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Important Question

What are peoples thoughts on using Future_regen edt file for adding Current and Future legends to the database? I've had a little play around and although it hasn't worked exactly how I intended, I have managed to add Lionel Messi as a future regen. With a little more investigation, I should be able to get the file correct. Also, I'm wondering if it's possible to add a facepack for the generated players or not. I'm going to do a quick test to determine if their ID comes through as the same in every save. Here's a picture...

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I think it was with FM21 that I was using a database with facepack of legends coming in as youths and the facepack had them photos of them all aged 14, 15, 16, 17. It was brilliant. If future regens is too complicated, you could always do that. If they are regens or 15-16 at the start of a save, they need top PA but CA and attributes reflecting their age in the game.

 

Edit - it was FM21. I kept a couple of player pix

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9 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said:

I think it was with FM21 that I was using a database with facepack of legends coming in as youths and the facepack had them photos of them all aged 14, 15, 16, 17. It was brilliant. If future regens is too complicated, you could always do that. If they are regens or 15-16 at the start of a save, they need top PA but CA and attributes reflecting their age in the game.

 

Edit - it was FM21. I kept a couple of player pix

Ronaldo.jpg.f8ea1fa4540ba81d209c46369d1d5d1b.jpgMessi.jpg.847fc10c79ec7e598add2a02f2d6277b.jpg

Having simmed through a couple of times, I've determined that the ID changes per save, so adding a facepack would be impossible unfortunately. I could add one for my own save, but it wouldn't tally up with other peoples saves.

I already planned to have them edited as you say, starting age 14 & 15. In fact I already created a database with Argentina edited...

Argentina Present & Future Legends.fmf

I did it exactly as you stated it should be done.

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34 minutes ago, MichaelNevo said:

Having simmed through a couple of times, I've determined that the ID changes per save, so adding a facepack would be impossible unfortunately.

Presumably it would be fine if you start all the legends at their boyhood clubs, rather than unattached or as regens?

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28 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said:

Presumably it would be fine if you start all the legends at their boyhood clubs, rather than unattached or as regens?

Yeah it's how I'd already decided to do it, I just like to explore all options. I do like the future_regen idea, but it just doesn't work with facepacks, so it's a no go :thdn:

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1 hour ago, MichaelNevo said:

Yeah it's how I'd already decided to do it, I just like to explore all options. I do like the future_regen idea, but it just doesn't work with facepacks, so it's a no go :thdn:

You can always leave them unattached and let each of us deal with the facepack :)

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7 minutes ago, pedrosantos said:

You can always leave them unattached and let each of us deal with the facepack :)

The problem is most people won't want to or just don't know how to do it and considering it takes a lot of time and effort to make, if very few people would use it, it's a bit of a waste of time which could be better spent improving the database.

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Hello!

First of all: AMAZING job! Huge thanks and congrats!

Now comes my problem: The facepack does not work. I also use the sortitoutsi megapack and the plaers added with this database (or the ones that were recreated because they existed in the game) do not have a face on them.
Any idea of what to do?

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5 minutes ago, un_noob_666 said:

Hello!

First of all: AMAZING job! Huge thanks and congrats!

Now comes my problem: The facepack does not work. I also use the sortitoutsi megapack and the plaers added with this database (or the ones that were recreated because they existed in the game) do not have a face on them.
Any idea of what to do?

You're the second person to mention this and both of you are using sortitoutsi megapack. I'd assume it's because they aren't compatible together. The problem is I've never used their megapack, so I don't really know what it consists of and what might cause the issue.

For now it's up to you how you deal with it as all my time goes into updating the database and facepack. Later down the line when I have more time, I will install the sortitoutsi megapack and see what I can figure out, maybe speak with them to collaborate maybe, to make it Legend friendly.

