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Thank you @Rashidi for another great piece of work and for all that you have to say here and elsewhere. It's interesting to see the halfback stall in the build-up phase on the left or right in a double-pivot system. Can this positional movement be reproduced with another role solely in this build-up phase ? In Olympique de Marseille's last Europa League match against AEK, Rongier and Kondogbia dropped back to set up 3 defenders, allowing Lodi and Ndiaye to make inside calls. There were two sequences of this type around the 6th and 16th minutes, but not throughout the match.

Thank you for this detail @CWaka

Thank you @nico_france for taking part. @Ben Rosier @Zachary Whyte

Hi @nico_france, Thanks for the reply and for your forthcoming contribution.

I did like to share with you some data from my analysis of Gattuso's matches. 2023 Monaco vs. Olympique de Marseille (Ligue 1) Olympique de Marseille vs. Brighton (UEFA Europa League) Olympique de Marseille vs. Le Havre (Ligue 1) Nice vs. Olympique de Marseille (Ligue 1) Olympique de Marseille vs. Lille (Ligue 1) AEK vs. Olympique de Marseille (UEFA Europa League) Olympique de Marseille vs. Lens (Ligue 1) Strasbourg vs. Olympique de Marseille (Ligue 1) Olympique de Marseille vs. Ajax (UEFA Europa League) Olympique de Marseille vs. Rennes (Ligue 1) Olympique de Marseille vs. Lyon (Ligue 1) Lorient vs. Olympique de Marseille (Ligue 1) Brighton vs. Olympique de Marseille (UEFA Europa League) Olympique de Marseille vs. Clermont (Ligue 1) Montpellier vs. Olympique de Marseille (Ligue 1) 2024 Olympique de Marseille vs. Strasbourg (Ligue 1) Olympique de Marseille vs. Monaco (Ligue 1) Lyon vs. Olympique de Marseille (Ligue 1) Olympique de Marseille vs. Metz (Ligue 1) I will edit this message and update it as far as possible for each new match.

To replace Marcelino, OM have chosen a coach with a strong character and proven experience, who knows what he is getting into. THE STYLE OF PLAY Not just Italian To get an idea of what Gattuso's style of football is like, you have to look beyond the familiar clichés about Italian coaches being so obsessed with defence that they forget everything else. Perhaps the best thing to do is to listen to Luis Enrique, a connoisseur. Asked about his favourite La Liga team during one of the memorable Twitch sessions that occupied his stay in Doha during the last World Cup, the former Spain coach had no hesitation: "I love watching Gattuso's Valencia. He comes from Italian football and you might think he's a defensive coach, but it's quite the opposite. He's changed the mentality of his players. I love watching this team because they have the mechanisms to play with the ball and attack from the back. They're able to find space with ease, and I also like Gattuso's energy, a competitive animal." Over the course of a coaching career that began at the age of 35 years, when a neuromuscular disease in his eye forced him to hang up his boots in 2013, the former Milan man has evolved. Initially focused on cover and balance, like all good Italians, he now favours building from the back and his team's ability to move the ball around, with the goalkeeper involved in footwork. He prefers a 4-3-3 formation, and likes his teams to draw their opponents to one side so that they can then turn the game around and take advantage of the numerical superiority. His experience as coach of clubs in Europe's Big 5. Data from all competitions. THE DAILY ROUND Hard work and character No one has forgotten 'Ringhio' Gattuso, the hard-working, grunting midfielder of Milan in the 2000s, who did not have the finest feet or the gentlest disposition in the team. But now that he has become a coach, the 2006 world champion has grown tired, over the years, he has grown tired of constantly being compared to this image, which he feels is too simplistic. On a day-to-day basis, Gattuso is first and foremost a hard worker who spends his days at the training centre. training centre. "I understand that he's fed up with people still comparing him to the player he used to be, because he's a very hard worker. I understand that he's fed up with people still comparing him to the player he was because, as a coach, he puts so many other things into his work," says Italian manager Walter Sabatini, who spotted Gattuso at Perugia in the mid-1990s and has remained close to him ever since. He has the temperament, of course, he is a courageous and sincere man, but above all he is very well prepared tactically. His Napoli, for example, have been capable of some spectacular matches, notably in the autumn of 2020, when they taught Atalanta Bergamo (4-1) and AS Roma (4-0) a lesson, but they have also experienced some real slumps, which is often the case with his teams, such as AC Milan and Valencia CF recently. A lack of turnover, not enough options when the opposition finds a way through, players running out of steam: the arguments put forward differ, but the fact remains that there are air gaps during the season that can hurt when it comes time to take stock, as when he missed out on Champions League qualification on the final day, with Napoli in 2020-2021, after a very good second half of the season. MANAGEMENT Dialogues and outbursts In the clubs where he has played, and in particular Milan, where he is probably best known, he has best known, he has left an image of a strong character strong character, but one that has settled down over time, less impetuous and more reasonable. Like many of his team-mates at the time, Gattuso drew inspiration from Carlo Ancelotti, who knows how to engage in dialogue with everyone, at every level. "He talks to everyone, players, staff, directors, he's an open and very honest person," says an employee who knew him at Milan. Some have bitter memories of him, generally those who didn't play much, while others describe him as an "attentive and humane" coach who, once again, has evolved over time. Initially young and very close to his dressing room, he has gradually understood the importance of keeping a certain distance, but wants to remain involved in exchanges. His temperament is better controlled, but it's still there: "When he gets angry, he really gets angry," smiles a former colleague. Very demonstrative during matches, the Italian has an assertive personality, which can that can cause problems with his managers, over time. But it is also what allows him that allows him not to tremble when faced with complicated challenges, such as when he arrived at Napoli just after a player mutiny and Ancelotti's departure in December 2019. "At the time, the players lowered their eyes when they left the training centre to avoid not to meet the eyes of the fans, and the atmosphere the atmosphere was very heavy," recalls close to him. The latest news should not cause him to waver, and that's at least a start. TACTICAL ON FM Work in progress... Your participation is essential to the success of this tactical recreation

