champions League has been significant and they haven't been helped by some below-par performances in goal by (36d) Cardone (ITA) 6'1" *. I think I caused this indirectly by making him available for the B Team in Liga 3, and this knocked his confidence.

Taça da Liga Allianz Cup. Our 2nd string got turned over by top of Liga 2. I wasn't impressed. 

Goal-scoring GK's. 

Finances.   

Edited April 8, 2022 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

Oct 2043. 

Liga Bwin. Our unbeaten run in the league is over, and I'm starting to worry just a tiny bit. (32g) Ramos (POR) scored 4 goals in August, but has blanked all the way through September and October. He's only hit 7 of 21 shots on target in the league since his last goal, (9 games), and that's just not good enough. I've had a talk for him and told him he needs to improve. 

xG watch.
Maritimo 0.27 - 2.19 Belenenses. GK (36d) Cardone (ITA) 6'1" * put his penalty over the bar, (don't see that very often), so that doesn't help our scoring rate. 
Braga 2.26 - 1.28 Belenenses. We were well beaten for our 1st loss of the league campaign. 
Belenenses 2.32 - 2.20 Benfica. We were good in this game and edged the xG, but Benfica were clinical and ran out convincing winners. 

UEFA Champions League. The aim is to finish 3rd in the league, and with our home game against the the Belgians still to come we're on track. 

Taça de Portugal Placard. A comfortable win by the 2nd team against a lower league side. 

Goal-scoring GK's. 

 

Finances.   

[Rikulec]

From what I see you seem to often underperform your xG, although maybe I'm wrong and it's just a feeling I'm getting while skimming through the updates. What do you think could be the reasons for that?

[Jimbokav1971]

48 minutes ago, Rikulec said:

From what I see you seem to often underperform your xG, although maybe I'm wrong and it's just a feeling I'm getting while skimming through the updates. What do you think could be the reasons for that?

We are absolutely under-performing compared to XG. The she simple fact is that we're not good enough up front. We're creating chances but not taking them. 

Our main goal threat is (32g) Ramos (POR) and while he has scored 21 & 19 league goals in a season at this level before, we weren't as good a team then and we were conceding shedloads of goals ourselves. Now we are MUCH stronger and the way other teams approach us is different. We are one of the big boys. We've made 4 European Finals and won 2 of them. We are a big team. The problem with that is that our strikers aren't good enough to score with the opposition taking a more defensive approach to us. 

This is (32g) Ramos (POR). His CA 134 is and his PA is 134.

Let's compare him to 1 striker at each of the othe rPortugese clubs. 

Benfica have a striker called Mark Wilson who is 33 years old and has a CA of 151 and a PA of 159.

Porto have my nemesis Ashton Hughes. He has a CA of 149 a and a PA of 152.

Sporting have Stephen Gold. He has a CA of 152 and a PA of 177.

Guimarães have got Kevin Romero. He has a CA 156 of and a PA of 171.

These are just 1 player from each of the Big 3 and they each have about 3-4 of these type of players up front. I picked these 3 because they have scored so many goals against us over the years. The truth is that we just don't have anywhere near the quality they do and the gap between Ramos and his maxed out 134 CA and their 151, 149, 152, 156 CA, (that isn't maxed out now), is enormous. 

We have 1 striker with a PA of 150+, but there is no guarantee that he will ever reach that level, (I don't think he will). 

I can't go out and just buy someone so there isn't an easy solution. 

[BristolCity1992]

Well done! Good read, though I skipped the last ten pages as I have actual books to read and wanted to see where you were. :P 

I have loved playing in Portugal as Braga. Took 10 +years, but we are finally dominant. Just chasing that elusive Champions League. You're doing great just keep grinding away and it will come. 

 

Edited April 9, 2022 by BristolCity1992

[Jimbokav1971]

1 hour ago, BristolCity1992 said:

Well done! Good read, though I skipped the last ten pages as I have actual books to read and wanted to see where you were. :P 

I have loved playing in Portugal as Braga. Took 10 +years, but we are finally dominant. Just chasing that elusive Champions League. You're doing great just keep grinding away and it will come. 

 

Haha. Thanks, (I think). Any good books to suggest or real life things that you would recommend? 

[Rikulec]

3 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

We are absolutely under-performing compared to XG. The she simple fact is that we're not good enough up front. We're creating chances but not taking them. 

Our main goal threat is (32g) Ramos (POR) and while he has scored 21 & 19 league goals in a season at this level before, we weren't as good a team then and we were conceding shedloads of goals ourselves. Now we are MUCH stronger and the way other teams approach us is different. We are one of the big boys. We've made 4 European Finals and won 2 of them. We are a big team. The problem with that is that our strikers aren't good enough to score with the opposition taking a more defensive approach to us. 

