TacticalGenius Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Football Club United of Manchester is a semi-professional English association football club based in Bury near Manchester who currently play in the Evo-Stik Premier Division, the 7th tier of league football. The club was formed in 2005 by Manchester United supporters following Malcolm Glazer's controversial takeover which led to hundreds of supporters defecting from the club. They are affectionately referred to as "The Red Rebels". FC United's first three seasons were successful, winning promotion each time. FC United entered at the tenth level of the English football league system (the second division of the North West Counties Football League) and they were confirmed as champions on 15 April 2006 and followed that up by being crowned as champions of Division 1 on 18 April 2007. The 2007–08 season saw them finish second in the Northern Premier League Division One North then gain promotion through the end of season play-offs. In 2008-09, they finished 6th out of the 22 teams in the Northern Premier League Premier Division, missing out on the play-offs on the last day of the season. They set themselves the target of winning the league in 2009-10, but instead went backwards, finishing 13th out of 20 teams. Currently in the 2010-11 season they lie 14th of the 22 teams in the same league, which has been renamed the Evo-Stik Premier Division thanks to a sponsorship deal with Evo-Stik. They played their first ever televised game away to Rochdale in the FA Cup First round proper on Friday 5th November 2010, winning 3-2 in stoppage time, thanks to a controversial goal scored by Mike Norton. The club agreed to move the fixture to Friday for television only because Rochdale is close enough for supporters to travel to on a weekday after work, with drinking time to spare, too! Had the tie been away to a club further away, the board would not have agreed. They will play Brighton away in the 2nd round. During their first season (2005–06), they had the second-highest average attendance in English non-League football. Attendances fell in the next two seasons and they were the 97th best supported club in 2007–08. Their record attendance is 6,023 for a match against Great Harwood Town on 22 April 2006. The club have played several overseas friendlies, each time as special guests of the host club, with their travel and expenses covered: -At LOK Leipzig (Germany) in May 2006. -In a 5-a-side tournament (Riesa, Germany) in January 2008 against several Bundesliga/2. Bundesliga sides. -At VfB Marburg (Germany) in June 2008. -At Djurgårdens IF (Stockholm, Sweden) in May 2009. -At Bucheon FC 1995 (South Korea) in July 2009. -Against a St. Pauli (Hamburg, Germany) historic XI (whose team included Ivan Klasnic) at their Millerntor stadium in May 2010. -At Cliftonville (Belfast) in July 2010. All of the above matches (except the 5-a-side tournament) were billed as equality/anti-racism/anti-fascism games. The team is managed by the former Macclesfield Town player Karl Marginson. Organisation FC United is an Industrial and provident society. Membership is obtained by paying an annual fee of £12 to the club (£3 for children), but each member receives only one share in the club and is entitled to a single vote at meetings, regardless of the amount donated. The club has an elected board of eleven members. The club has two full-time employee positions: Andy Walsh as chief executive and Lindsey Robertson. Andy Walsh was heavily involved in the club's formation. The club's manifesto includes the following core principles: 1.The Board will be democratically elected by its members 2.Decisions taken by the membership will be decided on a one member, one vote basis 3.The club will develop strong links with the local community and strive to be accessible to all, discriminating against none 4.The club will endeavour to make admission prices as affordable as possible, to as wide a constituency as possible 5.The club will encourage young, local participation - playing and supporting - whenever possible 6.The Board will strive wherever possible to avoid outright commercialism 7.The club will remain a non-profit organisation The club accepts sponsorship but does not allow sponsors' logos to be displayed on the team's shirts. The club's main sponsor in its inaugural 2005–06 season was the Bhopal Medical Appeal and in season 2006–07 it was the Williams BMW Group. Stadium Since the club's formation, F.C. United have not had their own home ground. Instead, they share the ground with Bury F.C., using their Gigg Lane ground. On 25 March 2010, the club announced plans to build their own 5,000-capacity football ground in Newton Heath, the original home of Manchester United. The development will be located on the site of the current Ten Acres Lane sports centre and will cost £3.5 million, to be financed by public donations, a Community Shares issue and grant funding. FM: Team Information: Nation: England Founded: 2005 Status: Semi-Professional Reputation: Obscure Chairman Status: Loves the club Legends: Karl Marginson Icons: David Chadwick, Robert Nugent, Rory Patterson, Jerome Wright, Steve