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Carlos Valderrama
Lev Yashin
Dino Zoff
Peter Schmeichel
Sepp Maier
Pat Jennings
Edwin van der Sar
Paolo Maldini
Giacinto Facchetti
Berti Vogts
Ruud Krol
Víctor Rodríguez Andrade
Karl-Heinz Schnellinger
Franco Baresi
Fabio Cannavaro
John Charles
Marcel Desailly
Paul McGrath
Giuseppe Bergomi
Johan Cruyff
Michel Platini
George Best

22/50 Legends completed. You can probably expect the update by Sunday latest.

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1 hour ago, un_noob_666 said:

Hello!

First of all: AMAZING job! Huge thanks and congrats!

Now comes my problem: The facepack does not work. I also use the sortitoutsi megapack and the plaers added with this database (or the ones that were recreated because they existed in the game) do not have a face on them.
Any idea of what to do?

Check the ID number of those players, get a png file from google, might be necessary to change the size of the picture. Place the new png files inside the folder which contain all your faces. Upload that folder with fm xml, reload your skin and that's it.

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7 小时前, MichaelNevo说:

Important Question

What are peoples thoughts on using Future_regen edt file for adding Current and Future legends to the database? I've had a little play around and although it hasn't worked exactly how I intended, I have managed to add Lionel Messi as a future regen. With a little more investigation, I should be able to get the file correct. Also, I'm wondering if it's possible to add a facepack for the generated players or not. I'm going to do a quick test to determine if their ID comes through as the same in every save. Here's a picture...

?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Lett

 

You could have a look on my file. There are 1001 future regens in total (FIFA Legends/Some National Heros/CM-FM Legends), and there is a file with names of hunreds more you also could check (I don't have enought time to continue doing it recently)

regen_legends.edt More To Add.txt

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first of all thank your for the amazing work its just exactly what i was looking for!

I have a few players to add in future maybe:

German: Franz Beckenbauer, Miroslav Klose, Mehmet Scholl, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Phillip Lahm. Lothar Matthäus, Paul Breitner

Portugiese: Cristiano Ronaldo in young version

Netherlands:  Johan Cruyff, Ruud Gullit, Marco Van Basten, Wesley Sneijder

France: Claude Makelele, Franck Ribery

 

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17 hours ago, LouisLju said:

You could have a look on my file. There are 1001 future regens in total (FIFA Legends/Some National Heros/CM-FM Legends), and there is a file with names of hunreds more you also could check (I don't have enought time to continue doing it recently)

regen_legends.edt 156.99 kB · 3 downloads More To Add.txt 86.71 kB · 3 downloads

I won't be using future_regen unfortunately, can't make a facepack compatible for everyone to use.

16 hours ago, Kaylow420 said:

first of all thank your for the amazing work its just exactly what i was looking for!

I have a few players to add in future maybe:

German: Franz Beckenbauer, Miroslav Klose, Mehmet Scholl, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Phillip Lahm. Lothar Matthäus, Paul Breitner

Portugiese: Cristiano Ronaldo in young version

Netherlands:  Johan Cruyff, Ruud Gullit, Marco Van Basten, Wesley Sneijder

France: Claude Makelele, Franck Ribery

 

Thanks for the kind words!

I will definitely be looking to add those players very soon!

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Il y a 18 heures, pedrosantos a dit :

Check the ID number of those players, get a png file from google, might be necessary to change the size of the picture. Place the new png files inside the folder which contain all your faces. Upload that folder with fm xml, reload your skin and that's it.

Hello,

 

This is what I have done, but it does not work.

I guess I'll keep the black-out faces :)

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Quick update, I've been going hard in adding players to the database! Originally this weekends update was going to be 50 players and I'd already decided the list. However I've since veered away from the list a little bit :lol: 

I can now reveal that this weekends update could be 100+ legends!

51/ 100 Legends completed...