This is (32g) Ramos (POR). His CA 134 is and his PA is 134.

Let's compare him to 1 striker at each of the othe rPortugese clubs. 

Benfica have a striker called Mark Wilson who is 33 years old and has a CA of 151 and a PA of 159.

Porto have my nemesis Ashton Hughes. He has a CA of 149 a and a PA of 152.

Sporting have Stephen Gold. He has a CA of 152 and a PA of 177.

Guimarães have got Kevin Romero. He has a CA 156 of and a PA of 171.

These are just 1 player from each of the Big 3 and they each have about 3-4 of these type of players up front. I picked these 3 because they have scored so many goals against us over the years. The truth is that we just don't have anywhere near the quality they do and the gap between Ramos and his maxed out 134 CA and their 151, 149, 152, 156 CA, (that isn't maxed out now), is enormous. 

We have 1 striker with a PA of 150+, but there is no guarantee that he will ever reach that level, (I don't think he will). 

I can't go out and just buy someone so there isn't an easy solution. 

Good post. I was thinking that maybe you've noticed a tactical pattern, maybe some repeating type of chance that you often create and miss, which would in turn suggest a need for some adjustments that would change your playing style a bit and maybe even start scoring more while creating a bit less.

[Thebaker]

Moreira stands a chance of making that PA, he is only 20 and has a positive personality. Players do seem to improve for longer this year. Are there any young high PA players you could convert to a striker?

[Jimbokav1971]

1 hour ago, Rikulec said:

Good post. I was thinking that maybe you've noticed a tactical pattern, maybe some repeating type of chance that you often create and miss, which would in turn suggest a need for some adjustments that would change your playing style a bit and maybe even start scoring more while creating a bit less.

I could start slowing down and really delving into things, but my motto within FM nowadays is small and gradual progression and as long as I think I'm taking little steps forward, (no matter how small), I'm fine with that. Any tactical tweaks will have to come when I don't think we're making progress and I feel I have to make more of an effort to do things. 

At the moment the main way in which I'm making more of an effort is over-hauling the staff at the club. That's obviously only going to have long-term benefits if any, but it's sort of the way I play the game nowadays. 

I fiddle around with roles and especially individual roles for players within the overall tactic, and the following info certainly gives me food for thought, but I'm not actually playing at the moment so I will have to keep this on the back-burner and come back to it, (because I'm not sure what it tells me at the moment). 

We lead the league in dribbles, (by our full backs). 
We have a player bossing key passes. 
Ramos actually takes a decent number of shots but not enough of them are on target and he obviously doesn't score enough. 
Ramos is also offside too much. 

 

[Jimbokav1971]

7 hours ago, Thebaker said:

Moreira stands a chance of making that PA, he is only 20 and has a positive personality. Players do seem to improve for longer this year. Are there any young high PA players you could convert to a striker?

This is everyone at the club ranked by actual PA. 

(35a) Paulo Júnior (POR) * is our 1st choice DLP and a regular for the (POR) National side. 
(40a) Sérgio (POR) * is the 2nd choice BBM(s)
(36d) Cardone (ITA) 6'1" * is our 2nd choice GK. 
(40b) Ramalho (POR) * is the 1st choice BBM(s)
(41a) Gil (POR) * is the 2nd choice DR, (who also covers MR).
(39a) Moreira (POR) * is currently on loan at AC Milan, (yes really), but I think he will be playing a part next season. 

(31g) Simões (POR) 6'1" is the 1st choice GK.
(36a) Cruz (POR) * is the 2nd choice DLP. 
(36c) Mussagi (POR) (MOZ) * is the 1st choice DR. 
(36b) Sousa (POR) * is the 2nd choice DL. 
(36e) Pisco (POR) * is the 1st choice 2nd striker. 
(32c) Tomás (POR) * is the 1st choice ML. 
(42b) Felizardo (POR) 5'10" * is a MC who I am re-training to play at DC. 
(40c) Teixeira (POR) * is a young GK. 
(38b) Gaivoto (POR) * is a MC on the fringes of the squad. 
(38d) Embalo (GNB) (POR) * is on the fringes of the squad now. 

(42d) Poejo (POR) is a decent looking young MC who is going to find it hard to break into the senior squad but who doesn't have the ability to play up front. 
(39c) Salgueiro (POR) is anothe rplayer on loan at AC Milan, (I didn't realise that). He's not got the ability to re-train as a striker. 

