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Hello everyone, Since the arrival of Jean-Louis Gasset at Olympique de Marseille following the sacking of Gennaro Gattuso, Illiman Ndiaye has found his best role. His numerous calls and ball grabs make him a real free electron who disrupts defensive lines. In a 433, what roles will you see to achieve the result in the screenshot ? The role of F9(s), DLF(s), CF(s) in this 433 organisation seem the most suitable and creative, but the drop-off dynamic doesn't seem to be as marked as the role given to the player in real life. The addition of a PIs Roam from position and TIs Focus play through the middle does not accentuate a more seated position. I'm sharing the video from which the capture is taken : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJch_23He8E Thanks for your contributions

It's official : Gattuso is no longer coach of Olympique de Marseille.

Gattuso has been sacked. Gasset has been called in until the end of the season. For their first match in the Europa League, the team returned to a 3-5-2 formation. In this formation, too, the central midfielders played off-centre, sometimes very high up the pitch. This movement is more noticeable on the right, where the right-back plays an attacking role.

Hello everyone, Considering the options and capabilities of the current game engine, is it possible to position an axial midfield at the sideline as shown in the screenshot ? Carrilero's role seems to be a choice to offer him which seems limited. The activation in the TIs of "Focus Play Down" does not encourage the player to move further out wide. In this example of a move down the right flank, the central midfielder moves off-centre to the touchline, the winger moves inside and the right-back triggers the sequence when the ball is given, making an appeal as high up the pitch as possible. Thank you for your suggestions/ideas

A change of programme, or at least that's to be expected given the last few games. Gattuso's press conference yesterday before the Europa League play-off match : The message got through. Forget 352.

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Thanks @whatsupdoc @Cloud9 for sharing your ideas with us In the 352 proposed by Gattuso, it seems that the two out of the three are number 8's. In all the roles currently proposed in the opus, without getting too far ahead of myself, the only role likely to have a high positioning is Mezzala. Unless the height of the line of engagement could allow other roles to be positioned high up in the middle ? There is one particularity to note regarding the positioning of the central defender in this match, playing the role of libero in support of the third midfielder. As far as the striker is concerned, I read something interesting in @Rashidi Daljit's guide (The book of roles), in a line of two strikers, each with an advanced attacking role, there is an automatic alternation, with one dropping back to play off-centre and the other positioning himself deeper, on the alert. The pressing forward can also offer support on the flank, helping to build play, as can the false 9, deep lying forward and complete forward (creative strikers). In this scenario, would it make sense to have two AFs ? That is a good question

Hello everyone, Currently on opus 24, is it possible to reproduce this position example concerning the central midfielders in the capture below ? Also, is it possible for a striker to go off-centre as in the image below ? Thank you for your contributions

Gennaro Gattuso's analysis after Rennes vs. Olympique de Marseille in the French Cup gives an indication of one role, that of the left central midfielder in the 352 scheme. Wasn't your team unbalanced in the second half ? Luis Henrique came on for Bilal Nadir. He replaced Jordan Veretout, who played as a left-sided central midfielder in the starting 11. Veretout scored OM's only goal, from inside the opposition box. Mezzala has a role to play as left central midfielder in this 352. For the record, after the Olympique de Marseille vs. Lille match, Gattuso said : It's a good start for the tactical recreation of the 352, only 10 roles left

Thanks @CWaka for planning this issue.

The first half of the season is over. In the last few games, Gattuso has not let go of the 352. This winter mercato period and the choice of target positions will determine the tactical plan for the second half of the 2023-2024 season. Will they respect Gattuso's DNA and credo with his 433/4231 or the 352 'adopted by default' ? It's not that, but I'd love to play this new FM opus

Thank you @Dr Naysay for this message and encouragement, it's true that I feel a bit alone. It would be nice to have more exchanges and sharing of ideas

Against Lyon yesterday, Gattuso came up with a surprise 352. Although it's not a system he's very fond of, the players felt they were playing in roles they like, simply in their best positions. Without going into too much detail about the match, Aubameyang-Vitinha proved to be decisive partners. Will this tactical move be repeated in future matches ?

