Praczy Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I've just got a very good 16 y.o. striker promoted. Championship potencial (I'm in League Two). Scored a hattrick on his league debut. What should I do to not waste his talent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 play him about 25% of the season max i think out of intrest what team are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 play him about 25% of the season max i think Is it possible to overplay youngsters and limit their progress? I don't mean to the point of fatigue, but it is possible to overexpose young players to first team action? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Is it possible to overplay youngsters and limit their progress?I don't mean to the point of fatigue, but it is possible to overexpose young players to first team action? yes, im not exactly sure what the best amount to play them is but at 16 i would say 25% max mostly from the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsanj Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 in one of my saves i have a regen whom ive played 90% from the age of 16, hes now 18 and close to his peak already, but hasnt shown any signs of over using him yet. However, like andyprime said, involve him a lot from the bench and do not play him too much unless you have to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemoon1992 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Training is import, search around the forums to see the best training downloads then adapt them to suit your youngster. any print screen of him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc 4 ever Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 am liverpool i got a good dm regen at end of first season and he been in the first team since after sellin my only other dm and he is fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praczy Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Training is import, search around the forums to see the best training downloads then adapt them to suit your youngster.any print screen of him? http://i40.tinypic.com/vscm4h.png Here he is (I hope this works) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 If he is good enough...play him. If he is not ready, he will not be good enough and therefore the best thing to do is give him small periods of exposure to the first team. If he is playing well, keep him in the team, he will get better if he has the potential to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 good player, fantastic team! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I would use the example of Romelu Lukaku at the moment at Anderlecht. He's a brilliant talent, but the manager tries to use him as sparingly as possible so as not to burn him out. Is a good model to follow in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I would use the example of Romelu Lukaku at the moment at Anderlecht. He's a brilliant talent, but the manager tries to use him as sparingly as possible so as not to burn him out. Is a good model to follow in my opinion. This is waht I'm wondering about in FM. There's obviously physical burn out, which is pretty easy to spot but is there any kind of mental burn out? Can giving a 16 year old a full season but keeping him perfectly fit damage his prospects if he doesn't get the 'feeling the pressure of public expectations' worry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 This is waht I'm wondering about in FM. There's obviously physical burn out, which is pretty easy to spot but is there any kind of mental burn out?Can giving a 16 year old a full season but keeping him perfectly fit damage his prospects if he doesn't get the 'feeling the pressure of public expectations' worry? i think it differs from player to player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefc22 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Get him in a striker based training schedule, and play him as much as possible. I don't believe in burn-out for young players in FM, and the more you play them, the more they will improve and the better that they will get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I imagine personality and some of the hidden stats would play a part in things. Would make for a good CSE experiment. Put a team of strong 16 year olds in a relatively easy league, manage them, and play them in the season, using some rotation with back up youngsters, and see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Get him in a striker based training schedule, and play him as much as possible. I don't believe in burn-out for young players in FM, and the more you play them, the more they will improve and the better that they will get. That's what I've always done, I just wondered if anyone knew any good reason why I shouldn't be doing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay10 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I once played Marek Hamsik in practically every game of the first season in FM09 because I had such a small squad. It said he was jaded and in need of a rest, but I carried on playing him. His attributes fell a quite a bit, he was poor at the start of the new season, and then got injured for 6 months. So maybe it works on a greater scale for even younger players. Basically I think if you play them week in, week out, it could be a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Oh, I'm not talking about running them into the ground, just playing them as much as possible at full fitness. None of my youngsters ever get to the point where they need a rest, I'm not taking things that far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I think you should play him every opportunity you get that will not put him under too much pressure. Ex: If you got a 3 goal lead, if your playing preseason friendlies, if you are heavy favorites, matches towards the end of your season if you are not fighting for relegation/promotion etc. Make sure to tell him 'No pressure' before games you do play him. Good Luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peljam Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 That's what I've always done, I just wondered if anyone knew any good reason why I shouldn't be doing this. The only reason I can think of is if they are not playing well. If they're playing 30ish games a season and are bad for the majority of those it might knock their confidence, lower their morale and I guess motivation. All guesswork though, I don't know if that has an effect on training and development! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looknohands Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Don't forget to partner him up with a good tutor if you can. I try to have at least one veteran striker/mid/defender on my squad at all times to help out my youngest players. A high determination stat is the main thing I look for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedore Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 First team action, a good tutor, and try to develop his physical stats for the first 12-18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praczy Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Ok, silly question. How do you assign tutor? I seems to be only able to do that when my backroom staff suggests it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Ok, silly question. How do you assign tutor? I seems to be only able to do that when my backroom staff suggests it. It is via the player interaction, but will only appear under certain conditions. Shame I can't remember what those conditions are but I'm sure you can't do it while teaching him a PPM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFraser Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 This is waht I'm wondering about in FM. There's obviously physical burn out, which is pretty easy to spot but is there any kind of mental burn out?Can giving a 16 year old a full season but keeping him perfectly fit damage his prospects if he doesn't get the 'feeling the pressure of public expectations' worry? Well that's the thing really. Mental "burnout" doesn't exist in the same way as Fatigue and Jadedness exists, but something like "mental burnout" could appear to happen if his Reputation accelerates away before his Personality has developed to cope with the consequences. There is 'feeling the pressure of public expectations' but the same player could also easilly be distracted by other managers or get far too full of himself and generally be far more likely to display all those nasty negative traits/problems associated with poor personalities. And if his Reputation does rocket away too far too quickly, it becomes incredibly difficult to Mentor him into a better Personality as mentors need to have a larger Reputation than Mentorees. So developing a youngsters Reputation too quickly in the short term might not lead to a "Mental Burnout trait" but could theoretically completely stunt his entire career, let alone make him more difficult to manage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergey S. Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Speaking of which, anyone done a study on how much Tutoring helps in the increase the hidden stat Professionalism? I've got couple 16/17 year olds in my team with 3 or 2.5 star potential ratings and Balanced personalities. They're now in their second round of tutoring and their personalities are still Balanced and normal stats have barely gone up in about a year. I play as Man U, it would be hard to get them too much play time unless I thought that they could get close to their Max quick. Meanwhile bought a 16 year old that came with Professional personality, and he's been getting a lot of normal attribute increases. Only had him tutored once as he's a midfielder and the only other Professional midfielder I had was Fletcher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFraser Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 If it's anything like Determination it could go up by 3-4 points a Mentoring session, if you pick a quality Mentor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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