FM12: Genoa C.F.C. - I Rossoblu

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Hello Dexter nice OP but I was wondering can you reload the photos as I am thinking of starting a save soon with Genoa .... Cheers

Evening lads,

Decided to make a Genoa save, with some encouragement from the creator of this thread, Dexter_Morgan. Genoa have great potential. Good infrastructure, good squad, loyal fans and, above all, a massive likeability factor. Hopefully, with me, legacalciofan and Dexter_Morgan all making Genoa saves, it will boost the interest and following of Genoa in these forums.

Hoping to get a update on here by tonight but, I'm not going to promise anything

Thinking of doing a Genoa save, I want either a French or Italian one but undecided at the moment, the other thing against Genoa is that I'm a Juventus fan, and they have a pretty intense rivalary with Genoa

Thinking of doing a Genoa save, I want either a French or Italian one but undecided at the moment, the other thing against Genoa is that I'm a Juventus fan, and they have a pretty intense rivalary with Genoa

I'm a Juve fan too but, come and join us anyway

Hello Dexter nice OP but I was wondering can you reload the photos as I am thinking of starting a save soon with Genoa .... Cheers

I can do the formations pictures within the next half hour though the 4-4-2 will be changed to 4-2-3-1 as I think it suits the team a bit better. The transfer photos were deleted though unfortunately due to the restart. I do hope that doesn't put you off

Evening lads,

Decided to make a Genoa save, with some encouragement from the creator of this thread, Dexter_Morgan. Genoa have great potential. Good infrastructure, good squad, loyal fans and, above all, a massive likeability factor. Hopefully, with me, legacalciofan and Dexter_Morgan all making Genoa saves, it will boost the interest and following of Genoa in these forums.

Hoping to get a update on here by tonight but, I'm not going to promise anything

FORZA GENOA!

Finally Good to have you on board Llewis

Thinking of doing a Genoa save, I want either a French or Italian one but undecided at the moment, the other thing against Genoa is that I'm a Juventus fan, and they have a pretty intense rivalary with Genoa

I hope you pick Genoa despite the rivalry Northern Gooner I was tempted to do a Juve save but felt it would be too easy once the first season was out of the way, another factor to take in to consideration is that Genoa's formations are probably more versatile than most European clubs which is always an attractive proposition (at least for myself) to be able to build your formation from day one rather than having to make every single transfer with the future formation in mind.

I forgot I had unticked the transfer in first window option and to be honest i've done all the training and pre-season and don't want to go through it again, so will be sticking with the original squad until January.

Finally Good to have you on board Llewis.

Just to let you know, my name is just Llew Anyway, really looking forward to this save. I'm going to make at least 3 formations. 3-4-1-2 [Home formation], 4-3-1-2 [Away Formation] and 4-2-3-1 formation. I believe those three seem to be the most suitable, for Genoa and within Serie 'A'

Sorry Llew, I keep misreading your name

All the screenies that are still applicable are now in the 2 OP's as promised

Don't worry, mate

Anyway, I've managed to increase my Transfer Budget to a healthy £8.8 million but, my wage budget has been scaled down as a consequence. This young man was a major catalyst as to why I chose Genoa too;

Brilliant player; hopefully, once this season is over I will be in a financial situation where I will be able to offer a few million for AC Milan's share of him

Debra Morgan just found you out Dexter

How has the 3 at the back worked for you?

How has the 3 at the back worked for you?

I've yet to play with it yet but, once I get the chance, I'll report back to you how it went I've decided that my 3-4-1-2 formation will be my away tactic. In defence, the midfield should drop deep to make a stagnated line of 7 players.

Looking forward to hearing the results

Looking forward to hearing the results

So far, it works very well. I wouldn't say it a free-flowing formation, that's down to the way I set-up but, it's a very good tactic to go to once you've taken the lead and want to 'shut up shop'.

The formation, which plays with 3 at the back, I use is a defensive minded 3-4-1-2. I attack, the two wide men will tend to help out with the attacking-game. The front trio (AMC; ST & ST) primary job is to fasjion chances for themselves and each other. The Target Man will head the ball down to the AMC where he will then set free the Poacher on goal.

