NicKC13573 Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Is it possible to recreate this style of play, made famous by Helenio Herrera on FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guv'nor Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Catenaccio is a strategy not a formation. Many formations have employed this strategy, the 1-3-3-3, the modernised Metedo, the 1-4-4-1. What formation do you want to play with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finknottle Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Is it possible to recreate this style of play, made famous by Helenio Herrera on FM If you go onto Wikipedia and type in catenaccio, I am sure that there is an illustrated example of the formation Herrera used to set up his catenaccio tactic. Good luck with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStu94 Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Have a read of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicKC13573 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 Catenaccio is a strategy not a formation. Many formations have employed this strategy' date=' the 1-3-3-3, the modernised Metedo, the 1-4-4-1. What formation do you want to play with?[/quote']either a 4-3-3 or a 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUCK IT Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 What strategy would you use Defensive, Counter or Contain. Im trying to develop a Catenaccio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicKC13573 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 a counter style, I think that would suit my XI just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 After draging some insperation from the wiki and the info found in this thread, I settled for developing a 4-4-2 zona mista, so far i have only tried it in one game, which i won 2-0 vs werder bremen playing as stuttgart (I joined em 10 games into the league 2013, since i was not really pleased with how my Toon team turned out) im still trying to figure out how to set up the left side cm, and the deep left striker (and prolly a few more minor things), but anyway this is the set up i got so far: for current version see post #12 SUCK IT: i would probably use control, counter or defensive, it would be way to hard to score with contain as starting tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUCK IT Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Will look into it Falahk, Thanks for the reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guv'nor Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Think the 1-3-3-3 system would serve the purpose well. Catennacio in principle, places emphasis on man-marking whilst using a free-man, often the sweeper to tidy up anything that slipped through the net. FL.......FC.......FR ...MC...MC...MC DL.......DC.......DR ..........SWP......... The backline can all be assigned to mark the opposition tightly. The fullbacks can take the wingers and the centrehalf, the main centre-forward. Most teams do employ a 4-4-2, so the onus will be on you to assign your scouts to compile a report on the next opposition and identify the main threat. Would use a high defensive line, allowing the sweeper more space in which to recover any throughballs. More importantly, it keeps the opposition further from your goal. The midfield go man for man, which vs. a 4-4-2, leaves you with numerical advantage. The front 3 should be closing down often, with the wide strikers marking their fullbacks if you like. Tend to leave the centre-forward on zonal marking, when playing with a front 3, so he can close down either of the 2 centrehalves. Team mentality, slowish tempo, with mixed-short passing. Time wasting, yes please. Will post a few test drives with this strategy in a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUCK IT Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Guv'nor how risky is this tactic defensively. Looks like it should work however its the spaces between the Full backs and the Center back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 after more testing of my zona mista 4-4-2, I have made the following adjustments: left side striker now set as Defensive Forward left side central midfielder/defend set to close down whole pitch http://www.filefront.com/16080225/Zona-Mista-4-4-2-Stuttgart-Jan-2014.tac/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guv'nor Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Fear not. Its just a split backline allowing for a genuine last line of defence. On how many occassions do you see opposing forwards evade your centreback and watch as his partner stands in aloof watching, waiting to pick the ball out the back of the net? A high defensive line, with a Sweeper-Centreback split, just means that, the attacker has to pass to obstacles before getting a clear shot on goal. Similar strategy was used by Bulgaria in '94 with Ivanov sweeping up any spillages. The space between fullback and centrehalf can be closed by playing with less width and asking the fullbacks to cut inside. For more defensive resolve, have them playing no thrills football, rarely running with the ball and crossing from deep. Short passing bythe fullbacks will help to prevent lost possession, especially if you employ a deep-lying playmaker. If not, then tend to use longball, intention to get the ball far up the pitch and chased by forwards with lots of closing down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUCK IT Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Falahk how is the tactic for you, Thinking of trying it with Arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 I spent the jan window to shift out/replaceing most back up players I had. I had a good first team, but i needed a new keeper, along with a new libero (my planed libero did not wish to renew his contract, since former Stuttgart manager did not play him) and better squad depth. also had my two best strikers crocked on diferent ocations current squad: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 That's pure catenaccio, and the formation Herrera played with Inter, Falahk. Well done for getting it working. Tell me... how is your makeshift sweeper doing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taytaz Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Avg. rating 6.88 isn't bad for somebody ridiculously out of position (according to tue game) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 He could have played 3 games in midfield and got 8s or something, and ofc average rating can be misleading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_mcloughlin Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 What is the starting strategy and philosphy etc of this formation? Will it work with a lower reputation team, eg norwich in prem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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