Gene Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Welcome to the Hertha BSC Thread I'm Just Here For The Currwurst Hertha Berliner Sport-Club von 1892, commonly known as Hertha BSC or Hertha Berlin, is a German association football club based in Berlin. A founding member of the German Football Association in Leipzig in 1900, the club has a long history as Berlin's best-supported side. Hertha currently competes in the Bundesliga, Germany's top professional league. Club History The club was formed in 1892 as BFC Hertha 92, taking its name from a steamship with a blue and white smokestack. One of the four young men who founded the club had taken a day trip on this ship with his father. The name Hertha is a variation on Nerthus referring to fertility goddess from Germanic mythology. Hertha performed consistently well on the field, including a win in the first Berlin championship final in 1905. In May 1910, Hertha won a friendly match against Southend United F.C., which was considered significant at the time as England was where the game originated and English clubs dominated the sport. However, their on-field success was not matched financially and in 1920 the staunchly working-class Hertha merged with the well-heeled club Berliner Sport-Club to form Hertha Berliner Sport-Club. The new team continued to enjoy considerable success in the Oberliga Berlin-Brandenburg, while also enduring a substantial measure of frustration. The team played its way to the German championship final in six consecutive seasons from 1926 to 1931, but were only able to come away with the title in 1930 and 1931 with BSC leaving to become an independent club again after the combined side's first championship. Even so, Hertha emerged as the Germany's second most successful team during the inter-war years. Play under the Third Reich German football was re-organized under the Third Reich in 1933 into sixteen top-flight divisions, which saw Hertha playing in the Gauliga Berlin-Brandenburg. The club continued to enjoy success within their division, regularly finishing in the upper half of the table and capturing the divisional title in 1935, 1937, and 1944. However, they faded from prominence, unable to advance out of the early rounds of the national championship rounds. Politically, the club was overhauled under Hitler, with Hans Pfeifer, a Nazi party member being installed as president. Postwar play in divided Berlin After World War II, occupying Allied authorities banned most organizations in Germany, including sports and football clubs. Hertha was re-formed late in 1945 as SG Gesundbrunnen and resumed play in the Oberliga Berlin – Gruppe C. The thirty-six teams of the first season of the postwar Oberliga Berlin were reduced to just a dozen the next year and the club found itself out of first division football and playing in the Amateurliga Berlin. By the end of 1949, they had re-claimed their identity as Hertha BSC Berlin and earned a return to the top-flight. Tensions between the western Allies and the Russians occupying various sectors of the city, and the developing Cold War, led to chaotic conditions for football in the capital. Hertha was banned from play against East German teams in the 1949–50 season after taking on several players and a coach who had fled the Dresden club SG Friedrichstadt for West Berlin. A number of sides from the eastern half of the city were forced from the Oberliga Berlin to the newly established DDR-Liga beginning with the 1950–51 season. Through the 50's an intense rivalry developed with Tennis Borussia Berlin. A proposal for a merger between the two clubs in 1958 was resoundingly rejected, with only three of the 266 members voting in favour. Entry to the Bundesliga At the time of the formation of the Bundesliga in 1963, Hertha was Berlin's reigning champion and so became an inaugural member of the new professional national league. In spite of finishing clear of the relegation zone, the team was demoted after the 1964–65 season following attempts to bribe players to play in the city under what had become decidedly unpleasant circumstances after the erection of the Berlin Wall. This caused something of a crisis for the Bundesliga which wanted for political reasons to continue to have a team in its ranks representing the former capital. Through various machinations this led to the promotion of SC Tasmania 1900 Berlin, which then delivered the worst-ever performance in Bundesliga history. Hertha managed a return to the premier German league in 1968–69 and developed a solid following making it Berlin's favorite side. However, Hertha was again soon touched by scandal through its involvement with several other clubs in the Bundesliga match fixing scandal of 1971. In the course of an investigation of Hertha's role, it was also revealed that the club was 6 million DM in debt. Financial disaster was averted through the sale of the team's former home ground. In spite of this, the team continued to enjoy a fair measure of success on the field through the 70's with a second place Bundesliga finish behind Borussia Mönchengladbach in 1974–75, a semi-final appearance in the 1979 UEFA Cup, and two appearances in the final of the German Cup (1977 and 1979). The following season saw the fortunes of the team take a turn for the worse as they were relegated to 2. Bundesliga where they would spend thirteen of the next seventeen seasons. Plans in 1982 for a merger with Tennis Borussia Berlin, SpVgg Blau-Weiß 1890 Berlin and SCC Berlin to form a side derisively referred to as FC Utopia never came to fruition. Hertha slipped as low as the third tier Amateur Oberliga Berlin where they spent two seasons (1986–87 and 1987–88). Two turns in the Bundesliga (1982–83 and 1990–91) saw the team immediately relegated after poor performances. Hertha's amateur side enjoyed a greater measure of success, advancing all the way to the final of the German Cup in 1993 where their run ended in a close 0–1 defeat at the hands of Bundesliga side Bayer Leverkusen. Following the fall of the