In Defence, my two central midfielders drop deep into DM positions, while the wingers tend to drop back too; this makes a 7-man stagnated defensive line. I have the most central of central defenders to 'Cover' by dropping a little deeper and to sweep up any loose balls while the centre-haves on either side push ahead, close down the ball in an aggressive manner and win the ball back. I can put ti up for download, if you like, to use or to just look at

Monthly Update coming up...

Monthly Update ~ Pre-Season and September;

Hello and Welcome to my first update of my Genoa CFC save. So far, I've enjoyed it. I love to lead teams with potential, like Genoa, to success with some good signing, good financial control and good football. I hope you enjoy this read.

Pre-Season review;

Pre-Season is a big component in a season, in my opinion. It's important to asses, evaluate and alter what you have done. For me, Pre-Season is especially important to test my tactics that I do create at the start of every season. Here's what happened, in terms of games, during pre-season;

All in all, I thought pre-season went quite well. We didn't play as much games as we would've liked but, that was primarily due to confusion in fixtures. Due to the Serie 'A' starting later in the year than most European leagues, the international break comes before the first competitive fixtures are played. Due to a whole host of my season players away with their respective nations, I did have to cancel 2-3 games - I didn't want to tarnish squad morale or confidence by playing games, in which half our squad would've been missing for, after losing by 3-4 goals. I thought we would be more suited if we cancelled the games and focused on training. Disappointed with the loss the Athletic Bilbao but, we did have players missing and we were defensively inept against set-pieces.

August;

TIM Cup - 3rd Qualifying round;

Genoa - 1 (Tadic '10)

Sampdoria - 0

We met our fiercest rivals, Sampdoria, in our first meaningful games of the season; who'd have thought it? It was a good game on our behalf. New Serbian signing, Dusan Tadic, made his debut and became in instant fans favourite by knocking Sampdoria out of the Italian FA Cup. We passed the ball well, kept the ball well and defended well. There were some sticky moments but, that's only to be expected in our first competitive match of the season. Onwards and Upwards.

Serie 'A';

Genoa - 1 (Dainelli '17)

Juventus - 0

Another mouth watering prospect. Still cannot believe we managed to conquer the attacking guile and craft of Antonio Conte and his Juve side. We lined up with an attack-minded 4-4-1-1 and it paid off, especially in the opening few minutes. We dominated them; Dusan Tadic and Alexander Merkel linked up very well while Palacio was brilliant, closing down the defence and being a constant pest. we managed to take the lead with a set-piece delivered from Valter Birsa onto the imposing figure of Dario Dainelli. Brilliant performance.

Summer Transfer Window - 2011/2012 | In's and Out's;

In's;

Marco Davide Faraoni - Internazionale - £875k - He may not have the potential to become a first-team in future seasons but, he certainly does have the raw skills to do a good job on the right-hand side. Every time I've watched him this season for Inter, he's impressed me and I've took full advantage of the affiliation link between the two clubs and nabbed young, promising Faraoni for a considerably cheap fee.

Federico Casarini - Bologna - £3.4 million - This young man has some future ahead of him. I managed to prise him away from Bologna for a £2 million fee with another £1.4 million coming after domestic and international appearances. He possesses great technique and ball skills, those were catalysts towards me signing him. I wan to build a squad which can get the ball down, pass it about and ultimately score goals. Federico can definitely do that and become a integral figure within my Genoa squad. Impressed during pre-season too.

Dusan Tadic - FC Grongingen - £4.5 million - My marquee signing of the summer. Probably one of the most under-rated, or overlooked players on FM12. He's got excellent ball skills; dribbling, first touch and passing are all his forte while, with an attributes of '18' for 'Corssing', he can provide assist after assist. I'm hoping he will thrive in Serie 'A', I expect he will.

Simeona Calvano - AC Milan - £500k (Bought Milan's 50% stake) - Another good youth prospect. The 18-year old, who only joined AC Milan last season from Atalanta, has joined my Genoa outfit on a full-term basis. I predict he will become a valued member of my squad with some good development and tutoring.

Out's;

Lukas Zima - AS Roma - £120k (Co-Ownership Deal) - He's still with me at the moment; if he impresses, I will look to sign him on a full-term basis. He's a good prospect. Already a Czech Republic youth international.

A few final words...

