papamogl Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Against Bremen. I like the high ball possession even against strong opponents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Startin a new save(13.2) with Man Utd right now. Going to test your tactic, give you some feedback as the game progress. Any recommendation??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Thanks, I'm keen on your report. Don't know what sort of recommandation you're after but I think with ManU you should do just fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazaveli Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Trying this on my Liverpool save in 2013/2014, after finishing 7th last season. Will report back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Thanks, please do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlei Slice Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Started using this tactic after a break from the game & since have found it hard to put back down lol! I took over a struggling Everton team in the Championship & for the first season I found that we'd dominate every game but couldn't kill games off which led to a lot of dropped points in games we should have won. It got so bad that my job status was very insecure at one point. The football we were playing was great however so I stuck with it & eventually missed out on play off promotion via penalties. Now in my first full season it's clicked & we're finally putting games to bed. Results: Table: Since using this tactic I can't remember the last time we didn't boss a game statistically, the only blips being the West Ham result which half of my players were very tired for & the Manchester games where we put in a very good account of ourselves. I leave everything as it is, only switching strategy to counter when 2 goals up or late on when seeing out a game. In short, stick with it & it should hopefully come good.. Thanks Papamogl! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyjeffrey Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 @Healmuth Could you please post the changes you made in set pieces? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 @wanderlei slice thanks for your detailed feedback. Nice to know it works in lower league too. Competing against ManU is not bad for a Championship side. And good to see you conceded less than one goal per game on average during the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
busen39 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Am i the only one who got a virus after i clicked on the download-link? i hope so othereise i wonder if there is something wrong with the link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuanMarneyW Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Played around 12-15 games using just about the same tactic, using Spurs in my second season. Season was flagging, but I've now won all my games bar a 1-0 loss to Liverpool and a last minute equalizer for Wolves 1-1 against me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 @busen39 wow I'm very sorry there! I don't know what went wrong though, as nobody else seems to have that problem. If you want I can send you the tactic per mail (just pm me) or upload it to another hoster. @EuanMarneyW nice run. Thanks for the feedback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
busen39 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 @papamogl: Yes, I don't think you have done anything bad. Maybe it was because i had a old version of Java or so. I dunno anything about computers. But i certainly doesn't blame you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonarmyadam Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 In my second season with Tottenham. Used Zero Sea's latest tactic during my first campaign and won the EPL, EL and FA Cup. Decided to give this one a go at the start of my second season. Will report back with the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 Doesn't sound like you needed a new tactic when you did so well, but thanks that you give mine a try. I'd love to hear your results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitro3x2a Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Going to give this tactic a go on my Villa practice save. I have a batch of upcoming games where we're playing several of the big teams, so that should give me an idea how this tactic will hold up. Will post back later to let you know how I got on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Good luck and please report back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Couple of questions - is this tactic working okay on 13.2.1? And I saw on one of your screenshots that you have Playmaker selected and you've got Gotze (your AMC) selected in the dropdown menu, does that mean we also have to select our AMC in the dropdown menu or could we leave that blank? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 It's working on the new patch and the AMC should already be ticked as playmaker, so no need to make any changes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Well just played first match using this - Portuguese second division with Santa Clara away against Arouca - won 2-1. This is a great result as I've used a few tactics since the new patches came out over the last few days and this is the first time I've won that match. Think I'll stick with this for a bit and see if it beds in okay. Cheers bud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Might as well have been luck, so I'm glad you're giving it some more time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bububaggins Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 How many goals a season is lewandoski getting, As im finding he doesnt score as much as he should with this tactic. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Have a look at post #41. Last season he scored 23 goals in 31 appearances for me with an average rating of 7.33 How many does he score for you? Are other players stepping in or are you unhappy with the amount your team scores as a whole? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Hi Papa - well, tried the tactic for a good 12 games but it was just too inconsistent for me - to be fair I am in the Portuguese second division so it might not be great for teams with weaker players. Over the 12 games I won about 5/6 of them and lost about 3/4. I'd stay with it a bit longer but my job might be up for the sack if that form continues. Might come back to it when I've improved the squad a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Sure, thanks for trying and for reporting back. I never tested it in lower league so it might be too demanding for a weaker squad. It's quite a high tempo after all. But it might also be true that especially with a weaker squad it's the more important that the players have enough time to get used to the tactic. So maybe it might have become more consistent with increased familiarity. Be it as it may, thanks again for trying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 Funny, played only two games yesterday, and Lewandowski scored thrice. So he does definitely score enough, eventhough this might not be the best tactic to have one prolific striker scoring ridiculous amounts. It's more about teamwork, with wingers and midfielders (and even