Carlos Valderrama
Lev Yashin
Dino Zoff
Peter Schmeichel
Sepp Maier
Pat Jennings
Edwin van der Sar
Paolo Maldini
Giacinto Facchetti
Berti Vogts
Ruud Krol
Víctor Rodríguez Andrade
Karl-Heinz Schnellinger
Franco Baresi
Fabio Cannavaro
John Charles
Marcel Desailly
Paul McGrath
Giuseppe Bergomi
Johan Cruyff
Michel Platini
George Best
Dimitar Berbatov
Samuel Eto'o
Cristián Zapata
Darijo Srna
Petr Čech
Theo Walcott
Lassana Diarra
Franck Ribéry
Nicolas Anelka
William Gallas
Philippe Mexès
Sébastien Frey
Yoann Gourcuff
Claude Makélélé
Goran Pandev
Marko Marin
René Adler
Wesley Sneijder
Arjen Robben
Massimo Ambrosini
Gennaro Gattuso
Alberto Aquilani
Riccardo Montolivo
Stefano Tacconi
Sebastian Giovinco
Mauro Camoranesi
Andrea Pirlo
Didier Drogba
Ryan Giggs 

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6 hours ago, SAMiles said:

do you use career stats upto the age theyre added or are they blank?

At the moment no, as it is already time consuming to make just a single player, I think it best to complete the database first to an extent. Once I'm satisfied I do plan to go back through everything and fine tune it, so for added realism I think what you've mentioned would be a great addition.

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1 minute ago, MichaelNevo said:

At the moment no, as it is already time consuming to make just a single player, I think it best to complete the database first to an extent. Once I'm satisfied I do plan to go back through everything and fine tune it, so for added realism I think what you've mentioned would be a great addition.

If the plan is to have them as 15-16 year olds with raw potential at the start of the game, they should have no history, unless it's just info on their youth careers at their starting clubs.

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2 hours ago, phnompenhandy said:

If the plan is to have them as 15-16 year olds with raw potential at the start of the game, they should have no history, unless it's just info on their youth careers at their starting clubs.

Not every player starts as 15 - 16, the older the person in real life, the older they will be in game. When im done with the database, if there's enough interest I may provide an alternative where all start as 15-16, but we will see.

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5 minutes ago, MichaelNevo said:

Not every player starts as 15 - 16, the older the person in real life, the older they will be in game. When im done with the database, if there's enough interest I may provide an alternative where all start as 15-16, but we will see.

Actually, it would be great to have two versions of your mod. The facepack could be the same for both.

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100/100 players completed!

The database is now ready for the update, I just need to update the facepack!

Carlos Valderrama
Lev Yashin
Dino Zoff
Peter Schmeichel
Sepp Maier
Pat Jennings
Edwin van der Sar
Paolo Maldini
Giacinto Facchetti
Berti Vogts
Ruud Krol
Víctor Rodríguez Andrade
Karl-Heinz Schnellinger
Franco Baresi
Fabio Cannavaro
John Charles
Marcel Desailly
Paul McGrath
Giuseppe Bergomi
Johan Cruyff
Michel Platini
George Best
Dimitar Berbatov
Samuel Eto'o
Cristián Zapata
Darijo Srna
Petr Čech
Theo Walcott
Lassana Diarra
Franck Ribéry
Nicolas Anelka
William Gallas
Philippe Mexès
Sébastien Frey
Yoann Gourcuff
Claude Makélélé
Goran Pandev
Marko Marin
René Adler
Wesley Sneijder
Arjen Robben
Massimo Ambrosini
Gennaro Gattuso
Alberto Aquilani
Riccardo Montolivo
Stefano Tacconi
Sebastian Giovinco
Mauro Camoranesi
Andrea Pirlo
Didier Drogba
Ryan Giggs
Gianluca Zambrotta
Antonio Cassano
Giorgio Chiellini
Filippo Inzaghi
Daniele De Rossi
Robert Acquafresca
Mirko Vučinić
Édgar Barreto
Carlos Gamarra
Adrian Mutu
Cristian Chivu
Dejan Stanković
Marek Hamšík
Zlatan Ibrahimović
Emmanuel Adebayor
Fernando Gago
Juninho Pernambucano
Jorge Valdivia
Vedran Ćorluka
Sami Hyypiä
Samir Nasri
Jens Lehmann
Robin van Persie
Kolo Touré
Mohamed Sissoko
Nemanja Vidić
Diego Forlán
Park Ji-sung
Patrice Evra
Andrey Arshavin
Henrik Larsson
George Weah
Kenny Dalglish
Dennis Bergkamp
Ian Rush
Eric Cantona
Ferenc Puskas
Ruud Gullit
Duncan Edwards
Oleg Blokhin
Gheorghe Hagi
Marco Van Basten
Michael Laudrup
Brian Laudrup
Shunsuke Nakamura
Kunishige Kamamoto
Myung-Bo Hong
Boško Balaban
Paulo Ferreira

