BurnCM4X Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 This update includes: First and Second Andorra Division - First League will have 8 clubs, the second division will have 10 clubs. One direct promotion/relegation between divisions and one playoff between 7th and 2nd Andorra Cup - Qualify the first 8 clubs, and the first 8 from the Second Division Andorra Super Cup - Typical Super Cup competition U19 League - It's a normal league. It's not a custom league as i do not know the details of this championship. Any details on any of this competitions that i missed (or that i wrongly defined) please feel free to add it. U19 League/cup details are welcome too. Tested for 5 seasons and working. Latest and final Version: (V0.7 Beta 3) Changes: Prizes to the competition changed a bit Some other minor changes Download Old Versions: V0.7 Beta 1 Download: Megaupload FileServe Hotfile V0.6 Beta 5 Download: Megaupload FileServe Hotfile V0.6 Beta 3 Download: Megaupload FileServe Hotfile V0.6 Beta 2 Download: Megaupload FileServe Hotfile V0.5 Beta 2 Download: Megaupload FileServe Hotfile V0.5 Beta 1 Download: Megaupload FileServe Hotfile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironmaster Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 In the Second Division there are 10 clubs, and there is promotion from Second to First Division. 1st team gets promotion to First Division 2nd team play promotion/relegation play-off against 7th team from First Division Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 In the Second Division there are 10 clubs, and there is promotion from Second to First Division.1st team gets promotion to First Division 2nd team play promotion/relegation play-off against 7th team from First Division This will be added shortly... New version coming soon. Thanks for the feedback and keep it coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 New version added with the fixes reported by Ironmaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale1988 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 "The eight clubs that play in the league play in a home/away system (although they always play in the same venue). After the first 14 rounds, the best four teams play a competition between them to decide the Andorran champion (play off per al títol), while the other four play to avoid relegation (play off pel descens). The last of play off descens gets direct relegation to Second Division, while 1st team from Second Division gets direct promotion to First Division; then, as Ironmaster said, 7th team (aka 3rd classified in play off descens) play promotion/relegation play-off against 2nd team from Second Division" There is a winter pause from half december to half january! The winners win a place in the UEFA Champions League." (source: winkipedia and andorran federation website) Thanks for your work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagoonerfan Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Is this for FM11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatwal Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 And they are 20 teams in the Andorran cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 "The eight clubs that play in the league play in a home/away system (although they always play in the same venue). After the first 14 rounds, the best four teams play a competition between them to decide the Andorran champion (play off per al títol), while the other four play to avoid relegation (play off pel descens). The last of play off descens gets direct relegation to Second Division, while 1st team from Second Division gets direct promotion to First Division; then, as Ironmaster said, 7th team (aka 3rd classified in play off descens) play promotion/relegation play-off against 2nd team from Second Division" There is a winter pause from half december to half january!The winners win a place in the UEFA Champions League." (source: winkipedia and andorran federation website) Thanks for your work! Thanks for the info. Will be added soon. Is this for FM11? Yes, it's for FM 2011 And they are 20 teams in the Andorran cup The cup is one of the competitions that it's been hard to get info. The problem on being 20 teams it's here only 18 teams in andorra... Plus, the last Cup i found (in the federation site only qualify 16 teams... I'll try to find out more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironmaster Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 You can make Andorran Cup like this: 1st round qualifying round [4 (7-10 places) worst teams from Second Division) 2nd round [16 teams - 8 from First Division and 6 (1-6 places) best teams from First Division and two winner of 1st round] Quaterfinals [8 winner of 2nd round] Semifinals [4 winners of quaterfinals] FINAL [winners of semifinals] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 You can make Andorran Cup like this:1st round qualifying round [4 (7-10 places) worst teams from Second Division) 2nd round [16 teams - 8 from First Division and 6 (1-6 places) best teams from First Division and two winner of 1st round] Quaterfinals [8 winner of 2nd round] Semifinals [4 winners of quaterfinals] FINAL [winners of semifinals] But is the cup like this? The system i have is exactly the system that is on the Andorra Federation site. (Although looks 1 season older, maybe this year system is yet to be decided) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironmaster Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 System from Andorran Federation is old. Probably new system will be decided. I wrote you system to include every team in cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 Yes... I'll probably include it too in the next version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 The Andorran Cup played in 2009/10 had this format: 