Berlin Wall, Hertha became a popular side in East Berlin as well. Two days after the wall come down, 11,000 East Berliners attended Hertha's match against SG Wattenscheid. A fan friendship with 1. FC Union Berlin developed, and a friendly match between the two attracted over 50,000 spectators. Financial woes once more burdened the club in 1994 as it found itself 10 million DM in debt. The crisis was again resolved through the sale of real estate holdings in addition to the signing of a new sponsor and management team. By 1997 Hertha found its way back to the Bundesliga where they generally managed to finish in the upper third of the slate. When Hertha was promoted in 1997, it ended Berlin's six-year-long drought without a Bundesliga side which had made the Bundesliga the only top league in Europe without representation from its country's biggest city and capital. Recent History Most recently, bright spots for the side have been a continuous string of appearances in international play in the UEFA Cup and the UEFA Champions League beginning in the 1999 season, and the signing of players such as Sebastian Deisler and Brazilian international Marcelinho, named the Bundesliga's player of the year in May 2005. Hertha has also invested heavily in its own youth football academy, which has produced several players with Bundesliga potential. The team was almost relegated in the 2003–04 season, but rebounded and finished fourth the following season, but missed out on the Champions League after they were held to a draw on the final day by Hannover 96, which saw Werder Bremen overtake them for the spot on the final day. As a thank-you gesture, Werder sent the Hannover squad ninety-six bottles of champagne. In 2005–06 the Herthaner finished sixth, qualified for the UEFA Cup by defeating FK Moskva in the Intertoto Cup but were eliminated in the first round of the UEFA Cup by Odense BK. In 2006–07 Hertha finished 10th after sacking manager Falko Götz on 11 April. Hertha started the 2007–08 season with a new manager, Lucien Favre who had won the Swiss Championship in 2006 and 2007 with FC Zürich. They finished 10th again, but started in the first qualification round of the UEFA Cup via the Fair Play Ranking, making it as far as the group stage in the tournament. After a successful campaign in 2008–09 season, finishing in fourth place and remaining in the title race up until the second to last matchday, they had a very poor season in 2009–10 season and finished at the very bottom of the Bundesliga. After spending the 2010–2011 season in the 2. Bundesliga, Hertha BSC secured their return to the Bundesliga for the 2011–2012 season by winning 1–0 at MSV Duisburg, with three matchdays left to go in the season. Stadium Olympic Stadium The Olympiastadion (Olympic Stadium) is a sports stadium in Berlin, Germany. There have been two stadiums on the site: the present facility, and one that is called the Deutsches Stadion which was built for the aborted 1916 Summer Olympics. Both were designed by members of the same family, the first by Otto March and the second by his son Werner March. It is the second biggest stadium in Germany behind Signal Iduna Park. It is the home stadium of the Hertha Berlin football team playing in the German Bundesliga. The current Olympiastadion was originally built for the 1936 Summer Olympics in the southern part of the Reichssportfeld (today Olympiapark Berlin). During World War II, the area suffered little damage. After the war, the British military occupation used the northern part of the Reichssportfeld as its headquarters until 1994. From 1951 to 2005, the Olympischer Platz had a giant antenna transmitting for all the portable radios in Berlin. Aside from its use as an Olympic stadium, the Olympiastadion has a strong footballing tradition. Historically, it is the ground of club Hertha BSC since 1963. It was also used for 3 matches in the 1974 FIFA World Cup. It hosted six matches, including the final, in the 2006 FIFA World Cup and was renovated for that reason. The German Cup final match is held each year at the Olympiastadion. The stadium sees use in other sports as well; at one point it held the world record for the attendance of a baseball game, thought to be over 110,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Kits Honours League German Champions: 2 Winners: 1930, 1931 Runners-up: 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1975 2nd Bundesliga Champion: 2 1990, 2011 Oberliga Berlin Champions: 8 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1933 Gauliga Berlin-Brandenburg Champions: 3 1935, 1937, 1944 Brandenburg football champions: 1906, 1915, 1917, 1918, 1925–31, 1933 Cup DFB-Ligapokal: 2 Winners: 2001, 2002 Runners-up: 2000 Berliner Landespokal: 13 Winners: 1920, 1924, 1928, 1929, 1943, 1958, 1959, 1966, 1967, 19761, 1987, 19921, 20041 DFB-Pokal: 0 Runners-up: 1977, 1979, 19931 Intertoto Cup: 4 1971, 1973, 1976, 1978 Facilities Budget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Before I go any further, if anyone is thinking of playing as Hertha BSC I highly suggest checking out this thread first... http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/281961-Germany-Lower-Leagues-File?highlight=germany It provides you with the database update which will activate the lower leagues in Germany such as the Regionaliga and Oberliga. This is where your reserve team will be playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Squad Analysis Overall, your squad is aging and average at best. You're expected to manage a mid table finish, but honestly, that's going to be a challenge given the players at your disposal. You've got one player that's head and shoulders above everyone else talent wise, and one budding superstar. Goalkeeper- Thomas Kraft and Maikel Aerts will battle it out for the number 1 shirt. Aerts is at his 'peak' with Kraft still developing. I'd probably lean towards Kraft as my number 1, with a few to eventually replace him. Centre back- Maik Franz and Roman Hubnik will probably be your best