What type of Football will you try and play, Llew? Well, I'm a huge admirer of the passing game. I want to play some good, passing football which will also be efficient and sustainable. I believe that this Genoa side does have the ability to play in this way. I'll also want my players to press high up the pitch, trying to regain the ball high-up the pitch and benefit from it.

Do you recommend Genoa? Yes, Yes I do. Genoa are a team with great potential within a fantastic league, 'Serie A'. If you want to take mid-table side to success within 2-3 years, Genoa is your save.

Keep up the good work Llew, cannot wait for your next update, i hope that your style of play will be succesfull in Italy, and i see that you love to play game similar to Barca ?

Well done so far Llew some good ins too. I'm near the end of the season so will post my report in a bit, not doing fantastic mind as i've struggled to get the 3-4-3 working but i've switched to my 3-3-1-3 I used at Colo Colo and we are playing a lot better at least. Will be glad to get Acquafresca and Papastathopoulos back tbh. Spent quite a bit in the winter too so team blending also factors for a bit of it.

Keep up the good work Llew, cannot wait for your next update, i hope that your style of play will be succesfull in Italy, and i see that you love to play game similar to Barca?

Cheers mate I think my brand of football will succeed in Serie 'A'. We've seen Napoli play a attacking style of football and it's achieved success; same goes for Juve this season. It's better to play like Barça than Stoke, in my opinion

Well done so far Llew some good ins too. I'm near the end of the season so will post my report in a bit, not doing fantastic mind as i've struggled to get the 3-4-3 working but i've switched to my 3-3-1-3 I used at Colo Colo and we are playing a lot better at least. Will be glad to get Acquafresca and Papastathopoulos back tbh. Spent quite a bit in the winter too so team blending also factors for a bit of it.

Cheers 3-3-1-3? That seems to be an interesting formation; is that the formation that Marcelo Bielsa used with the Chile national team in the 2010 World Cup. Keep us up-to-date on how you get along. I can't wait to get some of the loanees back too, especially Robert Acquafresca and Mattia Destro. Both are good finishers of the ball and, with Rodrigo Palacio showing signs of decline, I need a clinical finisher

How does the 3-3-1-3 look like? Screenshots and description welcome!

It's still work in progress ATM as I don't have as many players to fit the original as I like. What it does do well is keep hold of the ball and create lots of chances, unfortunately my forwards can't hit a cows arse with a banjo which is why i'm looking forward to getting some of the players back next season along with definite incomings of Sanogo and Betolacci. Considering letting Palacio and Veloso go out of my 1st teamers next season. Ribas, Ze Eduardo and Lucas Pratto will 100% be on their way as i'm sick of them tbh

As I said earlier the season didn't go as well as I would have liked, stupid late goals conceded was my main problem and the lack of goals was also a bit worrying.

With the transfers in January I should have been looking at top 6 tbh, I was 5th at the time I started bringing players in so it was a strange one.

Haven't really bought any first team players in the summer due to players coming back in the positions I wanted to strengthen anyway but I have brought in some cracking potential.

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc476/dexter_morgan5/Genoa/castro.jpg[/img]"]Castro

Lizarraga

Lomidze

Vojacek

I have an eye on one or 2 more players, but for some reason the offers get accepted as do the contract offers but the deal never goes through. Winding me up tbh as they are both French so it's not a work permit issue :confused: Also I have sold Palcio for £7.5M with a 25% cut of his next sale

EDIT Forgot to post all the other ins and outs for the upcoming season

Transfers 1

Transfers 2

Transfers 3

It's still work in progress ATM as I don't have as many players to fit the original as I like. What it does do well is keep hold of the ball and create lots of chances, unfortunately my forwards can't hit a cows arse with a banjo which is why i'm looking forward to getting some of the players back next season along with definite incomings of Sanogo and Betolacci. Considering letting Palacio and Veloso go out of my 1st teamers next season. Ribas, Ze Eduardo and Lucas Pratto will 100% be on their way as i'm sick of them tbh

What kind of results have you had with the teams you've used it with? Looks interesting. And what about individual instructions, are they the default ones?