1st round: 4 matches (8 teams added) 2nd round: 4 matches (4 teams added) Quarterfinal: 4 matches (4 teams added) Semifinal: 2 matches Final: 1 match Source: RSSSF (As the creator probably already had used) The Andorran federation website shows the 2011 cup with the exactly same format, but given there are 18 teams in the two divisions this season, I guess the cup format will change. As format until we know the format I recommend this format (Nothing wrong with Ironmaster's either): 1st round: 10 teams (all second tier teams) 2nd round: 10 teams (5 winners from 1st round + 4-8 from top tier) QF: 8 teams (5 winners from 2nd round + 1-3 from top tier) SF: 4 teams (all from quarterfinal) Final: 2 teams (both from semifinals) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 New version is up. List of the changes int the first post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thepathtoamen Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Thanks I fancying checking this out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvlichel Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 there is bug with transfer window in second season... Transfer will launch on 1.07.2011 or it has launched on other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 there is bug with transfer window in second season... Transfer will launch on 1.07.2011 or it has launched on other. Didn't understand the bug. There's no transfers after 1/7? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvlichel Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Sorry for bad english. There is transfer, it's not problem. The bug is the opening date of transferts : in first season, windows transfers is open in 1.7.2010, ok? In second season, windows transfers is open in 7.7.2011... and in competition rules, it's opened 7.7.2011 to 5.9.2011. there is same problem for winter transfer. I think than this bug is for all new league with editor... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hmm, i understand... and you are right, it's probably a editor problem. I'm going to do some tests and post a bug report on bug forums. Thanks for the report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hmm.. in my Faroe Islands league the window it set to open on 30.6.. and it does open on 30.6.. in every season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvlichel Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I'm testing others updates and same problem... I maked luxembourg update, same thing... it maked with editor 11.1. is there download link for your faroe islands league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I'm testing others updates and same problem... I maked luxembourg update, same thing... it maked with editor 11.1. is there download link for your faroe islands league? I will put it for download very soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herter Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hi again.. sorry, but I seem to have the same problem.. for each season the tranfer window seems to open 1 day earlier than the last season.. :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvlichel Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 In real life, the opening day, we use the 1.7.20xx... In game, the opening day is the weekday. For example : if 1.7.2010 is saturday, in 2011, game will opening transfer windows on saturday... not on 1.7.2011 because this day isn't a saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 In real life, the opening day, we use the 1.7.20xx... In game, the opening day is the weekday.For example : if 1.7.2010 is saturday, in 2011, game will opening transfer windows on saturday... not on 1.7.2011 because this day isn't a saturday. It is what i was expecting... it's using the same date system from the league start/end. I've reported the bug on the editor bug section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemfi Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I just want to show you something. Look at my screen. http://s2.noelshack.com/old/up/1eere_division_andorrane_informations__classement-edfdac6918.png Santa Coloma has +8 in the goal average but isn't 1st. Is there a bug, or I must wait to play against them to see which of the team must be in the 1st place? Or maybe you forgot to put the rules about League sorting rules, you know, for example: - number of points - Results between teams - Goal difference - Goals scored I hope you'll see this tomorrow and answer me, 'cause if it's a bug, i wont continue my game and I'll wait for you to do another version of this update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 For some reason it was deleted. (in both my updates) I will be launch a new version soon with the fix. Thanks for the report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 The new version with the League Sorting Rules Fix is out. New version includes a different U19 System. (All clubs are in the same division now) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale1988 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I haven't tried your league yet, but I have news for European places: champions of the league - UEFA Champions League first qualifying round champions of the cup - UEFA Europa League second qualifying round 2nd team First Division - UEFA Europa League first qualifying round 3rd team First Division - UEFA Europa League first qualifying round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 I haven't tried your league yet, but I have news for European places:champions of the league - UEFA Champions League first qualifying round champions of the cup - UEFA Europa League second qualifying round 2nd team First Division - UEFA Europa League first qualifying round 3rd team First Division - UEFA Europa League first qualifying round The European