Ackter Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Background: I'm Welsh, in 2055, have won the league the last 24 seasons (and by the looks of it, am not going to win the 25th cause I was daft enough to try and make 442 work when I didn't have the players for it :/ ) I have applied for the England job every time it's become available but have never been successful, despite getting offers from every top nation every time they fire their manager (I've won the World Cup, Euros and the American-based cups with different national teams already). So, the only reason I can see for not being hired is that I'm Welsh - which is one of England's rivals. Anyone else experiencing this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Perfect Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I'm in a very similar predicament as a Northern Irishman. I won the Euros with NI, and have won the quadruple many, many times, but England never consider me. In fact, they only ever hire English managers in my experience. Whether it's a rival thing or a national identity/patriot thing I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 England have just hired a '37% win ratio over 237 games' manager ahead of a '78% win ratio over 3,054 games" manager... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 In two seasons, as a dual nationality English/Spanish manager, enjoying a high reputation and success, I've applied for quite a few international jobs, unsuccessfully. I perhaps wasn't quite there for the Spain job, which Guardiola took. Completely understandable. England job has yet to become available, but I suspect I won't be considered, having only managed in Spain. I've applied for jobs with Holland (didn't get), plus African nations such as Nigeria, Mali, Senegal... didn't get those either. The "bigger" nations I can understand, but the lower reputation nations, a little difficult to accept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 I've been offered pretty much every other job in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
megafan2005 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 At least in FM10 I remember being told I could not sign a coach because he had previously been a coach at Tottenham and I was Arsenal and he didn't want to coach at one of his former clubs rivals so perhaps rivalry is implemented at that level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Seifer Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Might be quite realistic for certain countries. Spain has a policy of only signing national managers, for example. (They had an English one, but that was over 80 years ago). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 This is a game - realism should only go so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Having been rejected for a number of the more attractive national team jobs, I've made my mind up... ...I'm going to start a new world order - with Andorra! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcleod_69_69_69 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I agree, I'm Scottish and the Northern Ireland job became available and thought I'd have a go, but they didn't hire me. I had a suspicion that me not being Irish was the problem so I added a manager and took over N.Ireland, then retired. I did this four or five time and each time a different manger was picked of N.Irish nationality. I was better than all of them so I kind of don't go for International jobs for this reason. But saying it's due to rivalry is a bit silly because I don't consider the home nations to be rivals apart from England (Who nobody likes). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 They're all rivals of each other in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Seifer Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 This is a game - realism should only go so far. Sadly, that's part of what makes a national team what it is. Personally, I agree with those policies. National team should mean national manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamers Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I have seen me (dual nationality English/Icelandic) rejected from the Iceland job 3 times even when I am the most successful manager in Iceland. It happens. I just cope. Instead I got the Croatia job. It's hard to get a good international job without stating at the bottom in FM11. I started with Tonga, lost every game but drew 1. Then I got the Guinea-Bissau job, then Ivory Coast then Croatia. It works like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicKC13573 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I have seen me (dual nationality English/Icelandic) rejected from the Iceland job 3 times even when I am the most successful manager in Iceland. It happens. I just cope. Instead I got the Croatia job. It's hard to get a good international job without stating at the bottom in FM11.I started with Tonga, lost every game but drew 1. Then I got the Guinea-Bissau job, then Ivory Coast then Croatia. It works like that. how was the tongan job? any talent at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamers Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Lets put it this way. A donkey has more skill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Well... with my English/Spanish dual nationality, I lost out to none other than Stuart Pearce, who always seems to get the England job in my saves. That said though, I did accept the booby prize, which was the England U21 manager's job. When/if Stuart Pearce gets the boot, I'll be there waiting with a smile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamers Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 When you mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Hall Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I find it oddly easy to get a job. England seem to go for foreign managers in my game including Ancelotti and Benitez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
promacuser Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I got the job as England manager after moving Hereford up to the Premiership from League Two over about eight seasons. Got the English job 14 years in with my American nationality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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