Thank you @Johnny Ace for this thread and for all that you can offer with such passion, heart and kindness on this forum! Being unusual, it was important for me to write about it. Not forgetting the other contributors, without whom this thread and the forum would not be as rich. Gennaro Gattuso arrives at Olympique de Marseille following Marcelino's premature departure. He did his first training session in 433 and will start his first league match tomorrow. I'm going to take a closer look at the thread in its entirety, to try and get you thinking about a tactical recreation of this coach at this club. I look forward to hearing from you

Hello, It would be interesting to be able to implement an option to designate central defenders as clearance players during a goal line clearances. This would enhance the realism, with a goalkeeper with limited clearance capacity, leaving room for his closest team-mates. He could also carry an injury that would prevent him from clearing the ball. From a tactical point of view, it's also interesting. Thanks for reading.

It's official, Marcelino Garcia Toral is no longer coach of Olympique de Marseille. A new thread will be opened shortly once the new coach has been appointed.

Hey everyone, I've opened a thread on Marcelino's tactical recreation of the new Olympique de Marseille. To date, I've tried a number of different roles without being able to come up with a scheme that's as close to reality as possible. It's true that there aren't many participants in the thread at the moment, but I hope things will change soon. I'm wondering about many of the positions, not to mention the 11 holders. More specifically, the attacking duo. I've noticed that they're positioned very close together, almost mirroring each other, on the same line. The ball carrier encourages the striker to come forward and offer a solution, but in my opinion it's the players on the flanks (ML/MR, DL/DR) who should be offering themselves, leaving space for the striker up front. The average positioning of the players below during the last Ligue 1 championship match gives an idea of the tactical scheme to be defined for those who have not visited the thread (Circle = Number of balls touched // Colour = Number of balls lost). You'll notice that the forwards are 'stuck' on the same line. The question : what roles are needed to create this combination ? Thanks for your help

Report from the third Ligue 1 championship match. It should be noted that the opposition was reduced to 10 men in the ninth minute. This has an influence on our overall positioning and our ability to sustain attacks. The fact remains, however, that we are still playing a flat 442. The forwards are side by side, remaining on the same line in the defensive and offensive phases. One of them sometimes (rarely) drops back to provide support. Very often the ML offers this solution, with his very axial positioning. Aubameyang (FWL) Vitinha (FWR) Aubameyang/Vitinha duo heatmap The midfielders on the flanks have a different profile. The ML behaves like a winger, positioning himself very high up to form a line of 4, but also like a winger/playmaker in the centre. During the last match, I noticed sequences where the ML formed a 433 with the central midfielders. The MR has a more complete role, particularly in the defensive phase, helping the DR much more than the ML helps the DL. He can sometimes be found inside the 18-metre box. In attack, he plays at a high level, more in the centre of the park, with a high capacity for percussion. Correa (ML) Sarr (MR) Correa/Sarr duo heatmap The central midfielders stay in the low attacking third, in the half-spaces and are almost never in the spaces or in the opponent's box. The MCR is slightly freer than the MCL, the latter being more defensive and more of an organiser of the game. Veretout (MCL) Rongier (MCR) Veretout/Rongier duo heatmap The full-backs are very eccentric, the DL remains a step more defensive but still takes up the flank. The DR remains the most percussive and free. Lodi (DL) Clauss (DR) Lodi/Clauss duo heatmap The central defenders provide a high line of defence, without creating a high block. Mbemba (DCL) Gigot (DCR) Mbemba/Gigot duo heatmap In the defensive phase, the block was very compact and dense, with the MLs moving inside and alternating pressure, sometimes in the middle, sometimes a little higher up, preventing the opposition from re-launching. The characteristics of the team have evolved. In addition, the average positions of the players extracted from a French site analysing exclusively the club's data. And a mini analysis at the end of the article on the Total Football Analysis website. Links available in the sources. At this stage, the most difficult thing is to define the roles/tasks coupled with the possible PIs. Even finding the roles of the attackers would be a good start. Only the DR is identifiable, as the CWB, but I could be wrong. Thanks for your support. Source :