combo along the back 4. Hubnik is good in the air and mentally, but lacks pace and is a poor tackler. Franz is weaker in the air but is a far better on the ball defender. His agility lets him down a bit though. Andre Mijatovic is a decent backup but lacks any pace at all. Full back- This is an area that really needs addressing. Levan Kobiashvili is not the player he once was, and is on his last legs. You'll probably be tempted to pair him up with Christian Lell on the right. Lell can get forward and and has pace but is lacking a bit defensively. Ronny is more of a wide midfielder but can be employed out on the left. Nico Schulz is one you'll want to keep an eye on, he could develop into a very attacking full back. Midfield- Another area of major concern... a common theme isn't it? Andreas Ottl and Pai Dardai are probably your two best options in the middle. Neither are very creative and neither offer much in an attacking sense. Fabian Lustenberger is another defensive minded midfielder, although he's never fulfilled the promise his showed early in his career. As for attacking midfielders... you've actually got a rather good one. The best player in your first 11 is going to be Raffael. Raffael is a fabulous creator, he just lacks a bit of finishing to really make him deadly. Anis Ben-Hatira is another creative attacker, he's quite similar to Raffael in that he's more of a creator than a finisher. He lacks quite a bit mentally though, so don't expect too much from him. Wingers- Yet again... you lack solid wingers. Patrick Ebert is one of your better wingers but isn't quite that solid. Nikita Rukavytsya will probably play across from him on the left and while he has quite a bit of pace, he's not great with the ball at his feet. If you play with your wingers deeper you can employ Ronny here who would do quite well here. But if you play when them further forward, you'd have to retrain him as a AML. Striker- Adrian Ramos has pace and is good in the air. He's not really cut out for any role you'd like to give him though, so you might want to sell him. You might as well go ahead and play your future star, Pierre-Michel Lasogga. Pierre-Michel is a Mario Gomez clone at only 19 years old. He has amazing mental stats and is quite strong, he's destined to be a future German international. Tactics Due to a serious lack of wingers you may want to play a narrow formation. Although personally I suggest one of the following formations that Hertha actually plays. Transfer Targets I'm not being lazy here. By leaving this blank I'm just being realistic. You're over leveraged with the wage bill already, and you're given nothing for transfers at all. Without significantly unloading players, you're not even going to be in a place to bring anyone in. Not even on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Nice work mate . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 So why Hertha Berlin? You've got a terrible squad and you've got not money. So why would you want to play as Hertha BSC? Simple. You're the biggest club in one of Europe's largest cities, with one of the largest stadiums in Germany. Quite simply put, Hertha BSC is the sleeping giant of German football. You've got one of the brightest young German stars to build around, and Germany is quite possibly the most entertaining nation to play in. With no player restrictions you don't have to worry about anything annoying like work permits, and you'll be able to build a club with players found from all around the globe. Good Luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Nice work mate . Nice work was what we did at Anfield today. Seriously though the Bundesliga is my second favorite league behind the Premiership. Having lived in Germany for a few years only helped to cement that fact. I'm actually a 1FCK supporter but thought I'd try something different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I love the Bundesliga on FM. Quality. Hoffenheim are my team . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seule Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Bremen fan here, but just wanted to say great thread, more Bundesliga threads FTW!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Bremen fan here, but just wanted to say great thread, more Bundesliga threads FTW!! Thanks. I lived in Kaiserslautern for a few years so I already know how it's going to go at Berlin. I'll do pretty well getting Berlin to be consistent challengers for the title, then I'll see 1FCK languishing at the bottom of the table, maybe even in 2. Bundesliga, feel guilty and then leave Berlin to head home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Good OP, mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Good OP, mate Thanks. Should have an update on my save here later. I'm playing this as well as my PSG save at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Well at the end of the summer transfer window we're currently sitting 12th. Through 4 matches we've got a record of 1-1-2. Managed to off load Kobiashvili for 500K to Wolfsburg and combined with Dardai retiring it freed up over 50k in wages which I used to bring in a few new players. All deals were done over 48 months except for Bandalovski. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeesterCat Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Nice thread. Teams like Hertha are exactly the sort I like - clubs with potential, but no money. I'm having a lot of fun with a Pompey save at the moment, but I think I'll be heading to Hertha when I need a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 Things are not going well. I was expected to manage a mid table finish but we're just barely out of the relegation zone here in November. The board expecting mid table is a bit much if you ask me. The problem obviously lies in defense for me. We've allowed 9 goal more than Hoffenheim who sit at the bottom of the table. Scoring goals isn't an issue, but we can't stop anyone else from scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Cool thread. Looks an interesting save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingerfred Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I managed to lead them to a Champions League Triumph, but somehow the chairman thought it would be a nice idea to buy the Olympiastadium. On the Upside they are now the 3rd "wealthiest" club in the world. On the downside, they took a 950 Million Euro bank loan to buy it, that are 60 Millions per year and that thirty times. Good thing Heynckes retired and Bayern is looking for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well... I managed to get the sack. Things just went really poorly in the last two months. Lasogga goes out injured for the final two months as does Raffael. The team started losing... heavily, which led to a massive drop in morale. Nothing I could do could really drag it back out of the gutter. The players didn't really respond to me either. In every match we were pinned back deep and were forced to play a more counter attacking style, but no one could finish any of the few chances we did manage. Hopefully you guys have better luck than I do with your Berlin save. Looks like it's time to fire my Austria Wien save back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearesporting Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I've started a game with them. Midtable with about 8 games gone. I can't live without wingers but luckily there's a few decent wingers available for loan at the start of the game for next to no wage. They aren't brilliant, but if like me you like your wingers they add a bit of depth to the position. I didn't cop to just train Ronny in the AML position. Was worried about DL cover though it would mean Nico Schulz getting some game action so perhaps not so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearesporting Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I've started a game with them. Midtable with about 8 games gone. I can't live without wingers but luckily there's a few decent wingers available for loan at the start of the game for next to no wage. They aren't brilliant, but if like me you like your wingers they add a bit of depth to the position. Kudos to Raffael and Ebert. I didn't cop to just train Ronny in the AML position. Was worried about DL cover though it would mean Nico Schulz getting some game action so perhaps not so bad. In February. Midtable. Schulz gone on loan. Ramos star player by far, banging in the goals. Pity it takes him tonnes of chances to score them but luckily he's been getting enough with kudos to Raffael and Ebert. Still trying to find a way not to be battered around the pitch by Bayern. Solid if boring. Only recently realised the amount of decent future strikers in the squad. Might need two striker formations in the future! Then again I am bleeding money as you do with Hertha so selling may be the name of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Knopper Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Alright guys, started save with Hertha and it looks like i got one hell of first season coming. Lets see what can i do with squad like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearesporting Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Alright guys, started save with Hertha and it looks like i got one hell of first season coming. Lets see what can i do with squad like that. Best of luck! I had a decent start to my first season then I collapsed towards the end of the season. It's a good challenge this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter_Morgan Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 With FM13 being unplayable in my eyes at the minute I decided i'd finally have a crack at Hertha to keep me going for a week or 2. Fixtures 1 Fixtures 2 Table Cup Run Cup Final Transfers Squad Overview Ramos I unticked first window transfers to give myself a fighting chance and we had a decent start to the season. An injury to Kraft in goal for 3 months meant around late Autumn and the winter we did struggle, the 0-7 against Koln being the low point. Without a doubt keeping hold of Ramos (turned down £6M plus incentives from Milan in January) and bringing in Friedrich was the key to our success, the defence certainly shored up quite a bit when Friedrich was eligible to play. Considering he was my only signing I was delighted to finish 10th and the cup win was the icing on the cake, our good form towards the end of the season certainly played a part in that final as usually we would crumble after being a goal down against anyone let alone Bayern. We have one promising youngster from our youth intake, a defender called Thorsten Vogt who is already showing signs of progress. For most of the year we struggled financially and hovered around the £1.5M mark, now we have £19M in the bank so I am hoping for a decent budget in the pre season. With Hamburg relegated there is some scope for bargains plus I have had a few regens catch my eye already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter_Morgan Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Transfer dealings are done for the summer Total Transfers There's been quite a bit of talent come through in Turkey, my scout picked about 7 players who were at least 4 star potential. I also picked a few Germans up to boost the numbers. Yoldas Torun Akgul Plasil Matuszczyk Krizmanic Kopplin Flum Cala Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Yoldas looks quite good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobJoylove Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 What skin is that, Dex if you don't mind me asking? I'm missing my stadium backgrounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter_Morgan Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 What skin is that, Dex if you don't mind me asking? I'm missing my stadium backgrounds Stelko Every year his skins are top notch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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