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  1. You are right. Really spot on. However the clubs are willing to let us use their badges, faces and kits. But for a price. It's a product they can sell. And computer games are a lucrative market. They will not sit idly by whilst their assets are offered for free without their permission. The fundamentals of the situation we are faced with is that the legality of the matter is undeniable. The hosting & distribution of protected player images, kits & logos is illegal unless the access and authority to do so has been granted. We might not like that. But I do not believe that statement can be challenged on legal grounds. Sports Interactive have benefited significantly from a community which patches 'holes' in its games through Graphical Mods / Licence Fixes & Downloads that do include copyrighted material. Many of us here have already stated we only buy this game knowing we can 'self remedy' its perceived flaws. Sports Interactive, even on their very own hosted forums, allow links and advice to be published on how to acquire and gain access to these Graphical Mods & Enhancements. As well as making the modding and implementation of 'Graphical / Licence enhancements' extremely easy. Here is where they may face challenge.
  2. I'll start as i started the other comment. I agree with you in principle with what you are saying. But. This is off the mark. FM sold over 2 Million Copies in 2019. It consistently performs as one of the top selling PC titles. "FIFA generated $600 million in licensing rights for the 2015-2018 cycle" (FIFA Annual Report Summary). Juventus earned over (E)40m in licencing sales prior to the Konami Deal! There is enormous amounts of money in licencing and in particular granting access to 3rd parties to use said licences. I wish all companies shared your philosophy. Unfortunately this is not the case. Companies will spend hundreds of thousands of pounds not only registering their Trademarks, but many more thousands in defending their IP and unauthorized use of their protected property. Lets be clear here. They are already stepping in. FM Scout have already withdrawn the ability to download graphics from their site citing adverse legal ramifications as the reason. Companies spend millions of pounds to trademark and protect their property, do not underestimate their resolve in trying to protect it.
  3. It's Monday. I've had a shandy and am feeling saucy. So what players didn't or haven't quite lived up to the promise that their early FM days promised? ...I'll get us rolling: Carlos Fierro ... Here is the Football Manager 2012 equivalent at a similar age:
  4. (Shhh!) You are of course right. But he's a darling of Gladbach fans and is on fire this season in the Bundesliga! P.s 9 Games in:
  5. Absolutley, new manager Marco Rose (From RB Salzburg) has them playing some high intensity, high press football - Very entertaining. Big challenge though. Board want Champions League first season and that wont be easy!
  6. I'll start by saying. In sentiment I completely agree with you. My fear is this - Juventus does lose a penny. Many a penny. Why? ...Because if the FM Community were not providing these resources for free. SI & The 'Football Manager' team would come under pressure to provide these. Many people (Myself included) in this thread have stated they would not be interested in the game without the Graphical & Licence improvements provided by the community. So without a community provided solution, SI come under heavy pressure from their fan base to acquire official licences. They would need to pay for these. Here is where it can get interesting. The Premier League clubs for example, diminish their own ability to control their rights, they place a lot of the authority and control of image and licence distribution to the Premier League body - A "Collective Licencing System". There are exceptions where certain players and clubs retain autonomy, but as a general rule it applies. Serie A and the case of Juventus is slightly different. The ability and authority to licence specific clubs badge & kits etc. rests with the club itself. So if FM wanted the 'whole package' with Juventus to use their Intellectual Property - They would need to pay Juventus for it. And we are talking BIG MONEY. Now imagine you are the Chief Executive of Konami (Developers of Pro Evolution Soccer football game) - You've just a secured a lucrative contract with Juventus for EXCLUSIVE rights to their images, licence, kits & badge - And to your frustration, there is this very popular FM community taking content you've just paid millions for and coding it into the Football Manager game for free! Not only this, but Sports Interactive are making this extremely easy to do and are even hosting methods and links on their own official website to enable this. ...Well you'd be pretty upset.
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