Saint_Lane Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 [/url] Welcome To The FM15 Thread - FC Nantes FC Nantes Club Logo - Currently playing in Ligue 1 - The top tier of the French National League. INTRODUCTION Despite being a team rich in history with an avid and loyal group of supporters Nantes return to the top tier of French football last season was certainly eventful and not for the feint hearted. With highs & lows both on and off the field, the FC Nantes soap opera is sure to continue in 2015 & they are anything but a dull choice in this years edition of Football Manager. After a successful season finishing 13th in Ligue 1, followers were treated to winless baron spells casting the shadow of relegation & resolute performances at the tail end of the season launching les Jaunes et Verts up the table. The tone was set at the start of the season when Nantes fielded an illegible player in 2-0 victory over Bastia. Chaos ensued. Allegations, fiascos, point deductions, off field legal battles and eventually a transfer embargo. In this edition of FM, Nantes have a massive challenge ahead of them. A transfer embargo. No Djordevic & the fear of relegation? WHO ARE FC NANTES? FC Nantes are one of France's historical powerhouses. Famous for it's jeu à la nantaise (Nantes Style Football) of high pace attacking football, Nantes have won 8 Ligue 1 Titles & 3 French Cup victories making Nantes the 3rd most successful club in Ligue 1 history. Recent seasons have seen Nantes slip out down the footballing ladder but a recent promotion has seen the club re-instated in Ligue 1. Nantes were formed in 1943 during the Second World War. A merger of smaller clubs saw the creation of FC Nantes Atlantique. The name was shortened to FC Nantes in 2007. Les Canaris (The Canaries), have a tradition of producing talented footballers through it highly acclaimed youth system. The likes of Marcel Desailly who started his career at Nantes, where he played his first professional match at 17 years old. Desailly eventually left for Marseille, then Milan, then Chelsea. Other names Didier Deschamps, Mickaël Landreau, Claude Makelele, Christian Karembeu & Jeremy Toulalan who were all products of the system. If you want an easy ride - you're on the wrong thread, perhaps FM:15 Chelsea F.C. is for you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 [/url] HISTORY In 1943, Nantes had five football clubs (Saint-Pierre, Stade Nantais UC, AC Batignolles, ASO Nantaise and Mellinet). However, Mellinet's manager realised that Nantes could have a better chance of sporting success ifall five clubs merged into one. Following the merger of all five clubs into FC Nantes, Saupin declared, "Today we are a small team, but we will become a great team if we work together one day". On 1 June 1963, the club won its place in the first division against Sochaux. Marcel Saupin died on 10 June and would never see the club he created amongst the elite. Nantes went on to win the 1964–65 and 1965–66 league titles with a well polished game, partly thanks to José Arribas, a fan of a more offensive game strategy who was making his first contributions to that which would become known as the jeu à la nantaise. It was during this period that the famous jeu à la nantaise, made up of well-oiled and offensive tactics, made its appearance. Apart from the titles of French champion which Nantes held in 1973, 1977, 1980 and 1983, the club won their first Coupe de France in 1979 against Auxerre courtesy of a 4–1 victory after extra time. Eric Pécout inserted his name into Nantes folklore by converting a hat-trick in the match. In June 1983, Nantes battled out a Coupe de France final against Paris Saint-Germain, Nantes lost the match 3–2 preventing the club from obtaining the league and cup double. Claude Makelele was part of the team that reached the semi finals of the Champions Leauge in '96. In July 1991 the club re-instated Jean-Claude Suaudeau, and in July 1992, the after spending a fortnight in the second division due to an administrative decision by the DNGG (French Football's financial regulator), FC Nantes is renamed FC Nantes Atlantique, and is able to take its place in the 1st Division back. In 1992, the jeu à la nantaise made its comeback. The club subsequently made the finals of the French Championship in 1992-3; semi-finals of the French Cup in 1993-4; won the 1994-5 Championship and was Semi finalist in the Champion's league of 1995–6. This period saw the development of a host of players such as Japhet N'Doram, Patrice Loko, Reynald Pedros, Nicolas Ouédec, Claude Makélélé, and Christian Karembeu. Nantes secured a return to Ligue 1 on 25 April 2008, with a 1–1 draw against Montpellier. In the 2008–09 Ligue 1 season, Nantes finished 