Amount of goals

I had the same experience, there are to many goals in matches between AI teams.

Yeah, the same experience for me so far. Seeing a number of scorelines like 6-4, 5-3, 4-4 between the AI.

 

We'll take a look into all of these, thank you for raising. 

I've found the number of goals in my save excessive too.

@Kyle Brown Out of interest, will there be a game update soon?

was there a patch already for that? because in my simulation I get quite the opposite effect.

Bundesliga 2.36 goals per match -> previous lowest record for german bundesliga 2.56. https://www.weltfussball.de/statistik/bundesliga/1/

which is very annoying, beacuse the current real bundesliga season is number one in this list -> there is quite a dissonance from reality just from looking at tables

Premier League 2.56 gpm -> also way below average https://www.weltfussball.de/statistik/eng-premier-league/1/

 

Also is this something you can somehow balance with the editing tools provided? Different leagues have different amount of goals scored - is this the results of club philosophy, managers, league, nation? Can I tune this to my own liking somehow?

Edited October 29, 2023 by hoenieg

After 32 games the above image.

 

 

23 games into the season and every single side that was in the division last season, has hit at least 80% of total goals scored IRL last season. It's mental.

Really struggling to understand the cause of there being too many goals. Is it goalkeepers simply not being good enough? Shot physics being off? Teams getting too many high xG chances? Is it a moral issue after conceding/scoring? Too many goals from corners?

The issue seems amplified when trying to play defensive, rather than playing offensively. Which shouldn't be the case. Is this a result of defensive formations and low line/low blocks not working? Is it a result of teams just getting far too many shots  peppered away when setting up this way when compared to real life? Or one of the above simply just making it not sustainable?

I think the ME plays fine. It's conversion rates being too high and Goalkeepers being absolutely awful.

This amount of goals FOR, for each side in the top 6 after 32 games is obscene. It already matches and exceeds for 4 of them compared to last season IRL after 46 games. Even then, the other 2 are within 5, with fourteen games remaining,

Hoping this is sorted for full release.

Edited November 4, 2023 by Domoboy23

The simulation has been repeated. For the Championship the +0.93 equates to OVER 550 goals over the course of a season...

End of the Championship season, just look at the goals for and goals against column... praying this is fixed on Monday

IRL figures from last season for the Championship.

That's 337 clean sheets across a season.

I have run 3 different simulations on FM to compare this to RL figures.

A: 137 -- Team with the highest: 11 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 23% rate.

B: 111 -- Team with the highest: 13 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 23% rate.

C: 156 -- Team with the highest: 11 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 28% rate.

This means that a team on FM with the most amount of clean sheets... would be around 17/18th IRL. 

I have also run this test in: Bundesliga, MLS, La Liga, Eredivise, Poland all divisions, Croatia all divisions with similar results.

The amount of goals scored is NOT LEAGUE SPECIFIC imo. It is an issue across all leagues. It is a conversion/goalkeeping/ME issue (will look to run a test to see average SPG to see if it is an ME behaviour issue, however, looking at the xG tables it is simply conversion/goalkeeping_

 

IRL below are the amount of goals scored from set pieces (corners, DFK, IDFK)

308, 298, 270

FM SIM TESTS: 314, 322, 302.

Set pieces do not seem to be the issue.

 

The team top of the championship for shot to goal conversion last season IRL wouldn't even be 17th in the table on my simulated save 

For further context in 21/22 the top team (Fulham) had 10.7%. And Bournemouth in 20/21 has 10.3%.

For further context this is the stats from my current save 32 games in...

AVERAGE CONVERSION RATES ACROSS THE DIVISION

IRL

22/23: 8.2%

21/22: 8.1%

20/21: 7.6%

3 YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE: 7.96%

FM 24 SIMULATIONS

SEASON 1: 14.37

SEASON 2:  13.91

SEASON 3: 15.01

3 YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE: 14.43%

 

(FM 23 SIMULATIONS

SEASON 1: 9.33

SEASON 2: 9.25

SEASON 3: 9.58

3 YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE: 9.38%)

THIS TEST HAS BEEN RUN ACROSS MULTIPLE NATIONS AND LEAGUES, ALL WITH EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH CONVERSION RATES. THIS IS A UNIVERSAL, NOT LEAGUE SPECIFIC ISSUE.

