David Ngog Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I am looking for a new laptop that will work well for FM12, I will mainly be using the laptop just to run FM. I was looking at this one... http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pav...90980-pdt.html Processor AMD Dual-Core E2-3000M processor (1.8 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB, 1 MB L2 cache) Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit RAM 4 GB - DDR3 - 6 GB maximum expandable memory Graphics card AMD Radeon HD 6380G Dual GPU -1 GB DDR3 dedicated - up to 1.98 GB total I think the graphics card is good enough to run matches in 3D? But the processor is only 1.8GHz and the system requirements say min 2.GHz on Windows 7. Would that make a big difference? If not what's the best laptop I could get for around £400 that would run it it quickly? THANKS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Tottenham Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 the Graphics is good well good enough to run in 3D matches, but i don't recommend AMD processors for some reasons, it's better to get corei5 or i7 .. depends on which screen size you like, and which battery life you prefere, and your budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thanks. What is more important, the graphics or the processor? It's hard to find a laptop that has a good graphics card and a good processor for a reasonable price. Budget is about £350, £400 at a push. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 the processor is more important and I recommend trying another site to buy from have a look here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/laptops-notebooks/b?ie=UTF8&node=429886031 it is hard to find a laptop with integrated graphics at 400 gb pounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thanks. What's the lowest kind of graphics card that would run the games in the 3D mode without any lag? I've heard Intel HD card isn't very good, is that true? Or would it be easier to buy a good graphics card separately? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Intel HD is bad that is true laptops aren't like desktop computers, buy a component and replace it with something better, you won't see that in a laptop either you buy a laptop with dedicated video card either you buy one without it's simple I recommend waiting and raising up more money, 400 pounds is not enough for what you want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thanks for the help. Is watching the games using the 3D match viewer that important? I could get a laptop with an i5 processor within my budget, which would run the game in general quite fast, right? But sacrifice the 3D viewing as it would come with an intel HD card. Also, is intel HD 3000 any different to just intel HD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 have a look here too http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=854282&CatId=4965 about Intel HD graphics you can read here : http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/hd-graphics/hd-graphics-developer.html I have intel hd graphics 3000 at work on a desktop computer and I remember football manager gave it half a star at video performance well I haven't used 3d match viewer but there are other players that use it and love it my opinion is don't buy a laptop with a poor dedicated video card, buy a laptop with a good video card, you might wanna use that laptop with other programs and games too. and don't forget the processor and ram too: at least dual-core with 2.5 Ghz and 3 GB of Ram Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Tottenham Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 both are important, and most laptops prices based in those two factcs, the processor & the type of video card. for gaming, video card is the most important thing, but you can't get average processor where you would find your laptop perform slowly or hot easily, and the later could lead your motherboard to be burned ( i know friends complained about this while playing football manager, and i've similar issue around 4 years ago ! ) Thanks. What's the lowest kind of graphics card that would run the games in the 3D mode without any lag? I've heard Intel HD card isn't very good, is that true? Or would it be easier to buy a good graphics card separately? i was searching in the site and others, it's look like it's better to try another site as he said. i would recommend Nividia graphics for you, because it's more about speed ( which is good for football 3D ) .. i don't think you need to worry that much about graphic cards to run 3D mode, in the last year while playing FM11, i had Toshiba, which it's ATI dedicated 512 MB, it was OK with me when power on, while the 3D mode a bit low when on battery, my laptop fell to the down 'poor use' , i didn't have enough money to spend so went for Samsong for £320, the video card was Nividia dedicated 265 MB, and the 3D mode works fine with me, even on Battery. so you must be careful, the video card not just about Nividia/ATI or dedicateed 1GB or 256MB.. it's also about Model number, and which video card designed for particular use/programm .. you can search and read about them in Wiki or more specialists people reviewers. But basically i prefere Nividia video cards ( series 330+ ) and it should work fine with you, and i recommend you not to get the lowest kind for praghics card to run games in 3D mode, you should try to get the best as much as you can - within your budget - to avoid of being forced to look for another one for next version or other game. Acer this one very good processor and excellent video card for around 700 dollar ( £450 ) with 14 screen size. depends on acer agent on your country, if good services or not, which i don't know, but it's OK in my country and i brought similar one to my brother. here are reviews about this one. alternative MSI for with 15.6 screen size. if you care about better brand, you may be forced to get Core i3 ( not quick ) or dedicated 512MB ( it guess it's would be still OK with next FM ) it's also depends on which screen size you, and if you care about more battery life/mobility or not. so you i suggest Asus [/url] or if you can go £450 for Toshiba , it's corei5 and Nividia 330 series 1GB dedicated . ( which i highly recommened ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 all 3 look good, the msi even has 6 GB RAM, you can't go wrong here well spotted spurs_q8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyfoot Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 First of all, the suggestions from Amazon US are irrelevant. Laptops are MUCH cheaper in the US and they don't ship to the UK. Even if you get it here somehow (through a friend?), you are likely to not have valid warranty. Having said that, in the UK you can't buy much with 400 quid. If you manage to find i3 2310m with integrated graphics (HD3000 will handle FM on low to medium details), that would do. If you can't, then I'd recommend working more on the processor side as this is more important for FM in a combo with some basic graphics card. An example of what you should be looking for - http://www.dabs.com/category/computing,laptops-and-netbooks,laptops/11105-15-54580000-4294963789 . HD3000( i3 2310m for example) is a class above Intel HD (i3 370m for example). On it you can run FIFA, DIRT3 and the CoD and BF games from 2009-10. FM12 will not be a problem on low settings and the processor is good enough for running a few leagues fluently. From what I've written and the budget you've given - http://www.dabs.com/products/lenovo-b570-i3-2310m-4gb-500gb-dvd-rw-15-6--w7hp-7FQX.html?refs=15-54580000-4294963789&src=3 or http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/samsung-series-3-np300e5a-a01dx-15-6-laptop-silver-11296544-pdt.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco c Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 is this laptop any use for fm alexyfoot? can be got for 495 euro with a promo discount? http://www.littlewoodsireland.ie/samsung-rv520-core-i5-6gb-ram-640gb-hard-drive-laptop---blacksilver/1008004251.prd?browseToken=%2fb%2f4873%2fs%2fbestsellers%2c0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyfoot Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Of course, it has an i5-4530, which is a great processor for home users right now...They don't list a separate graphics card so I am assuming it is the integrated option so as long as you don't want to play other 3D shooters/RPGs released after 2010, then it should be OK. For 500 euro it is a great deal obviously as it is worth probably 50 more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco c Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Will the integrated graphics card run fm in 3d? Sorry for all the questions,havent a breeze about this kinda stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The Intel HD 3000 graphic chip that is integrated into the latest Intel processors, is good enough to run the relatively modest (in terms of graphic card taxing) 3D that FM has. Get a laptop with an Intel i5 2410 or better processor, and you're sorted. Maybe with a graphic card in the medium range, like the Nvidia GT 540M, to be absolutely certain that FM's 3D graphics runs smoothly on high settings. Furthermore; 4 GB RAM should do fine - more is better, but not necessary. Also depends on how many leagues and how big a data base you want to run. Edit: Forget about processor clock speeds - they are not as relevant anymore as they used to be. There are other things in the architecture of a laptop processor that counts more. You can't go wrong with a modern Intel i5 or i7, in any case. AMD can not, simply put, compete with Intel as far as laptop processors go. For the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thanks for all the help. Looking at this one. http://www.dabs.com/products/lenovo-b570-i3-2310m-4gb-500gb-dvd-rw-15-6--w7hp-7FQX.html?refs=15-54580000-4294963789&src=3 Processor: Intel Core i3 2310M / 2.1 GHz ( Dual-Core ) RAM: 4GB Graphics ControllerIntel HD Graphics 3000 Dynamic Video Memory Technology Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBev Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I am considering buying a laptop with a solid state drive - any views on the performance boost that would provide? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 http://www.dabs.com/products/lenovo-...94963789&src=3 Processor: Intel Core i3 2310M / 2.1 GHz ( Dual-Core ) RAM: 4GB Graphics ControllerIntel HD Graphics 3000 Dynamic Video Memory Technology Do you think this is good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco c Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 i have narrowed my choice down to 2? which one is the better out of the 2? cheers for the feedback http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005TPRWN4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE http://www.littlewoodsireland.ie/samsung-rv520-core-i5-6gb-ram-640gb-hard-drive-laptop---blacksilver/1008004251.prd?browseToken=%2fb%2f4873%2fs%2fbestsellers%2c0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty1974 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 This thread is perfect as i also are looking into buying a laptop for my fm 2012 or even 3d shooters if possible. This is the laptop i have in mind, please anyone who has good knowledge of laptops tell me what they think please. Sony VAIO CA2Z0E/L 4Gb 320Gb 14 inch Core i5 Laptop - Purple Intel Core i5 processor 4GB RAM and 320GB Hard Drive 14.1in VAIO Display with LED backlight (1600 x 900) Backlit keyboard Integrated Bluetooth technology WiFi Built-in HD webcam and microphone HDMI out Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium Sony Vaio CA2Z0E/L Series laptop or even this one Sony VAIO CB2M0E/B Core i5 6Gb 640Gb 15.6 inch Laptop Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Intel Core i5-2410M processor 6GB RAM 640GB Hard Drive 15.5" display Blu-ray combo drive Integrated graphics 802.11 b/g/n WiFi; Bluetooth 0.3Mp webcam and microphone Sony VAIO CB2M0E/B laptop Please let me know what you think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyfoot Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Marco C, if you can get them at the same price - I'd prefer the Samsung, I like Lenovos but this is the only laptop in their portfolio I dislike design-wise. If the Lenovo is cheaper, it is not bad as the specs seem similar. Scotty, Sony with integrated graphics = any other brand with independent graphics card (price-wise). If you want to play shooters and are on a budget go for something else. Minimum I'd aim at is Nvidia 540m or equivalent AMD cards. The integrated graphics are not good for 3D shooters... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Lenovo B570 has all the specs mentioned core i5, 4GB RAM, Inte HD 3000, 500GB HD, etc and runs fm2012 without any issues at all on high graphic settings, got mine from Laptps Direct for £430 im more than happy with it although it may struggle to run COD and games of a more detailed nature i only bought mine for fm2012 though so not a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 What is better? i5 with an Intel HD 3000 graphics card. Or. i3 with a NVIDIA GeForce GT520M 1GB graphics card? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 FM and SSD: With a SSD you will load and save games faster. That's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 What is better? i5 with an Intel HD 3000 graphics card. Or. i3 with a NVIDIA GeForce GT520M 1GB graphics card? Please help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty1974 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 lol i was about to ask a similar question, i was wondering if Intel HD 3000 graphics card was good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 lol i was about to ask a similar question, i was wondering if Intel HD 3000 graphics card was good I would like to know this also. I won't be using them for any other games, just FM. All I want to know is if it can run the 3D match viewer properly. Is there really any need to get a proper gaming graphics card just to run the 3D mode? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyfoot Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 For 3D shooters, racing games, etc - External Graphics Card. For FM and everyitng else - Better processor. Simples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty1974 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 external graphics card like what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyfoot Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Like Nvidia 540m for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty1974 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 any good laptops woth that in them on kandco catalogue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Intel HD3000 runs FM perfect no lag and crystal clear images with a good screen or monitor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Intel HD3000 runs FM perfect no lag and crystal clear images with a good screen or monitor. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ngog Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005TPRWN4/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=computers&psc=1 Decided to go for this one. Lenovo G570 15.6 inch Notebook Black Intel i5 2430M 2.4GHz RAM 6GB 750GB Intel HD 3000 Graphics All for only £439.99 Very good price and specs I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Good choice IMO very similar to my B570 i find mine perfect for FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazbo Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I am on MacBook Pro i5 (3 months old) and FM 12 run very well and smooth.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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