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17 hours ago, phnompenhandy said:
I don't know either, but I use it more than the other gestures. For me, it's kind of neutral - they don't deserve a hallelujah, but they've done nothing to complain about. Whether that's any different to 'no gesture', I don't know.
That's how I use it too, when the lads have done well but don't deserve the full 'arms outstretched in praise' gesture, maybe after a routine win, but when warning against complacency isn't needed.
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Hello, I've been trying to get a 442 to work in Scottish League Two (managing Stranraer) but need help please. I'm stuck in mid table, despite having a team that's above average (but not outstanding) for the league, predicted third (out of ten) and with the board wanting the playoffs (which means top four). So I'm underachieving by all measurements. I'm in season 2, with 8 wins, 4 defeats and 10 draws after 22 games, fewest goals conceded but only about half way for goals scored. I clearly need to convert some of the draws into wins, but can't work out what changes to make without being too gung ho and turning the draws into defeats instead. Results are inconsistent, as I have similar records against the top and bottom teams. According to the team comparison, my team has the best vision, but the lowest jumping. Nothing else is particularly good or bad, although I'm a bit above average in most attributes.
My aim is to play more direct to mirror lower league teams, and to play an attacking game in the opposition half and to win the ball back quickly. I know the tactic is risky defensively, but I hope to win by outscoring the opposition. My setup is
DLF(s) AF(a)
W(a) CM(d) CM(s) W(a)
FB(s) CD(d) CD(d) FB(s)
SK(d)
In posession: Positive/More direct passing/Low crosses (my attackers are very small)/Higher tempo
In transition: Distribute to full backs and centre backs (because my keeper was hoofing it upfield where my two small attackers were outjumped by opposition centre backs and the ball was coming straight back)/Counter/Counter press
Out of Posession: Higher DL/LOE/More urgent pressing/Force outside
The only PI is on the CM(d) to take more risks because he has the passing/vision/decisions/etc. He should perhaps be a DLP.
Any advice is welcome.
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39 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said:
Finally trying to get the club I support, Stirling Albion, to win the Champions League. Never came close before, determined to do it this year.
Scotland League 2 for me as well, Stranraer, the Scottish team I adopted after a holiday job near there. Still fiddling with the demo so not decided yet whether to get FM22 and start afresh or to continue the really enjoyable season and a bit I've got through in FM21 (lost in playoffs ironically to Stirling, but more importantly invested considerable time completely revamping the squad so already attached to the save). I doubt I'm good enough to dominate, but I'd like to become an established Premier Division club. A shorter term aim is to reach the Championship and avoid relegation which I don't think Stranraer have ever managed in real life.
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The demo is out now, I'm playing it. Not sure how long it goes for though, assuming six months.
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I turn the sound off to listen to music. I don't mind the sounds, it's more that between matches the (real) world seems so quiet I want to cover the silence and I can't be bothered to turn music and sounds on and off whenever a match starts or ends so I end up with music all the time.
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For my FM21 journeyman it was all five British and Irish leagues with every division, then the top division from the seven top European leagues. So 25 divisions from 12 nations. All playable/full detail.
My PC isn't the most modern and has struggled toward the end of FM21's cycle so I'll reduce the numbers and/or detail level for FM22.
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I've done 20 seasons in FM21, starting my single journeyman save when I bought it on release. So that's about two weeks a season on average. I started in N Ireland tier 3 with 22 league matches, and I'm now in the Italian top flight with 38 league games plus Champions League. The different number of games means the time for a season varies wildly, so my average of three matches a day is probably more meaningful.
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I've tried it a couple of times. I couldn't decide whether to have a single club save or whether to move from club to club so decided to do both at the same time. I gave up for three reasons; firstly it obviously took twice as long to play a season, secondly I found one club/manager more interesting than the other so the one out of favour became a chore, and thirdly I found it confusing working with two clubs' shortlists etc.
I always thought if it works it would have been great fun, but after a couple of attempts I decided it wasn't for me.
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I voted 1860 too. I thought about Germany 3 for my save this year, as there are several sleeping giants or the opportunity to make an eastern side champions of Germany for the first time since unification. I was looking at Kaiserslautern but 1860 would be good too.
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22 hours ago, DasMagicMullet said:
Well, 1 documentary on East German football and I've hand my mind changed. Definitely going to start the save in Germany as one of the East German champions who are languishing in the lower leagues and try to restore their glory.