Edited November 4, 2023 by Domoboy23

@Kyle Brown

Latest and most complete test yet. Will update the below as soon as the ''full' release occurs tomorrow and testing has been done to allow us to see if there have been any changes.

 

 

 

 

Please note for FM24 some teams had a conversion rate of up to 21% (so 1 in 5 of their shots goes in the back of the net) come the end of the season!

 

Hi, more goals are only in fully detailed leagues right (a little more than IRL, maybe 10-12%)? Not fully detailed leagues don't have more goals than IRL (in my save).

Hello

Could SI fix it? Or Is the ME broken? This number of goals in matches is getting annoying

 

i'm really hopping for a patch to start a save in FM24

Edited November 10, 2023 by skiante

I Have the same problem in my save ... The match engine this year is very good but this bug is destroying the game....

Coventry v Huddersfield.pkm FV Illertissen v Union Berlin.pkm Huddersfield v Blackburn.pkm Huddersfield v Middlesbrough.pkm Huddersfield v Sunderland.pkm Huddersfield v West Brom.pkm Norwich v Huddersfield.pkm

I can confirm very high scoring games....

 

This type of result has been a constant in this version. There are a lot of goals.

2 official games in the 1st season and alrdy have a 9-0 win v Betis. I was alrdy 7-0 up in minute 37, thats just too much. Im wondering what it is, too good finishing? AI GK not that good or? 

(Update 17-11 next 3 games were 5-1, 3-0 and elClasico won 3-4), plus a 2-4 win v Shakhtar and 4-0 v Osasuna. 

PKM added. And gonna see if this happens more often. It seems a thing in this FM. 

Real Madrid - Real Betis.pkm

Edited November 17, 2023 by f.zaarour

Uploading a few of my high scoring games.

If this were real life Match of the Day and the EFL highlights would have to have their own designated 24/7 TV channel so they could cover everything. Madness

Bournemouth 3v6 Morpeth.pkm Morpeth 7v3 Mansfield.pkm Morpeth 10v5 Sheff Wed.pkm Reading 2v8 Morpeth.pkm

All looking pretty normal in my save, I hope they don't muck about with this too much, the ME is great this year. 

Si would be cool if you are can something do with this...

 

Edited November 17, 2023 by Kerlon751911

I'm seeing a lot of goals in my Millwall save as well.

In the 2023/2024 season, there were an average 3.11 goals per match in the Championship. Norwich scored 109 goals and conceded 69. Seven teams scored at least 80 goals, and six teams conceded at least 80.

Selected results from that season:

• Norwich 8-2 Ipswich (Shots on target: 14-3)
• Sunderland 5-5 QPR (Shots on target: 9-6)
• Bristol City 3-6 Blackburn (Shots on target: 7-10)
• QPR 4-4 Stoke (Shots on target: 6-6)

I'm now about 34 matches into the 2024/2025 season, and the average is just under 3.10 goals per match. Sheffield United have scored 94 goals in 34 matches and are on course to break the league record (122) that has stood since 1927.

I've also seen the following scorelines this season:

• Sheffield United 7-3 Plymouth (Shots on target: 11-3)
• Sheffield United 9-0 Cardiff (Shots on target: 17-0)
• Norwich 6-3 Sunderland (Shots on target: 19-5)
• Sunderland 6-3 Sheffield Wednesday (Shots on target: 15-4)
• Ipswich 5-4 Fulham (Shots on target: 6-6)
• Sunderland 6-2 Birmingham (Shots on target: 15-4)

Save files uploaded as CFuller_2024.fm and CFuller_2025.fm.

CFuller_Norwich v Ipswich.pkm CFuller_Sunderland v QPR.pkm CFuller_Bristol City v Blackburn.pkm CFuller_QPR v Stoke.pkm CFuller_Sheff Utd v Plymouth.pkm CFuller_Sheff Utd v Cardiff.pkm CFuller_Norwich v Sunderland.pkm CFuller_Sunderland v Sheffield Wednesday.pkm CFuller_Ipswich v Fulham.pkm CFuller_Sunderland v Birmingham.pkm

Edited November 17, 2023 by CFuller