Thank you @Johnny Ace, now all we need is you

Hello everyone, Great thread, thanks @Johnny Ace for opening it. You share interesting data, in particular player's average positioning data with various tools. It's interesting to know what sources are used. I'd like to take this opportunity to share with you the thread tactical recreation by Marcelino, the new coach of Olympique de Marseille in Ligue 1. Thank you for reading and for your contributions, we need them. You are welcome to join us.

Thank you @Delial for your contribution, well done Looking at the last Ligue 1 championship match, the tactical scheme is based on a flat 442. The goalkeeper in a libero role, playing without risk, short. The central defenders Mbemba (DCL) fairly high up and Gigot (DCR) more in cover. both off-centre. Mbemba/Gigot duo heatmap The wings were very much in demand during this match. Harit (ML), who started the match, played in a very central position, distributing the ball to his team-mates. His counterpart on the right, Sarr (MR), was very active, both offensively and defensively. On the restart, starting from the goalkeeper, he was positioned more on the inside of the game, sometimes off-centre and sometimes more axially, leaving Clauss (DD) to take the corridor. Sometimes an attacking line of 4 was formed in this position (424). A hybrid role that unsettles opponents with its mobility and freedom of movement in attacking and defensive phases, helping Clauss to recover in the middle defensive third. Harit (ML) Sarr (MR) : Don't take the top half into account, as he played on the left wing in the second half. Lodi (DG) tends to stay back to form a line of 3 with the central defenders, although he often offers himself on the left wing given the space left free by Harit (MG) playing at the heart of the midfield. He plays at the same level as Clauss (DD) with the difference that he offers himself a little less up front. Lodi (DL) Clauss (DR) The statistics show that the wings were the main areas of attack. Attack sides The central midfielders, Veretout (MCL) and Rongier (MCR), were fairly low to the ground, and the heat maps of both players show that they were positioned in the high defensive third, just behind the halfway line, supporting the attacks in the low attacking third. Only Rongier came out on the carrier when pressing the opposition's restart. Veretout/Rongier duo heatmap Up front, the duo of Aubameyang (FWL) and Ndiaye (FWR) were almost always on the same line side by side, with Ndiaye dropping back without being too low. Aubameyang/Ndiaye duo heatmap On situations during the match, the type of passes totalled 435 : 373 were short passes, 49 were long balls and 13 were crosses. Total number of attempts 15 : 6 in play, 5 counter-attacks and 4 set-pieces. The question arises as to how to achieve a transcription as close to reality as possible, given the limitations of the current game engine and the roles available on a flat 442. The layout and entertainment on offer are certainly in line with Marcelino's plans for the season. Source :

Thank you all for your interest in this thread. Not for lack of desire or forgetfulness, but rather because I'm struggling to come up with a relevant tactical plan. To tell the truth, I'm not a specialist, but deep down I'm keen to contribute what I can. After 2 matches in the Ligue 1 championship, the available sources of analysis are still too timid. However, the Whoscored website provides some interesting data. Matchday 1 - Olympique de Marseille vs. Reims Player positions Attack sides Heatmap Matchday 2 - FC Metz vs. Olympique de Marseille Player position Attack sides Heatmap Marseille SWOT The heatmap can be viewed position by position on the website. Goalkeeper Lopez (GK) Against Reims (attacking from the right) Central defenders Against Reims (attacking from the right) Mbemba (DCL) Gigot (DCR) Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Balerdi (DCL) Mbemba (DCR) Full-backs Against Reims (attacking from the right) Lodi (FBL) Clauss (FBR) Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Lodi (FBL) Clauss (FBR) Central midfielders Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Kondogbia (MCL) Rongier (MCR) Midfielders Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Soglo (ML) Sarr (MR) Forwards Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Aubameyang (FWL) Ndiaye (FWR) Would any experts be interested in participating in this discussion thread ? Thank you. Source :