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43 minutes ago, pedrosantos said:

Is that list complete or did you considered the previous suggestions?

The list of 95 is the players which I've completed and other than adding to the Facepack are ready to go for the update. I already had a big list of players before any suggestions, the next update will cater more towards suggestions.

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41 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said:

Doh! The editor's defeated me plenty of times!

Take your time :thup:

I was trying to use the Resource Archive to do something for a side project and I've ended up having to re-install FM24 after deleting everything haha!

Luckily I've figured out where I went wrong and have actually done what I aimed to do :hammer:

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New list of legends for the upcoming update

Argentina Legends

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Diego Maradona
Gabriel Batistuta
Osvaldo Ardiles
Sergio Agüero
Carlos Tevez
Daniel Passarella
Mario Kempes
Javier Zanetti
Roberto Ayala
Javier Mascherano
Claudio Caniggia
Ariel Ortega
Pablo Zabaleta
Diego Simeone
Hernan Crespo
Alfredo Di Stefano
Omar Sívori
Juan Sebastián Verón
Javier Saviola
Walter Erviti
Walter Gaitan
Juan Roman Riquelme
Ubaldo Fillol
Hugo Gatti
Walter Samuel
Marcelo Gallardo
Matías Almeyda
Esteban Cambiasso
Lucho González
Pablo Aimar
Fernando Redondo
Fernando Gago

Belgium Legends

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Jan Ceulemans
Jean-Marie Pfaff
Franky Van der Elst

 Brazil Legends

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Pelé
Cafu
Rivaldo
Ronaldinho Gaúcho
Ronaldo (R9)
Carlos Alberto
Roberto Carlos
Djalma Santos
Falcão
Léo Júnior
Nílton Santos
Rivellino
Romário
Sócrates
Zico
Adriano
Dani Alves
Claudio Taffarel
Dida
Hulk
Gilmar
Kaka
Garrincha
Jairzinho
Tostao
Bebeto
Zé Roberto
Jardel
Emerson Moisés Costa
Juninho Pernambucano

Bulgaria Legends

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Hristo Stoichkov
Dimitar Berbatov

Cameroon Legends

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Roger Milla
Samuel Eto'o

 

Chile Legends

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Jorge Valdivia

Colombia Legends

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Carlos Valderrama
Cristián Zapata

Croatia Legends

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Davor Suker
Darijo Srna
Vedran Ćorluka
Boško Balaban

Czech Republic Legends

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Pavel Nedved
Petr Čech

 

 Denmark Legends

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Peter Schmeichel
Michael Laudrup
Brian Laudrup