19th and were relegated back to Ligue 2. Nantes was promoted to Ligue 1 on 17 May 2013 and began its 45th season in Ligue 1. Nantes finished last season in 13th position in Ligue 1 despite poor start. STADIUM The Stade de la Beaujoire - Louis Fonteneau, or "Stade de la Beaujoire" is the home of FC Nantes. The stadium opened for the first time on May 8, 1984, for a friendly game: FC Nantes - Romania. It was named after Louis Fonteneau, who was President of FC Nantes between 1969-1986. It was renovated in 1998, for the World Cup. While its original capacity was 52,923, in 1998, it was converted to an all-seater stadium and its current capacity is 38,000. Previously, the team played at Stade Marcel Saupin. The Stade de la Beaujoire - Louis Fonteneau KIT Like Norwich City, FC Nantes are nicknamed ‘The Canaries’ or ‘Les Canaris’ and have been wearing a green and yellow kit since their formation in 1943. The inspiration for the club’s colours comes from their founder Jean le Guillou – an entrepreneur who owned a stables, whose horses wore green and yellow when racing. This season, the club’s kit is all-yellow but with green sleeves on the shirt and green detailing on the socks also. Norwich and FC Nantes’ shared nicknames and colours inspired a unique twinning of its supporters’ trusts, stemming from a meeting a number of years ago. Norwich City Supporters’ Trust and L’association Des Amoureuex du FC Nantes keep in regular contact with one another as a result. Les Canaris - Famous for their yellow & green kits FACILITIES & CLUB OVERVIEW Overview Nation: France Year Founded: 1943 Operating Status: Professional. Legends: Jean-Claude Suaudeau & Jose Arribas Icons: Maxime Bossis, Japhet N'Doram, Mickael Landreau, Henri Michel, Christian Karembeu, Nestor Fabbri & Raynald Denoueix Favoured Personnel: Marcel Desailly, Didier Deschamps & Reynald Pedros Derbies: None Fierce Rivals: Stade Rennais (Local) Other Rivals: Bordeaux (Local), AS Saint Etienne (Historic), Angers SCO (Local), LEMANS FC (Local), FC Lorien (Local), EA Guingamp (Local) Continental Competition: None. Media Prediction: 15th. Squad Personality: Determined. Captain: Papy Vice-Captain: Olivier Veigneau Finances Finances: Secure. Estimated Value: £34m. Balance:£4m. Average Ticket Price: £26. Average Season Ticket Price: £290. Season Ticket Holders: 9,400. Debt: None Transfer Budget: £0 [Embargo In Place 1st Season] Wage Budget: £240k/pw (Current: £240k/pw). Facilities City: Nantes. Stadium: Stade Louis Fonteneau Capacity: 38,004 (All Seated). Year Built: 1984. Stadium Condition: Good. Surface: Grass. Pitch Condition: Good. Corporate Facilities: Average corporate facilities. Training Facilities: State of the training facilities. Youth Facilities: Excellent youth facilities. Youth Stadium: Stade Marcel Saupin. Training Ground: Centre Sportif Jose-Arribas. Junior Coaching: Good junior coaching. Youth Recruitment: Well established youth recruitment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 [/url] These bad boys got hustle. Brah. GOALKEEPERS 16.Erwin Zelazny Nationality: French Age:2 3 years Date of birth: 22 September 1991 Height: 1.86 m Weight: 80 kg Number: 16 Position: Goalkeeper Club 1.Remy Riou Nationality :French Age: 27 years Date of birth: 6 August 1987 Height: 1.91 m Weight: 81 kg Number: 1 30.Maxime Dupe Nationality: French Age: 21 years Date of birth: 4 March 1993 Height: 1.86 m Weight: 85 kg Number: 30 Position: Goalkeeper Riou is your number one. No doubt. He will a solid enough platform for your first season when you're not expected to pull up any trees. Zelazny & Dupe will be your 2nd & 3rd choice respectively. They can provide adequate cover again for your level of ambition but a prolonged injury to Riou would seriously hurt your season's acheivements. With no transfer kitty and no room for manoeuvre in the wage budget look after Remy and don't be afraid to rotate in during cup games. Keepers need rest too you know. DEFENDERS 4.Oswaldo Viscarrondo Nationality: Venezuelian Age: 30 years Date of birth: 31 May 1984 Height: 1.91 m Weight: 87 kg Number: 4 Position: Defender 2.Kian Hansen Age:25 years Date of birth: 3 March 1989 Height:1.84 m Weight :74 kg Number : 2 Position: Defender 26.Koffi Djidji Nationality: French Age: 21 years Date of birth: 30 November 1992 Height: 1.84 m Weight: 71 kg Number: 26 Position: Defender 3.Papy Nationality: Senegalese Age: 25 years Date of birth: 1 December 1988 Height: 1.93 m Weight: 82 kg Number : 3 Position: Defender 35. David Alcibiade ]Nationality: French Age: 22 years Date of birth: 1 December 1988 Height: 1.81m Weight: 73 kg Number : 3 Position: Defender 22.Issa Cissokho Nationality: French Age: 29 years Date of birth: 23 February 1985 Height: 1.73 m Weight: 73 kg