I just started my save and will be sorting out my back room staff as well looking for some good signings as I want to play three at the back like genoa does irl 3-4-3.. nice update Llew_Arshavin23 and Dexter_Morgan. Also if you have any advice on staff as this will take me a long time haha due to the board not giving you many spaces for staff. Buon Natale

legacalciofan, glad to have you aboard. Here's the staff list, they are mostly usual signings me for me and usually end up at least 4 star if they already aren't. Lulinha and Ruben Sosa usually end up good attacking/technical coaches as well.

I forgot to mention earlier, you'll get an offer for Papastathopoulos around the 25th June 2012 due to an agreed price, offer him a new contract either just before then or when Bremen bid and he'll stay with the club.

Afternoon and Buon Natale, as the Italians would say I'm going to jump straight into this and say that I can't get into this Genoa save; I blame my lack of Christmas spirit. I've gone off FM12 recently too, it's become quite boring. I'm going to try and reignite my love for it by playing with Málaga and possibly a Bundesliga or nPower Championship outfit

Don't worry though. I'm keeping my Genoa save in a separate file so, when I do get back to my former FM-loving self, I'll be straight back on my Genoa save Good Luck with your saves, lads!

EDIT: Upon second thoughts, I'm just going to start a new Genoa save

What are you finding wrong with your save Llew? I must admit the 1st season is hard. Destro and Papastathopoulos in particular prove to be big misses but hopefully my report can encourage you to stick with it.

This season in the main couldn't have been any more different than last season's inconsistencies. After a slow start I scrapped the 3-3-1-3 and went to a 3-1-1-3-2 (or 3-2-3-2 depending how you see it)

The principles of it aren't a million miles away from the 3-3-1-3 as we still average over 60% of possession in 3/4 of the games we play but by making the CM and DM roles a little less complicated which allowed Veloso and Jali to shine. Kadlec, Destro and Sanogo had decent if unspectacular seasons, all three had injury problems at some point as did my entire midfield bar Jali so that is something i'm looking in to. For the upcoming season I am going to drop the AMC back in to a CM role as i've found both Roberto Firmino and Thomas Drage next to useless there, in fact i've decided Firmino will be sold if I can get a decent replacement, Drage's ability to play all over midfield and upfront saves him from the chop for now. I sold Acquafresca in January for £5.25M with a 15% sell on as he just couldn't get going for me and I brought in Marlingo from Atalanta who always seemed to impress against me and was certainly important when he joined.

Defensively we made a big improvement this season, the return of Papastathopoulos and the free signing of Montoya made a big difference there as you can see in the squad ratings.

Winning against big clubs is still a problem for us though we did get a very creditable draw at Inter and won at Juve.

We were always in a European spot from October onwards but I was expecting a drop at some point which never really materialised and by March we were comfortably in the 3rd CL spot but the draw at Inter coupled with a Milan win against Juventus meant we had closed down Juve's 9 point lead at the top which they had before we won there down to 2 points. I never really believed we could win the league and the 3-0 loss at Napoli should have killed us off but Juve never really kicked on and we managed to spectacularly score a 94th minute winner at home to Palermo in the penultimate game of the season to lead the table for the first time. As we kept missing chance after chance in our final game against Fiorentina I was convinced we'd blow it as any kind of Juve win at Napoli would have seen them win the Scudetto on goal difference due to our identical head to head record, but Napoli did me a good turn with a late goal to beat Juve and hand us an unexpected championship.

I've made a few signings for the future already

Almeria 4 star potential

Ricardo 4.5 star

Ricarrere 4.5 star

Sikora 5 star

My main aim now is at least 1 CM maybe 2, Asamoah, Isla and Marvin Martin seem to be the best available to me as it stands, though i've not ruled out Casemiro and Pjanic.

I'll report back once my dealings are done and I know my CL group

Have you tried playing the Sweeper in CD? What about having two DMCs, one as DLP and the other as a breaker of play?

What are the aspects you're unhappy with? I notice your FBs are on defend but Montoya contributed goals and assists too.

Dexter_Morgan - Yes; I've decided to just start a new Genoa save Expect a Pre-Season update by tonight.

Well Done on winning the league, by the way. What a fantastic achievement! Champions League football is coming to the Stadio Luigi Ferrari Looks like AS Roma had a disappointing season too; 16th at the end of the season. You may be able to pick up a few AS Roma players on the cheap after that season.

