bruffell06 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm Man City and I currently play a 4-4-2 with Adebayor/Cardozo and Robinho/Tevez. I'm wondering should I be looking for Adebayor to be the target man to feet and dropping deep to get the ball or Robinho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianB Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 On a purely theoretical basis, I'd say it's all up to you and how you want to play. If you want the strong striker to be a win the ball between the striker and the midfield and flick/pass it forward, use him as the deeper striker. If you want him to win the ball high, hold it and then pass it on to the pacey/dribbling striker, play him higher up. You will se that both versions are used in real football, but it tends to vary a lot from one country to another. In your case I would perhaps play Adebayor/Tevez and Robinho/Cardozo, with Tevez and Cardozo as deep lying forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 matters how you want to play. Do you want to have a target man knocking the ball on or down or a creative playing finding the gaps and playing through balls. when you decided it will also help you pick target man instructions ect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercept Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Personally in that situation I would have Adebayor as your Target-Man recieving the ball higher up the field, with Robinho or Tevez going deeper to get it. Reason for this, is that it allows Adebayor to terrorise the defenders with his physical presence while also allowing Tevez and Robinho to do what they do best, which is run at defenders. Thats my opinion at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruffell06 Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 Okay I decided its best for my target man to win the ball higher up the pitch. Only problem is now my deep lying striker doesnt seem to be that involved I have them a couple of notches lower than Adebayor Mixed fwr Mixed rwb Creative freedom jsut above normal Mixed through balls Any ideas how they will be more involved? As i played a couple of matches and my deep lying striekr didnt have 1 shot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercept Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I play a similar mould and my settings for my FCd who comes deep to get the ball are these. Mentality - Team SettingCreative Freedom - 10-14 (centre notch to first notch of much)Passing - 12 (first notch of direct)Closing Down - Team SettingTackling - Team SettingForward Runs - RarelyRun with Ball - OftenLong Shots - Rarely/MixedTry Through Balls - Mixed/OftenCross Ball - MixedFree Role - TickedHold up Ball - Un-Ticked With Free-Role ticked and Forwards Runs rarely, he will be looking to find space which will naturally lead him to the space between the Target Man and Midfield. He should become alot more involved and generally will either pick up assists or goals from the positions he finds himself in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruffell06 Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 Okay thanks Intercept i'll try that. Just one more question should I still play my more advanced forward as a target man to feet? And how do I set him up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercept Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Personally with it being Adebayor, I would have it set to mixed or ideally, if you have the distribution, to head. In the 4-4-2 I played at Chelsea with Anelka/Drogba partnership (quite similar to your's, you just have a better creative forward ;p) I had Drogba set-up as such. Mentality - Team SettingCreative Freedom - Team Setting (generally this is low for me, closer to "little" than "much")Passing - 6-10 (prodominantly short passing)Closing Down - Team SettingTackling - Team SettingForward Runs - OftenRun with Ball - RarelyTry Through Balls - Mixed/OftenLong Shots - MixedCross Ball - RarelyFree-Role - Un-TickedHold up Ball - Ticked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruffell06 Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 I tend to play with Adebayor set to target man to feet. Do you reccommend having him set to head or mixed instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercept Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nothing wrong with it being to feet with Adebayor, but he is a monster in the air with his height, jumping and strength. If you prefer with it going to his feet and keeping the ball on the floor, then go for it. With it being Drogba, he isn't the best dribbler in the world and his first touch could be better, hence the reason I prefer him going for the aerial balls. Distribution to your Target Man is generally down to preference and how you play as a team. I would assume you have assembled a decent squad and as such they are probably good passers on the floor, which makes it easier to play the ball to feet (I assume, correct me if I'm wrong here). I play with out and out wingers, Zhirkov on the left and Camoranesi on the right, so they can generally pick out Drogba very easily who gets above most defenders and dominates the aerial exchanges. However when I played as Barcelona, I had Messi as my Target-Man and distribution set to either Feet or Run onto Ball depending on the team I was playing and with Iniesta, Xavi and Silva all in the midfielder, he ran riot as the ball almost was always pin-point perfect and he had the first-touch, off the ball and anticipation to get the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitruc03 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I've based my current tactics off Tyler_Bode's and I like his idea of having both strikers hold up play. Its been working very well for me using decent all-around forwards (mostly I look at passing and finishing attributes)... a lot of the AM/FC types. Strength doesn't seem to be an issue because Lavezzi has been fantastic for me. Looks like from the strikers you have it could work for you too, especially if you have wingers that are good at finishing (I have Mata and a regen that is comparable to Ronaldo). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruffell06 Posted August 3, 2009 Author Share Posted August 3, 2009 Ive tried the instructions you have been reccommending for my strikers but with no joy so i'm going to keep tweaking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyw_85 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Ive tried the instructions you have been reccommending for my strikers but with no joy so i'm going to keep tweaking Hi bruffello06, what do you mean as no joy? Are the strikers not scoring enough, or not getting into the game enough? Have you tried to Keep It Simple, aka KISS? You can try to keep it simple by giving them a mentality of 10(yes 10, even though your other players' mentality is attacking), and give them FWR mixed. Set their rest of the instructions like RWB, Long Shots etc to Rarely. Give them CF of 15 and swap instructions. Play a few games and watch at how their play can be improved. Things to look out for are, 1. Are they receiving the right kind of service? 2. When they have the ball, are they doing what you want? Then start to alter from there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruffell06 Posted August 3, 2009 Author Share Posted August 3, 2009 My strikers just dont seem to be in the game enough. I'll give your instructions a go and work from there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomheadshot45 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 bruffell06, it could also be the delivery you are getting from your wingers and center mids. And also look at the offside count after each game to see how involved your FCa was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Have neither dropping deep. Do the sensible thing and have them both together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObaMartins09 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 If you're going to aim at Adebayor's head I wouldn't bother having Robinho dropping deep. He'll just be flicking it on to no-one all the time. I'd recommend having them on similar instructions but with different forward runs to start with. Watch the matches in full and see what's going wrong and tweak what is necessary. In fact anyone starting a new game or creating a new tactic, at first stick with the basics, watch in full and tweak bit by bit. If you start messing about with all the settings straight away it becomes hard to put your finger on what is going wrong. I can usually make a decent tactic just by watching my pre-season games, and tweaking it as I go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyw_85 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 If you're going to aim at Adebayor's head I wouldn't bother having Robinho dropping deep. He'll just be flicking it on to no-one all the time.I'd recommend having them on similar instructions but with different forward runs to start with. Watch the matches in full and see what's going wrong and tweak what is necessary. In fact anyone starting a new game or creating a new tactic, at first stick with the basics, watch in full and tweak bit by bit. If you start messing about with all the settings straight away it becomes hard to put your finger on what is going wrong. I can usually make a decent tactic just by watching my pre-season games, and tweaking it as I go. Adebayor can nod it down instead of flicking it. Also, I have seen Tall strikers flick the ball pass the defence for the fast striker to run on to. So, it doesn't necessary has to be Adebayor playing deep. But yes, I agree with you that to give them similar instructions and then start tweaking from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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