qualification is kinda automatic, the game does it by itself. But thanks anyway. Keep the info coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemfi Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Thanks for fixing the bug, but do you think that I can begin a new game, or maybe is it better to wait for a 1.0 version of the update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 The version 1.0 will be a version that i consider all things to be perfect, so it's highly unlikely to be out. The latest version doesn't have (i think) any bugs to be fixed so, the future updates will be changes from any feedback that i get from people with knowledge of the Andorra system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westothebpow Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Very much looking forward to this. Going to play it alongside the Dafuge challenge and the Indian league. Let me know if you need help with anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkz196 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I am a chinese FMer. First of all thank you for your wok. I want to ask whether players who come from another nation to Andorra can acquire a nationality of Andorra.I have begun the game with the latest version and I bought a chinese player,but,he can not acquire a nationality of Andorra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Well in real life it's a known fact that it's almost impossible to regain Andorran citiscenship. But I don't know how it's set up in this file Yes, it's true... It takes 25 years to get Andorra nationality! The game recognize that and, because it is higher then the most football careers, it doesn't count the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkz196 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Yes, it's true... It takes 25 years to get Andorra nationality! The game recognize that and, because it is higher then the most football careers, it doesn't count the years. Thank you very much!But another question is my chinese player can not speak Catalan or spanish after two years in my club in Andorra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkz196 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Thank you for your answer, but I discovered a new problem, my foreign players within the club for two years ,still can`t` learn Andorra official languages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale1988 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 edit. I am wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 Thank you for your answer, but I discovered a new problem, my foreign players within the club for two years ,still can`t` learn Andorra official languages. l will try to see if there's anything wrong on the Update that could cause that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobJoylove Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 This looks good. Quick question. Are any of the clubs of semi-professional status or are they all amateur? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 This looks good.Quick question. Are any of the clubs of semi-professional status or are they all amateur? Cheers. At the beginning only 2 or 3 are semi-professional. The rest are all amateur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemfi Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Players can't learn Andorran language 'cause Catalan is the official language. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westothebpow Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Any updates as yet? I'll certainly help with research or anything else you require. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersewelly Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Yes, it's true... It takes 25 years to get Andorra nationality! The game recognize that and, because it is higher then the most football careers, it doesn't count the years. It is the same with San Marinese citizenship, yet it takes just 5 years to acquire that in FM! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkz196 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Another question, my Andorran team entered European Champions Cup and owned some points so Andorra’s FIFA coefficients came in eighteenth place even higher than Czech Republic and Denmark in my game.But Andorra still has one qualification in second qualifying phase of Champions Cup and one in first qualifying round of Euro Cup.I do not know if there is something wrong with this version or anything else unknown to me caused this problem.Thank you very much and sorry for my poor English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 I've been testing that, the actual UEFA rules seem to be respected by the game. (The limit of only one club in Europa League and no limit on the champions league) Btw, found what could be a bug (on youth squads) so a new version of this and of San Marino update could be out soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 New version is out. Please test it and post any feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Is it already known how the cup format is this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnCM4X Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Is it already known how the cup format is this year? Honestly i don't know. If someone found it please feel free to post it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkz196 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I've been testing that, the actual UEFA rules seem to be respected by the game. (The limit of only one club in Europa League and no limit on the champions league) Did you found something unrealistic,was it still happen in the latest version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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