Keep us up-to-date on how your young regens, Ricardo and Sikora, develop too. They look fantastic for players so young. Great Update mate.

Babak - I'm pretty happy with the defence as it is now tbh, I have too many players if anything and am having to loan out Polenta, Lizarraga (who will be first choice LB next season if his time at Celta goes well) and Martial (I may actually sell him now I have Ricarrere)

Midfield was nowhere near as bad when I changed the formation but i've decided that Veloso is missing too many games so he went for £5M, Kucka went for the same amount as well and in comes Coquelin for £5M, Cristeg on a free, El Shaarawy joined as well as me giving Vojacek a proper chance this season and Lomidze having a year in Serie B. Castro will get a few more games on the wing and if he fails I already have a few targets in mind.

Llew - good on you, I certainly found getting a few of the returning players helped me. Sikora is going to be a default sub around the 55 min mark in most games this year I feel. As for Ricardo I have to wait until 2015 for him, but he's already in Flamengo's first team which should mean he'll be an automatic starter for me when he does join.

I have just been offered Julian Schieber for £8M, does anyone have any experience of him? I've bid as I think he'd be an excellent tutor for Sikora, but it'd mean letting one of Kadlec or Sanogo go (Destro is staying as I need to keep some Italians in the squad) so thoughts are welcome quickly as it won't be long before it goes through

Player instructions are generic or you custom-made them?

Shrieber is a goal scoring machine in my Hoffe game for Stuttgart. Good price.

Good price for Coquelin. I got him for almost 10 million in my Saint Etienne save in my 3rd season there.

PI's are generic Babak bar the wide men and strikers switch with each other during the game. I got Schieber, he'll offer me something different to the others I think.

Maestroik - I was lucky with the price tbh, he'd been loaned out the previous 2 seasons and when he came back he was stuck in the reserves. My scout said he'd be £7.5M (which is still decent IMO) but I tried my luck with £5M and got him I did have a £5M bid for Canales accepted but his agent was a pain in the arse. I really wanted him too after having no chance in the last FM and the final patch on FM10

Llew - good on you, I certainly found getting a few of the returning players helped me. Sikora is going to be a default sub around the 55 min mark in most games this year I feel. As for Ricardo I have to wait until 2015 for him, but he's already in Flamengo's first team which should mean he'll be an automatic starter for me when he does join.

I have just been offered Julian Schieber for £8M, does anyone have any experience of him? I've bid as I think he'd be an excellent tutor for Sikora, but it'd mean letting one of Kadlec or Sanogo go (Destro is staying as I need to keep some Italians in the squad) so thoughts are welcome quickly as it won't be long before it goes through

Maybe not having Ricardo join the club for a while may be beneficial to both parties; on your hand, it will allow him to gain regular first-team football and allow you to figure out where he'll fit in and, on Flamengo's hand, they'll be able to keep a prized possession for a while before he moves on. Anyway. Good Luck with your development of your newly acquired regens

Julian Schieber does look a very good player. Watched him a while back and he looked sharp; If you were to move one striker on, I would move on Yaya Sanogo purely down to the fact that he's too similar to Mattia Destro. You need a smaller, more agile striker to bag the 'scrappy goals'

Babak - I'm pretty happy with the defence as it is now tbh, I have too many players if anything and am having to loan out Polenta, Lizarraga (who will be first choice LB next season if his time at Celta goes well) and Martial (I may actually sell him now I have Ricarrere)

Midfield was nowhere near as bad when I changed the formation but i've decided that Veloso is missing too many games so he went for £5M, Kucka went for the same amount as well and in comes Coquelin for £5M, Cristeg on a free, El Shaarawy joined as well as me giving Vojacek a proper chance this season and Lomidze having a year in Serie B. Castro will get a few more games on the wing and if he fails I already have a few targets in mind.

Llew - good on you, I certainly found getting a few of the returning players helped me. Sikora is going to be a default sub around the 55 min mark in most games this year I feel. As for Ricardo I have to wait until 2015 for him, but he's already in Flamengo's first team which should mean he'll be an automatic starter for me when he does join.