Torpey, Sam Ashton Favoured Personnel: None Fierce Rivals: Liverpool, Man City, Leeds Other Rivals: Bradford PA, Flixton, Curzon Ashton, Man United Finances: Okay Average Ticket price: £11.00 Average Season Ticket price: £173.00 Season Ticket holders: 1250 Estimated Value: £150k Continental Competition: None Media Prediction: 21st Squad Personality: Fairly Loyal Captain: David Chadwick Vice-Captain: Simon Carden Expectations/Budget: The minimum expectation is to 'attempt to avoid relegation' and the board will give you £6,000 transfer budget and a wage budget of £4,500 (£3,581 used) to do so. Of course, the higher you set the expectation, the more the budget increases: Avoid relegation: £6k, £5k wage Mid table - Promotion: £6k, £5.25k wage Winner: £6k, £5.5k wage As you can see, not much gained by setting the expectations high. I personally will be going with the minimum expectation - I want to know my job is safe whatever happens! Kits: To get the correct kits, you need to download this file: http://www.mediafire.com/?3lvbu2emnvtm6q1 The extracted folder goes in: Documents/Sports Interactive/Football Manager 2011/graphics/kits (If graphics and/or kits do not exist in your FM11 folder, just create them) Badges: http://www.mediafire.com/?l94kt5evmut85h5 extract to: Documents/Sports Interactive/Fm2011/Graphics You will also need to load all players from clubs in England, or use a retain players file: Retain players file: http://www.mediafire.com/?706jaim4ttprck3 (based on Dafuge's Challenge 2010 retainer file) Place in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2011\data\db\1100\edt C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\football manager 2011\data\db\1100\edt (for Steam users) If using the patch, place it in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2011\data\updates\update-1110\db\1110\edt C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Football Manager 2011\data\updates\update-1110\db\1110\edt (again, for Steam users) There are three ways to play as FC United: A) Download RTC's English Leagues file (NOT RECOMMENDED) B) The holiday-retire-load method of promoting an unplayable team from the 7th tier: 1) Add yourself as an unemployed manager. 2) Go on holiday until 24th June 2011, SAVE, then go on holiday for one day. 3) Retire your manager. 4) Add a new manager (the one you'll use for the save) and look in the Blue Square North for FC United. If FC United isn't there, reload the save on 24th June, holiday for one day and continue from step 3. C) The save game - http://www.mediafire.com/?4y74jf7v2jotmfb - 11.1 patch http://www.mediafire.com/?0njoprp559n7rgl - 11.3 patch Install to: Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2011\games Leagues loaded: England: BSN/BSS Spain: Liga BBVA Holland: Eredvisie Germany: Bundesliga France: Ligue 1 Italy: Serie A as well as Brazil, Argentina, Turkey, Portugal, Russia and Scotland all on view only. Top players on each continent loaded too. (11.3 patch has all European leagues on view only on top of the 11.1 loaded countries) --------------------------------------------------- This is a club with an empty trophy cabinet and no history... Yet! Can you be successful enough to get them their own, new stadium which they desire? Good luck, and enjoy the challenge of trying to become the Number One club in Manchester! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Players: The starting squad at FC has a few decent players from the start. Some are terrible. I won't be telling you who to buy - you're the manager, you have your own scout... KEY: *** Good. Keep hold of him. ** OK as a backup. * Poor. Get rid of asap. The format is: Natural Position, Name, Age, Rating. GK: Sam Ashton, 23 *** GK: Zak Hibbert, 21 ** GK: Grant Shenton, 19 * DR: Kyle Jacobs, 23 ** WBR: Richard Battersby, 31 ** DC: David Chadwick, 32 ** DC: Nick Swirad, 19 * DL: Ludovic Quistin, 26 *** MC: James Holden, 23 ** MC: Jake Cottrell, 21 *** AMR: Carlos Roca, 25 *** AMR: Chris Ovington, 19 ** AMC: Simon Carden, 31 *** M/AML: Steve Torpey, 28 ** M/AML: Jerome Wright, 24 *** ML: Scott McManus, 21 ** ST: Glynn Hurst, 34 ** ST: Ben Deegan, 22 * ST: Mike Norton, 29 *** ST: Jamie Mack, 19 * I've given natural positions only as it was the easiest method of sorting the players. Looking at what we have though, I'd say a 4-4-2 is looking like the best option, which is what I was hoping for. Centreback and Central Midfield will need some cover bought/loaned in too. LB can be covered by McManus for the time being. As previously stated, a full squad/tactics analysis should be up by the weekend. Watch this space! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Tactics: I'm not going into detail, as in my opinion, lower league management is more fun and rewarding if you find things out for yourself. But this is what I am using: To be honest, realistically, only a 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 are viable tactics in the Blue Square leagues. Though it is your game, play it as you see fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikal Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Great OP. Definitely going to be my first long term game! Can't wait to crack on come Friday! Looking forward to your squad update. Will you be doing this on Friday to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooney_08 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Good OP mate...look forward to starting with FCUM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontask Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 im hoping to have enough brains to be able to download to tier 11. if i manage it then i will play as fc united in the evo stik league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 Great OP. Definitely going to be my first long term game! Can't wait to crack on come Friday! Looking forward to your squad update. Will you be doing this on Friday to? I hope to, it depends how long it takes of holidaying, saving and reloading it takes for FCUM to come up to the BSN... Thanks for your comments on the OP guys, it's my first real attempt at a club thread, and seeing as the guy who did last year's one disappeared shortly after making it, I thought I'd take it upon myself to make it this year, especially as I was one of the most active (and successful!) participants within it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGougan33 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Well done mate, anti Glazier FTW!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 I'm hoping to have the full game tomorrow, but I won't be able to play until midnight as I'll be installing via Steam. I will, however, get to work on a squad list using the Editor to find out who is in the squad. Assuming it does come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joonior45363 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Great opening post, you have talked me in to starting my long term save with these guys! Looking forward to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 TacticalGenius, are you going to be starting your game with just english leagues and top players loaded, or are you going to load up more leagues? I'm thinking I may load up more leagues so I have more players in the database on my FC United save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 TacticalGenius, are you going to be starting your game with just english leagues and top players loaded, or are you going to load up more leagues? I'm thinking I may load up more leagues so I have more players in the database on my FC United save. I really don't know, because I did fancy a shot at Dafuge's Challenge again, but I do like a big database to choose from... @ Everyone: I have my copy of FM11, have installed via Steam, so no playing until Midnight (or until the patch is released, anyway). But I do have access to the editor, so full squad list and positions will be up shortly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 Squad list updated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Guess who just got his copy of the game from his local game shop (points at self)! I had to ask the shop assistant (a friend of mine) if they had a copy in, as there weren't any on the shelves. I've started holidaying for a season, with the bigger European countries, Brazilian leagues, MLS, and a couple of other countries loaded. It's just reached January 2011, which took about an hour to get to. When I get FC United promoted to BSN, I'll save the game and upload the file somewhere for others to use if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 Guess who just got his copy of the game from his local game shop (points at self)! I had to ask the shop assistant (a friend of mine) if they had a copy in, as there weren't any on the shelves. I've started holidaying for a season, with the bigger European countries, Brazilian leagues, MLS, and a couple of other countries loaded. It's just reached January 2011, which took about an hour to get to. When I get FC United promoted to BSN, I'll save the game and upload the file somewhere for others to use if needed. Good idea, although it won't be of much use to many ~(myself included)~ without the patch and German national team fix... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Not the best squad list... Where is Martin Parker and Karl Munroe? Where is Lee Neville and Nicky Platt? McManus is a DL and has played DC all season there for us, hope he can play there. I know these players may have joined only this season, BUT they all came before Hurst joined. I'd say CB was our best position in real life, along with MR and up front. As we have Munroe, McManus and Parker who've all looked good, plus Chadwick our talisman! EDIT: obviously not criticising your post, glad there is an FC one, but I'm unsure as the standard of research if that squad list is 100% correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Good idea, although it won't be of much use to many ~(myself included)~ without the patch and German national team fix... Good point. I'll upload it anyway, just because I'm nice like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Not the best squad list... Where is Martin Parker and Karl Munroe? Where is Lee Neville and Nicky Platt? McManus is a DL and has played DC all season there for us, hope he