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Ok- What do you change him to if you play an ADF? Or do you keep him the same?
Tend to use an AP(S) with an AF(A)
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LLAMA: Here's a screen shot. Only seem available on wide players.
Fair enough - regardless, the Trequartista can move into channels, so can still make lateral movements.
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LLAMA: You can no longer ask a TQ or any central player to run wide with the ball, how would you look at avoiding the DLF/TQ going into the space and giving the B2B space to attack?
Last time I looked you could...
Neonshake, I suppose this bit - "Specifically ensure that at least 1 of your deepest wide players (so normally a Full Back, but potentially a Wing Back or Wide Midfielder) are on attack duty"It might read as if Llama was saying that that's a rule, which I'm not sure he intended it to. People took it as a necessity, I know myself it's something that I used to always do. I've seen a lot more tactics this FM with no deep attack duties if it suits their tactics, eg Cleon's Art of Counter attacking thread.
There are plenty of tactical variations that go against the "rules" - but there are alternatives, like using a pair of supporting wing backs etc etc.
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Congratulations. I have 10month old twins so I know how life can take over:)
10 month old TWINS! Ouch! Goodbye sleep!
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Is LLAMA still on the forum?Yes.....
Yes, but not much nowadays. Been promoted twice in the last year, got married, and work is crazy busy. So don't have much time anymore.
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I am playing with a club where I have no finances to improve the squad, so I have to play with what I've got.
So far it's:
GK - GK (D)
DR - FB (S)
DC - CD/LD (D)
DC - CD/LD (D)
DL - FB (S)
DMC - DM (D)
MC - CM (D)
MC - AP (S/A)
AMR - W (S/A)
AML - IF (A)
ST - F9 (S)
It's very different from what I am used to, and I would like some advice on how to improve/alter this. I know it's not much to go on, but some general tactical advice would be greatly appreciated.
General gist is that you lack penetration through the team. You should ideally be playing a Support/Attack on 1 flank and Attack/Support on the other if you're not sure how to proceed. You have no real forward running on either flank. The only real directness is the IF(A) but he comes inside. You have no overlap on the left because the full back is too reserved. Your central midfield is far too defensive, get your CM(D) to do something more with the ball. Either a BBM, RP, or even a DLP would at least help offer some more positive use of the ball. A CM(A) & AP(S) partnership could be effective, especially with a false nine vacating space for someone to run into.
Apologies if this has already been asked/ done, but if this going to be updated for FM2016?No - it is all relevant and applies directly. There are no new tactical roles that require discussion.
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No forward running on your left flank, and no width on your right flank. Mentality, instructions, roles, duties - they all depend on what your team's strengths and weaknesses are.
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I want to thank llama3 for this pdf. The single most helpful thing I've ever read on CM/FM.
Thank You. I would highly recommend the Lines & Diamonds guide. It is an absolute masterpiece.
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I must say THoG - every time I hit a slump in form, or a tactical dilemma, I just go and read the right section in the guide and everything becomes clear again. The best piece of work ever done for FM. It's absolute class.
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How should I set the best defensive mentality for 4231 or 41221? I'm looking for the best solid defensive tactic settings. Any idea?
Mentality really depends on far more things than just a tactic. Depends how you want to press, use the ball etc. Ordinarily 4-2-3-1 teams tend to be proactive and more offensive, whereas a 4-1-2-2-1 is a slightly more solid shape.
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Cheers I normally run 4-4-2 but the team I am has an amount of AM's.
Can you suggest alternatives to the the BWM and the inside forward, would wingers be a better option for balance
On the flanks you have 2 alternatives - trying either a wing back behind the inside forward, or a winger in front of a full back. Pretty straightforward choices really. As for the BWM - something disciplined, like a CM(D) would be a bit better, or another DLP could work (support or defend both)
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Hey all, looking for help. Playing in League of Ireland,( a mix of league 2 and 2 with a few players good enough for championship) i'm finding the balance difficult.
