graeme355 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I was under the impression that in the CL the way that it was worked out was points and then head to head in the case of a the same points. Now with one game to go I am sitting on 12 points Man u 9 PSG 9 I have to play Cluj in my last game. I won 3-1 at old Trafford 1-0 at home I won 2-0 at home but lost 2-1 in Paris. By my estimation the best that can happen is that one of these teams will win and draw level with me on points if I lose in cluj, so I should have already qualified But it is still saying my possible finish is 1-3? Am I missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic_1967 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 is it possible for you to post up the screen shots of the table and the results please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme355 Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 will have to do it later at work at the moment and playing on my laptop during lunch - no internet conection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftg87 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 You are quite right, it doesn't make sense Whilst technically they are both within range of catching you points wise, since they are playing each other, only one of them could get the maximum 3 points and because the CL works on the head to head basis like you mentioned, then neither of them should be able to actually beat you to the 1st seeded position neither, so yes you should already have qualified, very very confusing :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The usual thing that people say is that if you reach 10 points you've qualified so I'd say you've already qualified Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The usual thing that people say is that if you reach 10 points you've qualified so I'd say you've already qualified A couple of years ago PSV got 10 points, but finished 3rd in their group see here, Monaco got 11 and Deportivo also 10 points. PSV even got a better goal difference +1 while Depor had 0, but based on their two games Depor finihsed second (first match Depor - PSV 2 - 0, second match PSV - Depor 3 - 2). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 A couple of years ago PSV got 10 points, but finished 3rd in their group see here, Monaco got 11 and Deportivo also 10 points. PSV even got a better goal difference +1 while Depor had 0, but based on their two games Depor finihsed second (first match Depor - PSV 2 - 0, second match PSV - Depor 3 - 2). Yeah thanks for pointing that out but as i said theusual point target is around the ten point mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Yeah thanks for pointing that out but as i said theusual point target is around the ten point mark Sorry but was not my intention to be rude, but to point out when two teams finish equal the games between them count and not the goal differance. Ofcourse your right that normally with 10 point you advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 A couple of years ago PSV got 10 points, but finished 3rd in their group see here, Monaco got 11 and Deportivo also 10 points. PSV even got a better goal difference +1 while Depor had 0, but based on their two games Depor finihsed second (first match Depor - PSV 2 - 0, second match PSV - Depor 3 - 2). Wasnt that the year when Monaco beat Deportivo like 6-3 or 8-5 or something absolutely nuts like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme355 Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 how do i add screenshots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme355 Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3529/3196781687_17104a618c_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3407/3196781827_64de3d5f83_b.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I think the answer is: it simply doesn't recognize that it isn't possible for both Man U and PSG to pick up three points in the last match. So it thinks both of them can get to 12 points. Its also not taking into account the tie-breaker edge you have over both teams .. it looks to me like you've finished first in your group regardless of the results in the final match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry but was not my intention to be rude, but to point out when two teams finish equal the games between them count and not the goal differance. Ofcourse your right that normally with 10 point you advance. No worries mate, i also apoligise for sounding slightly rude lol:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Wasnt that the year when Monaco beat Deportivo like 6-3 or 8-5 or something absolutely nuts like that? 8 - 3 for Monaco *were playing home) in the group stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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