If I can find a Regionalliga database then I'll start as BFC Dynamo, who won 10 consecutive titles in the 80s before being dumped into the 3rd division when the Berlin Wall fell.
If I can't find that database early on then I'm starting with Dynamo Dresden (8x East German champions)
I agree. I seriously thought about restoring an eastern German side to its former glory but I don't enjoy leagues I don't know so much so decided against it, but I think it would otherwise be a fun challenge.
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I did several decades in the simpler days of CM2 and 01/02 etc, which is hefty for me. I've managed 19 seasons in FM21 due to more time, which is my longest for years. It's not quite as impressive as it sounds as I spent my first few seasons in the N Ireland lower divisions which have relatively few games so I whizzed through several seasons.
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The short answer: I've decided to do a one club save instead of a journeyman, for the first time in many years. It'll be Stranraer.
The long answer: I prefer managing in countries where I know the geography (local derbies etc), the pecking order, league rules, and where I've heard of all the clubs. In my case, that narrows it down to Britain and Ireland.
I prefer a smaller team because I struggle with tactics and in the lower leagues tactics can generally be simpler and mistakes more forgiving. I also prefer working with smaller squads and coaching teams because I think I get to know the characters better.
I discounted Ireland and Wales because they only have two tiers in game and I want to take a team up several divisions, although living in N Wales one of my local tier two sides were tempting.
I also put aside Northern Ireland because I usually start my journeymans there and want a change. I discounted England because of the size of the divisions and number of games, I prefer smaller divisions as you get to know your competitors better. That left Scotland, which is fine because I'm an enthusiastic player rather than a good one so it'll be a real long term challenge to take on the old firm, let alone achieve in Europe. In fact I think I'll be chuffed if I can get to the Premiership.
I had a holiday job near Stranraer a few years ago and adopted them as my Scottish team, so once I decided on Scottish League Two they were the obvious. I've got a birthday coming up and I'm hoping for Stranraer shirt and mug to get me in the zone while playing.
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@Christopher S and @MessiMessiMessi thank you for your advice. I think you're both telling me to be more aggressive which is working, a lot of draws have become wins, and only a few have become losses so I've climbed from 6th to 4th (predicted 4th, board wants Euro qualifcation which is 5th) and my fans are also happy with the better entertainment.
@facman that looks logical thank you and I'll try it, although as its a change of roles and duties I'll wait till pre-season to experiment rather than mid way through.
I'm used to my team now and a big factor has been my lone striker who will either get a hit trick or have trouble finding a barn door, so presumably has consistency problems and needs replacing.
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Apologies for reviving this request for help. I'm managing in Scotland in the mid 2030s, having taken over Ross County who are a top six side following a wealthy takeover. My issue is I'm not scoring enough, goals for and against are both low, and what I can't work out is how to up the goals for while staying tightish at the back. Here's my usual current setup:
AF(a)
IF(s) AM(s) W(a)
DLP(d) BBM(s)
FB(a) CD(d) CD(d) FB(s)
GK(d)
Mentality: Balanced
In possession: Wide
Transition: Counter
Out of posession: Lower LoE, more urgent pressing.
I suspect I'm too Cconservative, but everything I've tried fails to convert draws into wins, and seems more likely to turn those draws into defeats. I've tried upping the mentality, the LoE/DL, tweaking player roles and duties, and improving the squad. Is there anything else I can try, or anything I've already tried that is worth giving another go, or a combination, etc to make the football more exciting, and for the team to actually look likely to break a deadlock?
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Thank you all, it seems there are as many different ways of doing things as there are FM players, and no 'best' way, so I'll take @duesouth's advice and concentrate on the more enjoyable bits.
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All my FM games in recent years have been with small clubs. I aim to move my way to a big club, but free time has always meant a new version had come out before I've got very far. I've had more time over the last year, and for the first time may career is progressing, I'm now (mid 2030s) at Millwall who seem to have a rich investor. The board are letting me increase staff numbers every time I ask, and I'm putting together a very promising and quite large youth squad as well as having depth in my first team.
Being used to a couple of coaches and the smallest squad possible, I'm finding it a bit unwieldy. I know how to delegate, just never had to think about it before, so my question is, do people running big clubs delegate staff contract renewal, youth training etc, or do you take the time to micromanage? And if I do delegate, do assistants make mistakes I need to look out for and correct?
I know at the end of the day it's 100% down to what I've got the time and inclination to do, but I'm interested in how experienced big club managers look after their big squads and coaching teams.