wingbacks) scoring regularly too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuanMarneyW Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Played 22 games with Spurs, won 18, lost 3 and drawn 1. Main weaknesses are definitely conceding from set pieces, and vulnerability from your fBs/WBs being very attacking. Conceding a lot of goals with moves that are started wide - quite often someone arrives at the back post completely unmarked, to score from a cross that has come from the other wing. In my last game against Arsenal, i closed down their wide midfielders 'always' and put man marking on them, and this seemed to do the trick. Might have been a one off, but Arsenal didn't have a look in, the entire game. Will test further. I was playing with Alaba at attacking wingback on the left, with Bale as IF in front of him, but due to an Alaba injury, I've come to realise that Bale is damn near unplayable, running from deep as the attacking wingback. I've been playing Isco ahead of him now as an IF, with Draxler also getting some first team time to push him on a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 Thanks for the insight. I was mostly conceding from set pieces too. It helps a lot to set match training to defending set pieces. With your wide defenders being very attacking it's natural that the odd gap opens for counter attacks. I'll be looking into this for a v2 should there be enough interest for it. Maybe I could balance it a bit more, though I like my wingbacks attacking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickZombie Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I think/hope there's enough interest. This tactic has been great for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlHighfield Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 On the attack this tactic is unbelievable although I only ever score 1 or 2 goals a game despite having 30+ shots in the game. But I also seem to concede to absolutely every team no matter who it is I'm playing. Also when playing away from home I never ever win, I'm playing as Arsenal too so my defence as a whole is great. Am I doing something wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 Don't know what is wrong that your strikers don't score despite having enough shots. For away games try a more cautious approach (e.g. switching to standard or counter, depending on the opponent) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlHighfield Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I do switch to standard/counter whenever I play away but it doesn't help at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 Well I don't know what's going wrong then on a regular basis. Can you post some stats of the next few away games your team fails to win? Would love to have a look at that as it might help developing it further Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlHighfield Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=116443872 This is the first game I played after posting and as you can see I should really be winning that :| Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlHighfield Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198002225155/screenshot/1100268447121513631 Again a poor result against a poor team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Thanks for the screens. It's true, while the stats all look great the results could be better. I can't tell where the problem lies from these though. Are a lot of the shots from long range? Or blocked? Also are you playing Giroud as your striker? Can you possibly upload the match files so I can watch them in full to get a better idea what is going on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Just a little tip for anybody still using this tactic: switch crossing to "drill crosses". It's no big deal but I found it to be slightly more effective Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Just a little tip for anybody still using this tactic: switch crossing to "drill crosses". It's no big deal but I found it to be slightly more effective Where to set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 It's in the team settings where you can set the passing, d-line, play offside, and such. One option is crossing which is set to default. Switch this to "drill crosses" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 It's in the team settings where you can set the passing, d-line, play offside, and such. One option is crossing which is set to default. Switch this to "drill crosses" can you upload tweak version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 It's in the team settings where you can set the passing, d-line, play offside, and such. One option is crossing which is set to default. Switch this to "drill crosses" drill crosses=low cross? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Don't know where you found a low cross option, it should be called drill crosses. I can send you a tweaked version but not until tomorrow or wednesday I'm afraid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Don't know where you found a low cross option, it should be called drill crosses. I can send you a tweaked version but not until tomorrow or wednesday I'm afraid ok appreciated.my email address is guardiang@hanmail.net Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I seem to be the original version better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 So you found it? All the better then. Just leave it on default if you like that better and thanks for the feedback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So you found it? All the better then. Just leave it on default if you like that better and thanks for the feedback yes,thank yoou. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Which translates into even the "control" to "standard". What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 Sorry, I don't think I understand what you mean. What's this about control and standard? I regularly switch between those (and attacking, overload, and counter) depending on the opponent and on the circumstances during the match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Sorry, I don't think I understand what you mean. What's this about control and standard? I regularly switch between those (and attacking, overload, and counter) depending on the opponent and on the circumstances during the match i mean The starting mentality is set to "standard" by default.Strong team no matter about any team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 You have to change that from game to game, depending on how strong your opponent is and whether you play at home or away. When you are managing a strong team you can set control as default instruction, but still you should change it for certain games (against title contendery, on away games and so on) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You have to change that from game to game, depending on how strong your opponent is and whether you play at home or away. When you are managing a strong team you can set control as default instruction, but still you should change it for certain games (against title contendery, on away games and so on) You are absolutely right.thank you for your advice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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