Hello, It's a recurring problem every year. Not being able to freely allocate a shirt number to a player in any position, from goalkeeper to striker. This year the goalkeepers are limited to numbers 1, 16, 40 and 50. The aim is to be able to assign numbers from 1 to 99 to all players. It is essential to give players this choice in order to create game experiences that are closer to reality. FM24 is shaping up to be the most accomplished opus of all time, so this detail should not be overlooked if we are to achieve that title. Thanks.

I have tried to load the tatica.fmf file as a theme but it is not identified as such by FM. Great @keysi you're the best ! Thank you for all your contributions @JustHowie @snowofman @keysi

Hello, Thank you for this great work and for sharing. I've seen on many BusttheNet Gaming videos a skin that looks very similar to the Tato23 skin. However, it looks different, for example the player sheet is not the same as shown in the screenshot below. The source video is here Is a different version available for download ? Thank you for your feedback.

Igor Tudor announced his departure from Olympique de Marseille on Thursday 1 June, just one season after his arrival. It was a trying season, during which Igor Tudor put forward the argument of wear and tear, after a season in which the club finished third in the league : A few weeks later, Pablo Longoria decided to entrust the future of OM to Marcelino Garcia Toral, a long-standing friend with a profile synonymous with continuity in the club's project: How does it play ? A dense block and moderate pressure In his five full seasons in the top flight at the helm of Villarreal, Valencia and Athletic Bilbao, Marcelino has always managed to slide his team into the top four defences in La Liga. Particularly faithful to his 4-4-2 formation (which he sometimes swapped for a 4-2-3-1 in the mid-2010s) like Igor Tudor and his 3-4-2-1, the Spanish coach runs his teams with the idea of a very compact block. It's an approach that implies a defensive structure that is as dense lengthways as it is widthways, freeing up areas for opponents who are condemned to skirting rather than penetrating. The main objective is to force the opposing team to play in a deliberately open corridor, in order to lock them in by making assiduous runs when they need to slide in. By closing off axial solutions, his teams take advantage of the slightest opportunity to recover. A central element of his game plan, Tudor's pressing was continuous, individual and without a parachute. In contrast, Marcelino's pressing was momentary, in zones, and with cover. It's a new approach that will take some time for the players to adapt to. Organised in a 4-1-3-2 formation to press forward, Marcelino's men are sticking to their game plan. Marcelino's men stuck to their guns when they came out, defending the axis to force their opponents to play laterally, then closing the doors. The two forwards provide direction, the three midfielders run and the No6 covers. Such is the organisation for a team that presses on the opposition's short ball exits and other low conservations, but which does not particularly struggle to force this type of sequence, given that the midfield block represents the easiest organisation (in particular for the space and transitions it offers). It is precisely for this reason that Marcelino's teams do not stand out from the crowd when it comes to statistics on pressing, despite their willingness to go high at times. Projections rather than possession At Villarreal, Valencia and Bilbao, Marcelino has always had a possession rate of less than 50% in La Liga. A statistic that demonstrates his confidence in his defensive organisation but also his belief in relatively low times of possession to convert. In the 2017-2018 season, Valencia finished fourth best in La Liga with 63 goals scored, despite an average possession of 48.6% (eleventh in the Championship). In order to make the most of the space freed up by the mid-low block or to take advantage of their opponents' disorganisation when recovering from high pressure, Marcelino's teams project very quickly. At the heart of these runs are two central elements: the availability of the 'inside' eccentric midfielder (Carlos Soler at Valencia and Iker Muniain at Bilbao, for example, were freer than Gonçalo Guedes or Oscar De Marcos at the other end), and the complementary nature of the two strikers. In the Basque Country, Iñaki Williams had to play with his back to goal, making one run after another to offer a deep-lying solution or pull back the opposition defensive line, in order to offer space to Raul Garcia, who was further back, facing the game and available between the lines. Carrying on FM Work in progress... Your participation is essential to the success of this tactical recreation Source : L'Équipe, French daily sports newspaper of Saturday 24 June 2023

Marcelino García Toral is the new coach at Olympique de Marseille. A new project for a new topic

New topic to come in the name of Marcelino García Toral.

Hello @Zachary Whyte In which section of the forum will this issue be queued for processing in the next version of FM ? (FM 2024) The idea is to have a history so that members can participate and see the state of progress. Thank you.