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Thank you @Johnny Ace I'll make that change. After I posted things improved thanks to a few minor tweaks as I got to know the tactics and my players (and a lot of familiarity training) but you're right, the general setup seems to work.
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Hello, in the mid 2030s I've taken the manager's job at FCUM, who are underperforming in mid table despite having the second highest wage budget in the National League. I was hoping to use a 433 which I had success with at Fylde (thanks to help from here which was invaluable) but as my star player is my AMC and I don't have a decent DM I've been trying to get 4231 to work, with mixed success. I have a lot of possession but having problems turning it into shots. In summary, the tactic seems just a bit meh and not as good as it should be with the quality of players I've got and I'm stumped on how to get more from it
Here's my setup, although I'm only a few games in and still experimenting with some team instructions, but not found anything to improve performances:
DLF(a)
IF(s) AM(a) W(a)
BBM(s) CM(d) (would prefer a playmaker but don't have anyone creative enough)
FB(a) CD(d) CD(d) FB(s)
GK(d)
Mentality: Positive
In possession: Wide (to stretch the opposition), Play for set pieces (I have a giant, aggressive, brave CB who is potentially a threat), Work ball into box (mainly to slow things down so my support players can get involved in attacks. It does seem to get me a few penalties as a bonus).
Transition: Counter
Out of possession: Higher DL, More urgent pressing.
Ideally as well as getting better results I'd also satisfy the board's desire for high tempo pressing football, although that's only preferred. Any and all advice is welcome.
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5 minutes ago, brookie1402 said:
I'm guessing this means the quality of coaching as 'technical defensive' is a category that you can assign coaches to, rather than a schedule.
That sounds logical thanks, I'll give it a go next time I'm playing.
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I've got a defender who wants more 'technical defensive' training. I can't see a training module with that title; does one (or more) of the other modules cover it? Or might an individual focus on defensive skills do the trick?
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Actually, I think I've sorted this. I've:
* Gone wider, to stretch the opposition
* Lowered my defensive line, to prevent balls over the top
* Lowered my troublesome LB to support, which does enough to fill the hole he left
* Shortened my passing, to keep possession
That all seems to let me keep possession and probe for openings without having to worry about being caught on the break by long balls, so means I can give my midfielders more freedom to help my front three, with full backs providing support too. Against weaker sides the probing with the numbers of bodies I can release combined with continual possession is enough to give me an eventual breakthrough. Against stronger sides who want to play, the original version stillborn fine.
As tactics are my blind spot, both in FM and in real life, I'm quite chuffed to have worked this out.
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Apologies for resurrecting this, but any suggestions for my problem breaking down mid to lower table sides are welcome. If I use the above tactic 'as is' or try being more aggressive I get caught on the break and end up drawing or losing to the fewer good quality chances the opposition creates. I've tried being more cautious/patient in terms of lowering the mentality/passing length/tempo etc, and less aggressive roles and duties, and keeping an extra man back at attacking set pieces, but often end up playing stale goalless draws against sides I'm better than man for man.
I *think* the problem is my left back with an attack duty as counter attack goals are often from his side of the pitch, but he's so important going forward on an overlap I really don't want to sacrifice that but I can't work out how to provide cover for his forward runs.
I've no problems against better sides who are happy to come out and play - in fact I reckon I get more points against better sides than against strugglers.
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Thanks again to @Experienced Defender for your advice. Here's an update, as promised. I'm twelve games into the next season with one more point than at the corresponding stage last year. That's better than it sounds, because I lost some of my better players in the summer so my team is weaker, and also some dropped points are down to my in game management mistakes. The football also looks more fluid so is more enjoyable to watch. I'm winning against the better sides, who want to make a game of it, and against bottom sides who can't cope with my team's better players. My main struggle is against mid table 'bus parkers' who I can't break down as I can't get enough men forward and don't have enough individual ability to create chances from nothing. I'm thinking of reverting to 442 or 4231 against teams like that.
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Thank you @Experienced Defender for taking the time to type this. I'll let you know how it goes, although competative matches matches are a while away as I've only just finished a season.
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What Countries and Leagues do you usually load?
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I don't have a powerful PC so I load the fewest leagues I think give a realistic feel. For a one club save all playable division for that nation plus the half dozen or so top division from that continent. For a career game I don't often stray from Britain and Ireland so all five British and Irish leagues plus a handful of other European top divisions, start at the bottom in N Ireland and then deselect divisions as I work my way up.