Number: 22 Position: Defender 5.Olivier Veigneau Nationality: French Age: 29 years Date of birth: 16 July 1985 Height:1.74 m Weight: 69 kg Number: 5 Position: Defender Defensively you will be strong enough and fit for purpose in Season 1. Papy is the club captain & is a rock at the back, great tackle (Giggidy), bravery and great athleticism - He and Veretout are the first names on my team sheet. The big Venezuelan and Hansen (Not Alan) will provide competition and cover for that second spot in the center of defence. There is more competition for the full backs spot. Vice captain Veigneau will take some ousting at Left Back, but Alhadhur and Cissokho (Yes, his brother) will fight it out for the RB position. Be careful with rotation if that is yiur thing, a long term injury to Papy or Veigneau will seriously set you back. I mentioned that your defence is fit for purpose. First season your not expected to pull up any tree's and your chosen back 4 will be good enough to keep you in Ligue 1 for sure. As your stability grows and with it your ambition, strengthening your defensive options will need to be high up the priority list. MIDFIELD 18. Luca Deaux Nationality: French Age: 25 years Date of birth: 26 December 1988 Height: 1.84 m Weight: 77 kg Number: 18 Position: Midfielder 12. Birama Toure Nationality: Mali Age: 25 years Date of birth: 6 June 1992 Height: 1.84 m Weight: 75 kg Number: 12 Position: Midfielder 25. Jordan Veretout Nationality: French Age: 21 years Date of birth: 1 March 1993 Height: 1.76 m Weight: 66 kg Number: 25 Position: Midfielder 7.Alejandro Bedoya Nationality: American Age: 27 years Date of birth: 29 April 1987 Height: 1.78 m Weight: 73 kg Number: 7 Position: Midfielder 8.Vincent Bessat Nationality: French Age: 29 years Date of birth: 8 November 1985 Height: 1.78 m Weight: 73 kg Number: 8 Position: Midfielder 12.Serge Gakpe Nationality: Togolese Age: 27 years Date of birth: 7 May 1987 Height:1.77 m Weight: 79 kg Number: 13 Position: Forward / Midfield ATTACKERS 11.Ismael Bangoura Nationality: Guinean Age: 29 years Date of birth: 2 January 1985 Height: 1.74 m Weight: 75 kg Number: 11 Position: Forward 9.Itay Schechter Nationality: Israeli Age: 27 years Date of birth: 22 February 1987 Height: 1.78 m Weight: 77 kg Number: 9 Position: Forward 21.Johan Audel Nationality: French Age: 30 years Date of birth: 12 December 1983 Height: 1.80 m Weight: 75 kg Number: 21 Position: Forward 10.Fernando Aristeguieta Nationality: Venezuelian Age: 22 years Date of birth: 9 April 1992 Height: 1.87 m Weight: 82 kg Number: 10 Position: Forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 [/url] FORMATIONS 4-1-4-1 Choosing the correct formation is very much about applying a structure that best suits the players you have. This is a my personal option and one I feel that suits Nantes very well. Defensively Nantes are sound, I chose to sit Gomis infront of the back 4 with the acknowledgement that bothwingers and full backs are provided licence to attack. Lucas Deaux in CM has defensive duties and a 'Hold Position' PPI to enable a structure to remain whilst the more creative Veretout pushes on as a roaming playmaker to tuck in behind the lone striker to ensure he is not isolated. Another great advantage of the 4-1-4-1 is its flexibility as a base point for other tactics. The 2 wide players can push on and easily become more attacking wingers in a 4-3-3. A CM can easily become a CAM whilst the DM pushes on into midfield creating a 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2. I find this tactic is a useful platform to start games. It is easily 'adjusted' should you need to tailor certain factors to better suit the game in front of you. Remember there is no 1 tactic fits all. But there is a One Size Fitz Hall 4-2-3-1 The 4-2-3-1 is the formation commonly applied by FC Nantes so far this season, It provides Jordan Veretout the most creative player in the team license to press forward whilst allowing the quicker wingers more advanced positions on the flanks where they are more comfortable in the advanced positions. Veretout drop in a dictate tempo more freely by finding space in behind the midfield. 