England Legends

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Gordon Banks
David Beckham
Sir Bobby Charlton
Kevin Keegan
Gary Lineker
Michael Owen
Alan Shearer
Wayne Rooney
Andy Cole
Ian Wright
John Terry
Rio Ferdinand
Ashley Cole
Steven Gerrard
Frank Lampard
Paul Scholes
Glenn Hoddle
Bobby Moore
Sol Campbell
Tony Adams
John Barnes
Paul Gascoigne
Peter Shilton
Terry Butcher
Sir Stanley Matthews
Jimmy Greaves
Sir Geoff Hurst
Billy Wright
Bryan Robson
Kenny Sansom
Ray Wilkins
Stuart Pearce
Tom Finney
David Seaman
Alan Ball
Emlyn Hughes
Ray Clemence
Chris Waddle
David Platt
Peter Beardsley
Nat Lofthouse
Vivian Woodward
Jermain Defoe
Ledley King
Teddy Sheringham
Dixie Dean
Theo Walcott
Duncan Edwards

Finland Legends

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Sami Hyypiä

France Legends

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Robert Pires
Zinedine Zidane
Lilian Thuram
Thierry Henry
David Trezeguet
Patrick Vieira
Marcel Desailly
Michel Platini
Lassana Diarra
Franck Ribéry
Nicolas Anelka
William Gallas
Philippe Mexès
Sébastien Frey
Yoann Gourcuff
Claude Makélélé
Samir Nasri
Patrice Evra
Eric Cantona

Germany Legends

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Michael Ballack
Oliver Kahn
Sepp Maier
Berti Vogts
Karl-Heinz Schnellinger
Marko Marin
René Adler
Jens Lehmann

Hungary Legends

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Ferenc Puskas

Italy Legends

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Gianluigi Buffon
Alessandro Del Piero
Francesco Totti
Christian Vieri
Alessandro Nesta
Dino Zoff
Paolo Maldini
Giacinto Facchetti
Franco Baresi
Fabio Cannavaro
Giuseppe Bergomi
Massimo Ambrosini
Gennaro Gattuso
Alberto Aquilani
Riccardo Montolivo
Stefano Tacconi
Sebastian Giovinco
Mauro Camoranesi
Andrea Pirlo
Gianluca Zambrotta
Antonio Cassano
Giorgio Chiellini
Filippo Inzaghi
Daniele De Rossi
Robert Acquafresca

Ivory Coast Legends

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Didier Drogba
Kolo Touré

Japan Legends

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Hidetoshi Nakata
Shunsuke Nakamura
Kunishige Kamamoto
Myung-Bo Hong

Liberia Legends

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George Weah

Macedonia Legends

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Goran Pandev

Mali Legends

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Mohamed Sissoko

Montenegro Legends

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Mirko Vučinić

Netherlands Legends

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Patrick Kluivert
Clarence Seedorf
Edgar Davids
Ruud van Nistelrooy
Edwin van der Sar
Ruud Krol
Johan Cruyff
Wesley Sneijder
Arjen Robben
Robin van Persie
Dennis Bergkamp
Ruud Gullit
Marco Van Basten

Nigeria Legends

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Jay-Jay Okocha

 

 Northern Ireland Legends

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Pat Jennings
George Best

Paraguay Legends

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Édgar Barreto
Carlos Gamarra

Portugal Legends

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Ricardo Carvalho
Luis Figo
Deco
Jorge Andrade
Bruno Alves
Danny
Maniche
Miguel
Ricardo Quaresma
Simao Sabrosa
Tiago Mendes
Beto
Nuno Gomes
Paulo Sousa
Rui Costa
Sergio Conceicao
Paulo Futre
Vitor Baia
Mario Coluna
Eusebio
Ricardo Alexandre Martins
Carlos Gomes
Vitor Damas
Alberto Costa Pereira
Manuel Bento
Paulo Ferreira

Republic of Ireland Legends

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Roy Keane
Paul McGrath

 

Romania Legends

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Adrian Mutu
Cristian Chivu
Gheorghe Hagi

Russia Legends

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Lev Yashin
Andrey Arshavin

Senegal Legends

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El Hadji Diouf

 

Serbia Legends

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Dejan Stanković
Nemanja Vidić