It's a shame, your work is incredible. Thank you so much @Rashidi. I hope you change your mind soon

Admittedly a little old, but so exciting and interesting for the whole community here. Has this project fallen into oblivion @Rachid ? Thanks.

Thanks @Poison for your reply. More direct passes, yes, which are played on the ground and not over the lines, while maintaining a fairly short game. The BDP must keep in mind that its passing game must be short but direct, with passing intentions in sniper mode.

Watching a few games to try and feed the thread on Gattuso's tactical recreation, I noticed that a lot of line-breaking passes from central defenders are attempted. Aside from the risk-taking involved in passing in the IPs, the possible traits that a player can acquire (with or through mentoring), or even certain roles such as BPD, what would be the recommendations for increasing this type of 'quick' 'flash' 'laser' passes to the ground ? It may not be possible, as the ME limits the possibilities. Thanks.

Thank you for this message @WhyMe Tactical designers, wake up, to satisfy everyone

Thanks for your contribution @寸身辛木 At this stage of the season, Gattuso is proposing a flat 442 defensive organisation. It appears to be his preferred defensive system, used in particular during his time at Milan and Napoli. Didn't he go against the grain at Valencia ? That remains to be confirmed.

I haven't abandoned the thread, nor have I forgotten about it - quite the contrary. I was hoping for a little more interest and participation so that together we could try to define a tactic that is as close to reality as possible. Since Gattuso's arrival, we've been offered two schemes: in attack, a 433 with the Veretout/Rongier/Kondogbia trio in midfield, and a 4231 with Harit in a creative role. In defence, a flat 442. A few analyses from the web. Offensive organisation Width : Width is important, as is the number of players projected into the area. Construction : The construction starts from the goalkeeper, with a tendency to take the ball out to the left to exploit the space on the opposite side for Clauss, a profile that likes to attack the space left free (same picture above). Depth : Space is attacked behind the defenders. Leaning point : In order not to slow down the transition and the projection of his team-mates, the attacker drops back, drawing a defender to his back and creating space for one of the off-centre players. Defensive organisation Opposing build-up phase : Make it difficult for the opposition to build up in the central area of the pitch, as the mobile team block (fairly compact, with players grouped together and close together) can quickly move the ball carrier to one side. The idea is to manage a large part of the pitch while being able to occupy as many corridors as possible (blocking passing lines). Defensive transition : Seek to lock the ball carrier to one side, while maintaining numerical superiority in the area where the opposition's transition takes place. Coordinated pressing : Collective pressing, with the whole team moving towards the ball carrier. The aim is to isolate the ball carrier on one side in order to make a mistake or clear in coordination with pressing on all potential receivers. Don't be shy, come and add to the discussion

Thanks for the suggestion @Rashidi, I've opened a thread here

Hi guys, It would be interesting to be able to "extract" the particular attributes of the roles that are coded by proposing them in the PIs to be activated. For example, a Segundo Volante could very well remain eccentric during the construction phase by forming a line of 3 in defence by activating the attribute in the PIs that is originally associated with the halfback role. Segundo Volante's role would remain that of an explosive midfielder, but would have the special feature of being able to have a mechanism linked only to the halfback role, rather than all of it. All the features of all the roles would then be available in the PIs. Thanks for reading.

In addition, I had forgotten. I don't know if it's possible for Football Manager in the future, but it would be interesting to be able to "extract" the particular attributes of the roles that are coded by proposing them in the PIs to be activated. For example, a Segundo Volante could very well remain eccentric during the construction phase by forming a line of 3 in defence by activating the attribute in the PIs that is originally associated with the halfback role. Segundo Volante's role would remain that of an explosive midfielder, but would have the special feature of being able to have a mechanism linked only to the halfback role, rather than all of it. I don't know if that's clear.