4-3-3 4-3-3 is another variation on the above. it provides sound defensive structure with the 2 DM's. The formation lends its self to a more contained, counter attacking style of play. Suiting Gakpe and faster attacking players to launch quick, direct attacks into the opposition area. This works well with a structured, stand off approach so that players do not pull themselves out of positions or over commit. Jeu à la Nantaise I appreciate the above may seem bold. I choose to play a fluid system, with attacking mentality at home and counter attacking when away - As a general rule. I try and adhere to 'jeu à la nantaise' and play aggressive football. I believe this plays to Nantes strengths relatively well. Gomis or Toure can provide a solid rear guard to the back four. With a 5 man mdfield it is difficult for the opposition to nail down a solid passing game. The 2 wide midfielders in the 4-1-4-1 formation sitting in the ML & MR provide considerably more cover than its 4-2-3-1 alternative where the 2 wide men are considerably more advanced. With these more 'structured' and defensive positions in place there is a solid bedrock to encourage a more fluid and attacking style of play without risking too much defensively. Ligue 1 Note: Ligue 1 only allows you to field a maximum of 4 non European players. Fortuanatley African nations do not count towards this allocation. A maximum of 4 non EU players may be registered. Continental Qualification Qualification for European competitions is available to top finishers within Ligue 1 thanks to the nations co-efficient and UEFA seedings. First & Second are granted automatic spots as PSG and AS Monaco represent France in this years tournament. 3rd Place is granted access through pre-qualification only. 4th and 5th spot are entered into the Europa Cup. Top 2 teams qualify automatically for Champions League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 [/url] Ligue 1 - Matches Biggest Win: 8 - 0 Vs Montpellier, November 1956 - [Historic] Biggest Win in a Cup Final: Biggest Win in Champions League: Most Possession in a Match: Most Games Won in Row: Most Matches Without Losing: 32 (August 1994 - April 1995) - [Historic] Most League Goals Scored in a Season: Least League Goals Conceded in a Season: Ligue 1 - Players Most Goals in a Match: 3 Serge Gakpe Vs Lorient 2014 - Saint_Lane Most Goals in a Season: Most League Goals in a Season: Most Assists in a Match: 4 Jordan Veretout Vs EA Guingamp 2014 - Saint_Lane Most League Assists in a Season: Most Passes in a Match: Highest Transfer Fee Received: £4.8m Jeremy Toulalan, July 2007 - [Historic] Highest Transfer Fee Spent: £3.9m Ariza Makukula, July 2002 - [Historic] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saint_Lane Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Up & running! Updates and formatting taking part over the weekend but jump in and get the ball rolling, keen to hear how you all fare in Ligue 1! I am approaching December so will post a winter update over the weekend! Allez La Maison Jaune! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Nice thread Saint_Lane. Could give these a go. Do they start the first season with points deducted? Or were they deducted the previous season? And could you tell me the board expectations in the first season? Liking the transfer embargo, would be nice to take that out of the equation for first season whilst I build up a shopping list. I always get too bogged down bringing in too many players too quickly so an embargo would remove all temptation! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Nice thread Saint_Lane. Could give these a go. Do they start the first season with points deducted? Or were they deducted the previous season? And could you tell me the board expectations in the first season? Liking the transfer embargo, would be nice to take that out of the equation for first season whilst I build up a shopping list. I always get too bogged down bringing in too many players too quickly so an embargo would remove all temptation! Definitely recommend it Jibby. No, no point deduction this season. Expectation is "Not to be outclassed on too many occasions". You have the option for consolidation or to avoid relegation also. The embargo is entertaining. It was enforced because Nantes signed Bangoura whilst he was technically under contract still for Al-Nasr. I think they had to pay around 4m euros for compensation! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Think I will this weekend. I haven't played in France for a while, but always had entertaining saves there. Like the history, the stadium size and facilities here at Nantes and embargo is a challenge and something different. Thanks for heads up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Like the history, the stadium size and facilities here at Nantes and embargo is a challenge and something different. Thanks for heads up. Agreed. The facilities are top class & If you enjoy the challenge of brining youth through to the first team - You have plenty of opportunity! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toin Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Great thread! You convinced me to start a FC Nantes save. So far I've played 10 league games and collected 18 points which puts me in 6th place, playing a pretty weird 2-3-2-3 formation (2 CB, 2 CWB in the DM strata, 1 Halfback, 2 B2B, and 3 strikers) that gives me a lot of possession. Hopefully I'll get some great youth in when the youth intake is there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Wow. That's a great start - Keep us posted! That puts me to shame. I am having a real poor season! Made some dreadful tactical decisions and rotten luck with injuries!! Sitting 15th after Christmas. I'd leave my nan out in the rain for a win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toin Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 So at the 3rd of January the table looks like this. Hopefully we'll be able to keep this up and push for a European spot. We're averaging 60.21% possession, by far the highest percentage in the league. I have tried to sign Adrien Rabiot on a free, but he agreed on a new contract with PSG unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 This is definitely one of the better threads this year. Great work mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toin Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Decent game in the Coupe de la Ligue. We'll play in Saint-Étienne in the semi-final, the other semi-final is Marseille - Lille. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Lane Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 So at the 3rd of January the table looks like this. Hopefully we'll be able to keep this up and push for a European spot. We're averaging 60.21% possession, by far the highest percentage in the league. I have tried to sign Adrien Rabiot on a free, but he agreed on a new contract with PSG unfortunately. This is impressive. You got 3 goals out of Aristeguieta?! That's more than he's given me all season. Would love to see your Formation and Team instructions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jogo Bonito Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Fantastic layout of your thread as usual. I usually take on a club in France at some point, and will consider Nantes if I do again (because of this). Jordan Veretout is a player I have admired for a few years (but never been successful in signing), whilst Alex Yougouda (in reserve team) was quite highly thought of when at Coton Sport, so it will be interesting to see if you ever use him in your save. I took him directly from Africa to Saint Etienne in FM14 and he was very good. I noticed you did a little summary of goalkeepers and defenders, but not the midfield or attack. I'll look forward to seeing that at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toin Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Aristeguieta actually hasn't done too much for me, although he had a great game there. I would probably sell him if a decent offer comes in because he is worth €4.7m at the moment. This is the current standing in Ligue 1 after 31 games. We are in a heavy fight with Lille, Marseille and Lyon for the Champions League spots. As you can see we're ranked first in goals scored, but conceding a bit too many to be a title contender. Obviously I'm still very happy with how things are going right now. I've also just played the Coupe de la Ligue final, which turned out to be a thriller! I was gutted when Gignac scored that late equalizer, but fortunately we bettered them in the penalty shoot-out! Really happy to win a cup in the first season! Tactic-wise we line up like this, we play on a counter mentality with flexible team shape (accidentally cut that part of). The only player instruction I use is the GK to play it short. I'm not entirely happy with the front 3, I think I'll play with 1 AMC and 2 strikers in the future, but the squad currently doesn't have any AMC so I decided to play 3 strikers. This would also leave more space for the CWB's to run into because the False Nine and Trequarista tend to move into their space. I'd also probably change 1 MC to a DLP if I were to play with an AMC. Jogo Bonito: Yougouda looks like he could do a job but I don't think he'll ever cut it at the top level. I was going to use him as a backup but then he picked up an injury that kept him out for 2 months, so I decided to use Amine Oudrhiri instead. I have now loaned out Yougouda to Orleans but he will never play for my first team. One thing that annoys me is that literally ever single player from the reserve-team is complaining about the lack of gametime, and they pretty much all of them are transferlisted now, even though most of their contracts are running out anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toin Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Decent second season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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