I have just been offered Julian Schieber for £8M, does anyone have any experience of him? I've bid as I think he'd be an excellent tutor for Sikora, but it'd mean letting one of Kadlec or Sanogo go (Destro is staying as I need to keep some Italians in the squad) so thoughts are welcome quickly as it won't be long before it goes through

Looking at your stats, do you feel having the second central striker brings something to your side or he may be implemented better in a deeper role?

Llew, i've decided to keep the 5 strikers for the time being as I can't decide which should go TBH, I get the feeling Sanogo may be the better long term bet but Kadlec is clearly a better player at the moment. I will review it in Jan though.

Babak I will trying Schieber as a target man on support, if I had waited 2 weeks Lukaku was available and he'd have fitted perfectly, though Schieber is still a good choice and his tutoring ability may not be pefect but it's still better than what I had (I always tend to take that part seriously to try and get the best out of my youngsters). The second striker for the moment is important as I don't feel we're enough of a threat at the moment even with 2 up there so going for 1 lone striker would concern me. A 3-6-1 or 3-7-0 with a false 9 are real possibilities in the future, I had a cracking 4-6-0 on FM09 that scored goals galore from all over (my CM was getting 30+ goals a season) and wouldn't mind pushing that further with a 3-7-0 but I think with the amount of strikers I have now i'll have to save that idea for another club (possibly Gladbach or Montpellier)

I am almost at the end of the first transfer window made it through pre-season ok would have liked to score more goals with my 3-4-3 formation. I did bring in some players and yes my strikers got made at me for buying a new striker to help with my attacking formation. So any advice lol as I may have to sale one or two as I will be having another private chat soon with all three which are Ribas, Aleksic and Pratto. Funny thing I have been trying to sale players but none will leave lol or no one wants to offer anything for them. Plus I will need to try and get more goals out of my strikers before we get too deep into the season so I will be tweaking things to see if I get them to score more. Will also try to have an update tomorrow as well.

How are things going so far legacalciofan?

I meant to post this earlier, how the **** did they work this out?

I quite clearly had the better head to head and goal difference in total. I'm not happy

How did Shakhtar fare against Barca?

Won 1 and got hammered in the other. Still doesn't make sense though as it is between the 2 teams going for the place 1st and then the next best team isn't it? Always used to be anyway.

All results between 3 teams count, disregarding bottom side. Did you still better the top 2 then?

No, I only drew with Barca and lost at their place. I was never going to win that anyway to be fair but I have an easy route to the Europa quarters and most of the minnows are going to avoid the big sides who'll play each other either in the 1st or 2nd knockout so if I get a easy quarter draw then i'd been in with a good shout.

I'll do a proper update at some point, but the signing of Schieber and the tweaks I made to his role and the team have added a lot of goals. Defencively we are letting a lot in but I am unsure if this is down to the tactic or having to play an 18 year old keeper for half the season plus a 16/17 year old CB too at times.

Unbelievable Jeff

Good result! But what I wanna know is how did you lose 4-0 there!?

It was a mix of the defence being crap all season, Frey still being injured and having Papastathopoulos, Jali and Montoya out.

Season is finished, just taking the screenies and whatnot and i'll do the report

Are you finding issues with your wide midfielders like most people playing 3 at the back?

Player of the Year

Tactic

I am far from happy with the season tbh, if Juve had not have bottled it again we would never have won the league. In a small part having kids play in goal and sweeper didn't help, especially with communication but it can't be blamed for all my problems at the back. I don't think either full back performed well this season and i've let Anonelli leave on a Bosman. Montoya deserves a second chance, though I am looking at someone to put pressure on him. I will have to make some kind of tweak to the defencive line too obviously as it is obvious that I have to take a share of the blame too.

I've given up hope on Castro making the left wing spot his own and I am seriously considering Eden Hazard or Jovetic for that position, my other options are Lamela or a regen at Shaktar I really should have signed at the end of the first season before they nipped in.

I've decided Sanogo will be the striker to go, I have Almeria incoming anyway.

Really pleased I brought Schieber in, I changed his settings to run from deep rarely as I saw him of more of an outlet than a goal getter but he's done both superbly.

Babak, I only seem to have the problem on the left hand side, the right wing is fine imo.

Of defence or of midfield or both?

Both, just made a few signings which i'll link in a little while for the defence. Shaqiri to sort the wing out for just over £10M is very tempting, Lamela for £7M is another or Pjanic for £8M