can play there. I know these players may have joined only this season, BUT they all came before Hurst joined. I'd say CB was our best position in real life, along with MR and up front. As we have Munroe, McManus and Parker who've all looked good, plus Chadwick our talisman! EDIT: obviously not criticising your post, glad there is an FC one, but I'm unsure as the standard of research if that squad list is 100% correct. I used the editor to search the players you named, as I am currently holidaying on the actual game. Martin Parker doesn't exist in-game. Karl Munroe is a free agent who, according to the editor, was an FC United player in 2010 but played no games for the team. Lee Neville is playing for Salford City. I've never used the editor before now, so not sure what other info I could give. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Odd that Karl Munroe had a record of being with us but isn't in the game anymore? Thanks for checking, I'm currently out but was disappointed to see it was like that in the editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Yeah, it is rather odd. He's currently a free agent, so I'm sure it'd take seconds to shove him in the FC United squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Yeah probably do that unless the patch fixes it. How good are they in the editor? Should strengthen our squad somewhat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 The problem is, at this level, one researcher covers a whole league (more often than not, several leagues) rather than a single club. And what with players changing teams several times a year it is very hard to keep track of for every team. If you can, sign up to be FC United's researcher. I'd do it, if it wasn't for the fact I'm an Arsenal supporting Londoner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Yeah probably do that unless the patch fixes it. How good are they in the editor? Should strengthen our squad somewhat No idea lol. I don't know how to find out how good someone is using the editor. Give me 30 minutes or so, and I can take screenshots and PM them to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 The problem is, at this level, one researcher covers a whole league (more often than not, several leagues) rather than a single club. And what with players changing teams several times a year it is very hard to keep track of for every team. If you can, sign up to be FC United's researcher. I'd do it, if it wasn't for the fact I'm an Arsenal supporting Londoner No there is actually an FC researcher! I've offered to do it previously, but I'm sure the current guy is capable, I guess there is just some mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 He should be fired, seriously. Players that exist but not at the club in DB is almost excusable as an oversight, but to not even create players that don't exist...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Is there any kind of screenie any of you want of FC United, when I've gotten them to the BSN? I'm in mid-May now, so can start continuously reloading very soon. I bet I'm sitting here reloading for a good few hours lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Is there any kind of screenie any of you want of FC United, when I've gotten them to the BSN? I'm in mid-May now, so can start continuously reloading very soon. I bet I'm sitting here reloading for a good few hours lol. Hopefully be quick enough if we've got a good reputation! Good luck with that, I'm so excited to get a game started myself when the patch comes around PS: Screenies of Carlos Roca, Scott McManus and Jerome Wright would be good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 I doubt the patch will change much tbh. But the players look to have more scope to grow in this version, many seem to have double PA over CA, so some of them at least should last until the BSP, maybe even backups in npower L2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 I bet I'm sitting here reloading for a good few hours lol. The rep has had a sizeable bump in FM11 over FM10, so it will be much easier. Not easy, but easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I doubt the patch will change much tbh.But the players look to have more scope to grow in this version, many seem to have double PA over CA, so some of them at least should last until the BSP, maybe even backups in npower L2. I've always struggled to develop the lesser players as no one with take them on loan and play them. Obviously because there is no lower league. But I've seen good growth before in our 20-22 year olds, especially Sam Ashton last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 The rep has had a sizeable bump in FM11 over FM10, so it will be much easier. Not easy, but easier. I hope so. I sat there for about 3 hours trying to get them promoted in FM10, only to find that there were saves posted on this forum with them already promoted lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 I've always struggled to develop the lesser players as no one with take them on loan and play them. Obviously because there is no lower league. But I've seen good growth before in our 