So in answer to your question.... no, I'm afraid not. 

[Jimbokav1971]

@Rikulechas got me thinking about what (32g) Ramos (POR) is good at and what he's not good at. 

He's not amazing. There is just no getting away from that, but he is the best we have and we just need to accept that. 

He scored 19 and 21 league goals 4 and 5 seasons ago, but has only scored 6, 12 and 9 in the last 3 seasons so something is obviously not working. 

I'm a big fan of PPM's, but I'm not convinced by some of these and I'm not sure why they are there or how long they have been there. 

I'm not overly keen on this one. I usually prefer my AF's to run through the middle. It's possible that he came through the intake with this, because it's certainly not one that I would have wanted to see added. 

I'm also not keen on this one. I don't mind it as a 2nd striker PPM, (in fact I quite like it), but I don't want my AF doing this. I just want him finishing. I wonder how long this has been there? 

I really like this PPM for my AF's. 

I'm very happy to have him have this PPM too. 

So let me go back through this thread and see what I can see he was like when he came through the intake and when he learned these PPM's. I think that they play an enormous role in player performance and before I move on I need to decide on what part they are playing in his current form. 

This is what he looked like the day he came through the intake, and I'm astonished to report that he didn't have either of the top 2 PPM's. (I can't believe that I have allowed/encouraged him to train these). 

This is him on Youth Intake Day 2033, (still with no PPM's). I'm also not training him in any PPM at this stage. 

This is him on Youth Intake day 2034, (still with no PPM's). I'm training him to go round the GK. 

He went out on loan in 2034/35 and scored 14 goals in 17(7) appearances in the 4th tier. 

This is him on Youth Intake day 2035. He's on loan at CD Pinhalnovense in the 4th tier and still has no PPM's, (although I can't see if he's learning anything while on loan). 

I haven't got a save from Youth Intake day 2036, and Apr 2036 is the best I can do. He's back at the club after his loan spell and he still doesn't have any PPM's. I'm surprised to see that I am training him in the following PM, but this doesn't lie.  I have no idea what my though process was, but it's there in black and white, (and green). 

He scored 15 goals in 28(1) Liga Bwin appearances in 2036/37.

I haven't got a save from Youth Intake day 2037, and Apr 2037 is the best I can do. He has now learned the "runs with ball down left PPM", (even if I can't remember doing it or understand why I would). He's not currently learning a new PPM. 

He scored 14 goals in 29 Liga Bwin appearances in 2037/38. 

This is him on Youth Intake day 2038. He has now also learned the "runs with ball often" PPM, and I'm teaching him to move into channels.  Why? 

He scored 21 goals in 32(1) appearances in 2038/39. 

This is him on Youth Intake day 2039. He's added "moves into channels" and "likes to round keepers" as PPM's 

Despite learning those 3rd and 4th PPM's, he scores 19 goals in 23(1) Liga Bwin appearances, (and also scored 11 more in 11 European and Cup games). I was hoping that I could blame the drop-off in scoring on either PPM's or personality, but it would appear that neither is actually the case and it must be something else. 

Here he is on Youth Intake day 2040. He hasn't learned a new PPM and isn't currently in the process of learning one either. 

He scored just 6 goals in 29(1) appearances. 

This is him on Youth Intake day 2041. He hasn't learned a new PPM and isn't currently in the process of learning one either. 

He scored 12 goals in 26(4) appearances. 

I haven't got a save on Youth Intake day 2042 and the best I can do is Apr 2042. 

He scored 9 goals in 29 appearances. 

I haven't got a save from Youth Intake day 2042, and Apr 2042 is the best I can do. 

Something that has caught my eye is the way his personality has changed throughout his career. Not really happy about this at all. 

2032 (F.Amb)
2033 (F.Amb)
2034 (F.Amb)
2035 (F.Pro) 
2036 (Perfect) 
2037 (Perfect)
2038 (Bal) 
2039 (Bal)
2040 (Bal)
2041 (Bal)
2042 (Bal)

So I think I have ruled out PPM's and personality changes as causes of this. 

This is a little worrying. 

He averages 2.56 shots per 90 mins. 
But he also gets only 35.71% of his shots on target.
35.71% of 2.56 shots is 0.91, so he's averaging less than 1 shot on target per 90, so it's no real surprise that he's not scoring more. 

As a club we're the only club in the "low scoring/high quality shooting" quadrant. 

Our expected goal per game is the 3rd highest in the league, (at almost 2), but we're converting less than 1 per game. 

There's loads of info here, but I'm not sure I've got any conclusions. Does anyone see anything obvious jumping out at them?