Scottish Legends

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Kenny Dalglish

Slovakia Legends

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Marek Hamšík

South Korea Legends

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Park Ji-sung

Spain Legends

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Carles Puyol
David Villa
Iker Casillas
Cesc Fabregas
Raul
David Silva
Fernando Torres
Xavi
Gaizka Mendieta
Diego Tristán
Iván Helguera
Emilio Butragueño
Luis Enrique
Fernando Hierro
Xabi Alonso
Gerard Pique
Victor Valdes
Alvaro Arbeloa
Michel Salgado
Esteban Granero
Carlos Marchena
Joan Capdevila
Fernando Llorente
Josep Samitier
Pichichi
Guti
Francisco Buyo
Luis Arconada
Jose Angel Iribar
Andoni Zubizarreta
Ricardo Zamora

Sweden Legends

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Zlatan Ibrahimović
Henrik Larsson

Togo Legends

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Emmanuel Adebayor

Turkey Legends

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Emre Belözoğlu
Rüştü Reçber

Ukraine Legends

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Andriy Shevchenko
Oleg Blokhin

Uruguay Legends

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Víctor Rodríguez Andrade
Diego Forlán

Wales Legends

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John Charles
Ryan Giggs
Ian Rush

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FACEPACK NOW AVAILABLE

The new facepack should cover the 286 players within the database, if anyone notices anything wrong please let me know, thanks :)

https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/580610-fm24-not-your-ordinary-legends-database-cmfm-legends-included-295-legends-and-counting/

Also for those unable to get hold of the database through steam, that is the external download :thup:

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It has also come to my attention that there are some errors within the database, so I will be updating this as soon as I can. The links will be updated also in the official post once I make the announcement.

Hey, I did a shortlist for your databank and noticed the following things:

Player that have the wrong age or I couldn't find:
Hulk
Cristián Zapata
Andy Cole
Emerson Moisés Costa
Giuseppe Bergomi
Ricardo Alexandre Martins
Joan Capdevila
Maniche

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Myung-Bo Hong is Korean but listed under Japan (On the steam workshop page, not ingame)
 
 
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  • MichaelNevo changed the title to [FM24] NOT your ordinary Legends database! (CM/FM legends included) (295 Legends and counting!)

New hotfix LIVE + bonus legends added!!!

Removed Hulk from list.
Moved Myung-Bo Hong in list to South Korea
Removed Cristián Zapata from list.
Added common name for Andrew Cole (Andy Cole)
Fixed name for Giuseppe Bergomi (first name was Guiseppe)
Changed second name for Ricardo Alexandre Martins (from Pereira to Alexandre Martins)
Added Legend Maniche to the database

Bonus Legends...

Miroslav Klose
Yaya Toure
Sami Khedira

Player Count - 295 Legends

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On 24/12/2023 at 02:36, MichaelNevo said:

Funnily enough, I've never actually played a legends database, but I've heard there's been some top quality ones over the years.

A shortcut might be to download a couple of old ones and cannibalise the data you want to use - and photopacks in many cases. Should be legit providing you give credit.

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Hope everyone had a good christmas, now that its over I'll begin work on the next update. Obviously we have new year coming up as well, so progress will be slower than usual over this period.

On 25/12/2023 at 04:17, luismpfialho said:

Why some players have photo and other not? Am I doing something wrong?

Are you using the old facepack or the new one? If you're using the new one, have you removed the old one?

On 25/12/2023 at 05:23, phnompenhandy said:

A shortcut might be to download a couple of old ones and cannibalise the data you want to use - and photopacks in many cases. Should be legit providing you give credit.

I did initially think of that, but I decided against it because I wasn't happy with a lot of the players that I looked at. I tend to use wikipedia to guide me with the stats, with the more well known players having a section that says style of play or something along those lines, so I tend to create the attributes from that. With there being an age difference as well to these databases, the stats I put it are different also.

Also I'd prefer to make my own facepack, might be more work, but again I don't want to piggyback on other people's content. The facepack I create isn't top tier by any means, but once I'm happy with the database, along with a lot of other things I plan to improve it by learning better practices.

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