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My 5-3-2 counter tactic - any advice?


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I use this tactic when we're playing a good team (Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig) advice is appreciated :)

Balanced Mentality

TI'S In Possession: Pass Into Space, Higher Tempo, Narrow

TI'S In Transition: Counter

TI'S Out of Possession: Lower LOE, Use Offside Trap

Roles and duties:

SK (DE)

WB (AT) CD (DE) CD (DE) CD (DE) WB (SU)

        CAR (SU)   CM (DE)   CAR (SU)

              AF (AT)  DLF (AT)

Any help is welcome 👍

 

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I would:

- change the RWB's duty into support (because there is no reason for him to be on a more attacking duty than his counterpart on the opposite flank)

- remove the offside trap

- would be also wary of using carrileros on both sides, given that the formation is without a DM (at least one of them could be changed into a BMW on support or DLP on support, preferably the one in MCL)

For starters. 

Then other potential tweaks would be made if necessary based on observations during a given match.

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Seeing the feedback, this is what I'll change it to.

TI'S In Possession: Pass Into Space, Higher Tempo, Narrow

TI'S In Transition: Counter

TI'S Out of Possession: Lower LOE, Force Opposition Outside

Roles and duties:

SK (DE)

WB (SU) CD (DE) CD (DE) CD (DE) WB (SU)

        CAR (SU)   CM (DE)   DLP (SU)

              AF (AT)  DLF (AT)

Thanks for the help and I will test this next game against a better team I have :)

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7 hours ago, Experienced Defender said:

- would be also wary of using carrileros on both sides, given that the formation is without a DM (at least one of them could be changed into a BMW on support or DLP on support, preferably the one in MCL)

 

In order to have an additional "holding" midfielder with the CM/d? Or because of the lateral gaps left by the carrileros' "stay wider" setting? On the left side of the midfield because of the DLF/a playing in the STCL position? 

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2 minutes ago, Prolix said:

In order to have an additional "holding" midfielder with the CM/d?

BWM on support duty is not a holding midfielder. The DLP is, but in the overall context of the OP's tactic can make sense (in case he wants to have a playmaker in the midfield). Because even though it is a holding role, it's played on support duty, which means a higher individual mentality than the CM on defend in the middle. 

 

5 minutes ago, Prolix said:

Or because of the lateral gaps left by the carrileros' "stay wider" setting?

Exactly :thup: 

 

6 minutes ago, Prolix said:

On the left side of the midfield because of the DLF/a playing in the STCL position? 

Yep :thup: 

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