20-22 year olds, especially Sam Ashton last year. I used Sam Ashton as 1st choice until I got promoted to the CCC, and used him as a backup until the Premiership. True story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I have no idea what tactics to use when I finally get to play them this year. Any thoughts on a good tactic, from people who played lower league teams in the FM11 demo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I used Sam Ashton as 1st choice until I got promoted to the CCC, and used him as a backup until the Premiership. True story. I think the fact he was an ex-Bolton goalie (as in he was at Bolton for quite a while) gives him a large PA. He deserves it though, last season he was brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I have no idea what tactics to use when I finally get to play them this year. Any thoughts on a good tactic, from people who played lower league teams in the FM11 demo? Depends on the squad and who you can get. If you can get a good CB pairing then I'd go attacking with two wingers in a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. However, depends on how you want to play I've always found, boring though it may be, that using a 4-5-1 is good to get to the actual league. As long as you have either a quick striker or a big target man who can knock in goals it can work a treat with a side of weaker players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 I'm going 4-4-2, deep, long and direct. Keep it simple in lower leagues, as the players aren't good enough for anything too fancy. Got me UCL and Premiership glory last year, can't see why this year should be any different. BTW, who here uses their scouts to find players, rather than player search? If not, I suggest you do - it's much more rewarding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I probably won't change the current team much, unless there's a player who's way below par. I'll try the 4-5-1 and see how far that gets me. In FM10, I seem to remember playing my first couple of seasons with a lone, pacey striker. It worked well, as I was unbeaten in the BSN, and won the BSP quite comfortably as well. I'm going 4-4-2, deep, long and direct.Keep it simple in lower leagues, as the players aren't good enough for anything too fancy. Got me UCL and Premiership glory last year, can't see why this year should be any different. BTW, who here uses their scouts to find players, rather than player search? If not, I suggest you do - it's much more rewarding. I used only scouts up until League One, where I thought what the heck, and went player search crazy lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 BTW, who here uses their scouts to find players, rather than player search? If not, I suggest you do - it's much more rewarding. I think I may start doing this. I've always wanted to try it but given in. In the lower leagues, I'm always tempted to find free players that are really fast/strong/good at set pieces! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I've finally reached June 24th 2011! Only got 196 E-mails... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 I'm assuming league reset day is still the 25th... :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Yep, still 25th June. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Hmm... If Cambridge City were promoted and Histon were relegated, wouldn't they both go into the Blue Square South? In my save, they go into the Blue Square North. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 They would, I'm not sure the game can understand geography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 My saved game is already pants. I didn't know how to start the game with the actual FC United players loaded, so the team is filled with a bunch of random names. I didn't find that out until I got them promoted and clicked on the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hozhoz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Oh Maybe load all players from England? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMeds Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I'm sure last year there was an editor option, to "load next level in nation" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 Oh Maybe load all players from England? This, or use a file which retains players at certain clubs. I'll construct one and post it asap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Ah, you have to click customise, and make all players from clubs in England available. Here I go, with another two hour wait for June 24th 2011 *sigh* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 Ok, here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?706jaim4ttprck3 Place in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2011\data\db\1100\edt Once the patch is out, place it in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2011\data\updates\update-1110\db\1110\edt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Thank you, but I've already worked out another way of getting the same result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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