jimmyt86 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Why do manager's always come out with a comment regarding the fact my side look to pass the ball into the goal rather than shoot? I have all my tactics as being more direct but constantly I have manager's either saying it is a joy to behold or they criticise?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 - Might be a reference to your shots attempted/goals scored ratio. - Or just an opposing manager trying to wind you up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atightropewalker Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 - Or just a poorly implemented feature. Too few possibilities with media interactions seems to lead to irrelevant, vague or inaccurate manager statements. I have scored on over 80% of my shots and received this message... likewise when I won with a 6 goal margin. (Also nice to be told I am out of my depth after beating MU 6-0 with Cardiff). I imagine it is something like the Mass Effect dialogue system - I think the responses are meant to display a tone rather than have the necessary relevance to the game in hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddymunster Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Why do manager's always come out with a comment regarding the fact my side look to pass the ball into the goal rather than shoot? I have all my tactics as being more direct but constantly I have manager's either saying it is a joy to behold or they criticise?? I've had this after a 7-0 win, with over 20 shots. Admittedly I do use short passing and possession football, but the way it words it is poor. "Your team might do better if"... or something. Better?! I just put 7 past you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 This annoys me more than anything in FM. Also just as bad is the out of your depth comments. I got that after beating someone 5-0 on their own ground whilst leading the league by 23 points obviously well out of my depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Fi Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I think it's a flaw in the implementation of that feature. I always get a few of those comments from managers. It was understandable when I played a patient, short passing game but I still have that now despite having switched to a more direct style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 It has nothing to do with your shots or how you play - it is only a "warning" by SI/FM that you have turned "off" Long Shots in your tactic. They don't like it because in RL long shots are an important part of football, but the ME can't handle the decision to shoot from distance well enough so everyone turns it off unless they go pure TC tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehutchenator Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I don't know why every one turns off longshots. I signed a young Dutch central mid who has 7gls from 11 games - all long shots - coupled with is 4 assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddymunster Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Long shots are actually fairly well implemented in 11.3 in my opinion (they were too common in 11.2). They are useful as well because it is a good indicator that your tactical set up isn't really working in breaking down the opposition defence. If you have loads of long shots in a game you are dominating, you should probably tweak your tactical approach or formation as well as just using the work ball into box shout. The only time I set long shots to rarely is for players that have bad long shots & composure tributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Long shots are actually fairly well implemented in 11.3 in my opinion (they were too common in 11.2). They are useful as well because it is a good indicator that your tactical set up isn't really working in breaking down the opposition defence. If you have loads of long shots in a game you are dominating, you should probably tweak your tactical approach or formation as well as just using the work ball into box shout. The only time I set long shots to rarely is for players that have bad long shots & composure tributes. But that means that long shots is only an indicator that something is wrong with your tactic! Noone -wants- to shoot from distance if they can help it. I am feeling very confident whenever I play a match where the opposition is too stressed out to keep their calm and avoid shooting prematurely. It is a sign that I defend well. Furthermore, since players with 17+ in Long Shots + Shoots With Power and high Decisions, Flair, Technique, Composure and Creativity normally score only a few (certainly less than five) goals from distance per season, the whole long shots thing is so unimpressive that it is genuinely worthless! I mean, even players with no prerequisites to score on long shots at all manage to do so now and again? If Long Shots is to be a skill that is worth its CA points, the decision of when to shoot from distance needs to be part of that attribute. Right now the difference between 1 and 20 in this attribute is whether you get a corner or not, with the additional drawback that their keeper will gain confidence for each useless shot that he saves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I just ignore them. They're meaningless, to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyt86 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 I haven't turned off long shots.....well not knowingly anyway!! how can i check?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigano21 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Talking about poorly carried out features, what the hell is the point of being asked your thoughts on a referee performance, I once had a player sent off and two goals disallowed and questioned the performance of the ref and still got slated by the FA and the board. Totally pointless as it literally is a case of doing better if you say nothing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I haven't turned off long shots.....well not knowingly anyway!! how can i check?? It is just a figure of speech - all the Long Shots sliders are set to Rarely. They still shoot from distance but you tell them not to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Talking about poorly carried out features, what the hell is the point of being asked your thoughts on a referee performance, I once had a player sent off and two goals disallowed and questioned the performance of the ref and still got slated by the FA and the board. Totally pointless as it literally is a case of doing better if you say nothing? Well in real life those are mind-games intended to swerve refereeing decisions your way over time, similar to the "Argues with referees" PPM. I don't know if either actually do that in FM, but I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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