How does
Gk(d)
FB(s) LD (d) CD (d) FB(s)
BWM(d) DLP(d)
IF(a) AP(a) IF(a)
AF (a)
Control
Fluid
Narrow
Shorter passing
Stay On Feet
You have no width on the flanks (Full Back - support behind IF(A) is rarely effective, as you play too narrow, with no outlet to recycle the ball). You have a poor mix of duties (all 4 advanced players are on attack duties), so you'll have little effective movement between the lines. I normally go for a 343 rule. 3 defend duties, 4 support duties, 3 attack duties - or similar. You can mix it up a touch. Finally a BWM is not a very disciplined player, which in that formation, in the midfield pair - he should be.
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Hey guys,
Firstly thanks for the guide llama3. As a relative "newbie" to the tactical side of FM I found it very helpful, however I have a couple of questions for you to answer please.
1.) In defence my current tactic is a fairly basic 4-4-2 but when we're on the attack I want it to shift into a 4-2-3-1. I want my right-sided striker to drop into midfield and play as the #10 and my left-sided striker to play as the #9. So what combination is best for achieving this?
2.) In a 4-4-2 what midfield pairing is generally more effective? CM(S) and CM(D) or DLP(S) and CM(D)?
3.) Finally what do you think of my tactic so far?
Mentality/Team Shape/TIs: Undecided at the moment. I'll probably play a possession/pressing based game though.
GK: SK(D)
RB: FB(A)
CB: CD(D)
CB: CD(D)
LB: FB(S)
RM: WM(S)
CM: CM(D)
CM: CM(S) or DLP(S)
LM: WM(A)
ST: ?
ST: ?
Well if you want it to move into a 4-2-3-1 in possession, you would probably do better to have the right sided midfielder on a more attacking mentality. You can do this because the cautious central midfield will offer some cover. This means you can get both your wide men forward, as well as the full backs, if you have a solid base of a midfield. Regarding your striker conundrum - most Support - Attack pairings will work easily. A DLF/CF(S) with an AF/CF/P(A) an be quite effective.
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A Box to Box Midfielder is not a holding player, but can play in a holding pair. He should still support attacks, but get back when you lose the ball.
A CM(D) & CM(S) is a good pairing for the midfield pair.
As for the defensive question - it's a fairly logical way of doing it.
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Hi Llama, I'm playing as Arsenal, 4-4-1-1, how do I create a if-s at ml position?
I know that wm-s is a good start, but I get my doubts in PIs, cut inside would be one for sure,
maybe dribble more, depending on the player,
but I'm not set on Get Further Foward
Looks sound, maybe sit narrower too
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4-4-2 can play possession football, but the central midfield area is technically very limited, and you have both forwards dropping into the same space.
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That was the best part so far for me, it's very rare we see any kind of posts about actual styles of play so its great to see someone else's take on the different styles.
Same here. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Really enlightening. I'm going away from each section buzzing with ideas and thoughts.
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Thanks for the guide, Llama. It has helped me get a good understanding of how to build a system, and where I had been going wrong. I have just one question at the moment.
Your guide states that player mentalities on the flanks should be mixed up, so you have one support and attack in the back 4 and if you have two wide midfieldiers, these should be the opposite way round in midfield, so for example if you have your LB as attacking, your RB should be support, your LM should be support and RM attacking. Why is this?
It's just that point I'm curious about.
It's a recommendation, not a completely unbreakable rule. But it causes more directness on 1 flank, and natural overlaps on the other flank.
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I'm running out of superlatives. This is the most complete tactical guide ever created for football manager. It is mind-blowing. I'm more impressed than I could possibly express.
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Absolutely ball-bustingly brilliant.
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Absolutely belting thread.
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Jean's on the money with that one. Could also try an AM(A) instead of SS to try and get a bit more lateral movement. Wing Back's could work as they are, I would simply try that bit and see.
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Barely any to be honest!