Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 the files are below there are two versions of the tactic the normal tactic should be used in most situations apart from when the opposistion is playing on the counter you should always read the scout reports for teams and if they are countering use the control version. if the opposition play a similar formation to you ie two wide AMs and a lone striker you should put backwards arrows on your full backs and have them man marking. Mediafire Normal http://www.mediafire.com/?k2j4xen45iy Control http://www.mediafire.com/?klijnyj2nxy File Factory Normal http://www.filefactory.com/file/af80303/n/4-3-3_Liverpool_Dec_2009_tac Control http://www.filefactory.com/file/af80304/n/4-3-3_Control_Liverpool_Aug_2009_tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 this is my formation and the players on there gives you an idea of what kind of players you need. My wingers are babel and pandev. babel is right footed and plays on the left side and pandev left footed on right this helps a lot also wingers need good dribbling and finishing long shots also helps crossing is not important so dont look for this when buying wingers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 in the midfield you need a attack minded midfielder (gerrard) needs good long shots passing finishing and off the ball. Hamsik is good in this role if you have not got someone like gerrard in your team. alongside him you need a creative midfielder (alonso) needs good passing creativity first touch. for the defensive midfielder (mascherano) you need tackling marking strength work rate and passing helps too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 Striker needs a bit of everything (torres) finishing composure pace accelaration heading jumping and dribbling also it is better if the striker is a FC because he has a free role if your striker is an ST learn him to play as an AMC and he will thean be a AM/FC The defence is pretty much like any other if you have any questions please ask PLAYMAKER IS LEFT CENTRE MID PUT HIM IN LIST BUT DONT TICK BOX PUT YOUR STRIKER IN TARGET MAN LIST BUT DONT TICK BOX YOUR RIGHT FREE KICK TAKER SHOULD BE LEFT FOOTED AND VICE VERSA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMUFC08 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 What kind of results have you had with this? Also how do you do with possession and ccc on adverage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 i won the premiership and FA cup in first season i will load up game and look at match stats for some of my games in amin hang on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 around 20 shots a game 10 on target 2 or 3 clear cut chances Possesion usually Between 55-60% Pass completion around 75% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMUFC08 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Loving those match stats, ill give it a bash for the rest of my season, iv got around 10 games left + cups:thup: I take it you use control in difficult away games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 it depends read the scouting report if it sais they often look to draw the opposition on to them before attemting the counter then use control if they play low tempo use the normal tactic can you post your results on here please bobMUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 Loving those match stats, ill give it a bash for the rest of my season, iv got around 10 games left + cups:thup:I take it you use control in difficult away games? are you playing with man united bob if you are i would think ronaldo would score loads in this tactic if you played him on the left or the right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMUFC08 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Yeah im United, hopefully your right about ronaldo, i gave up on my other tactic when i just got dumped out of Europe to Inter. Ill post results at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 ok good luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy2006 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 why haven't u come on to play in the clan tonight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneek Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Gonna give it a try whit Inter, ho should i use as playmaker? Viera, Cambiasso, Stankovic, Muntari or Jimenez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 why haven't u come on to play in the clan tonight? because i thought you retired me mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 Gonna give it a try whit Inter, ho should i use as playmaker? Viera, Cambiasso, Stankovic, Muntari or Jimenez? i would use jimenez and play him left MC withj Stankovic right MC and cambiasso defensive mid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny9 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I have been struggling with tactics for a while but come across this one. i think it is a brill tactic, started a new game with real madrid and the opening of the season has started very well.i have played 6 games in league and won them all only conceding 2 and scoring 17. played 2 games in champions league and won them both comfortably. Solid in defence and good goin forward.i have won the super cup against valencia 5-1 on agg. i would post screenies but dont know how to. What effect does it happen when you only put, say van der vaart as playmaker but dont tick playmaker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 I have been struggling with tactics for a while but come across this one. i think it is a brill tactic, started a new game with real madrid and the opening of the season has started very well.i have played 6 games in league and won them all only conceding 2 and scoring 17. played 2 games in champions league and won them both comfortably. Solid in defence and good goin forward.i have won the super cup against valencia 5-1 on agg. i would post screenies but dont know how to. What effect does it happen when you only put, say van der vaart as playmaker but dont tick playmaker! thanks for feedback when you set van der vaart as a playmaker but do not tick the box he will only act as a semi playmaker meaning he only is a playmaker when he has the ball it basicly means that everyone will not be passing to him as much as if he was a full playmaker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny9 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 The tactic is working really well although barca wont let up on my game at the moment, especially the control tactic. i have tried the control tactic in last 20 mins of a game and its working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 ok good to see its working keep posting your results and good luck who are your top goalscorers and how many have they got Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny9 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 my top goalscorers are zhirkov with 9 close second is huntelaar with 8 and van nistelrooy and raul with 5. i find that the wingers have alot of chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 yes that is what i intended to do who is your right winger is it robben and are you doing well defensively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny9 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 yes my defence is ok lost two and drawn one in league second behind barca, playin robben on right but looking for an superb amr at the mo cos he keeps picking up knocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 Messi but you will never get him off barca Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny9 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 just looking at marquinhos from palmeiras, who do you have playing there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 pandev retrained position he scored 22 league goals and was europes top marksman. you could get ronaldo if you can afford him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny9 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 how long it take pandev to retrain position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 bout a month he is already orange there (competant) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMUFC08 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Well im not going to be able to finish the season with these tactics as iv become intrested in some Brian Clough tactics, mainly due to that new film about him. But i played about 8 games with them and they do seem pretty good, i dont think theyd suit a team which hasnt got some quality in the side though, youve got the winger setup spot on and they do often have chances to score, however the defensive setup needs to be tightened imo, its really vunerable to being hit on the break, despite that though i had good results, two draws that i should have won and the rest wins, most notably 4-1 against Chelsea, maybe if these Clough tactics dont work i might re-visit this tactic:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 ok bob thanks for the positive feedback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 anyone tried it with a lower league team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 anyone tried it with a lower league team? not sure if it will work mate it works for me with liverpool and has worked for others with real madrid and man utd. if you get the right kind of players in i see no reason why it shouldnt work with lower league teams though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I give it a try with a lower league team So if the opp plays with AMR AML and a lone striker than I must give both CB's a arrow back and set them to man mark? what to do when they play aml amr and 2 strikers? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 I give it a try with a lower league teamSo if the opp plays with AMR AML and a lone striker than I must give both CB's a arrow back and set them to man mark? what to do when they play aml amr and 2 strikers? thanks zonal mark on your CBs if they play 1 striker but have your fullbacks man mark their wingers any other time leave settings unchanged can you post your results on here please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 ????!??1?1?1/// For me to get it: Opp : AMR AML lone ST: Both CB's arrows back and set on zonal mark, FB man mark wingers? 'm I right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkTLB Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Burford: decided to try this with my Man City team - 1st season after getting mixed results with my 4-2-3-1 and must say have been very impressed with both the results and the quality of football ive been seeing. Robinho (AML) and Vagner Love (ST) have been superb, with either Elano or Arteta (MCa) playing well above expectations also. Anyways heres my results (would post screenies but wont let me for some reason) P28 W16 D7 L5 F50 A23 And if im honest everyone of those defeats was a probably due to poor team talks (apart from a 6-0 defeat to Inter in Uefa Cup Quaters - down to 9 men after 15 mins!!!) So all in all looking forward to a new season. Gonna have a little look at tightening at the back. I'll let u know if i get anything useful out of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 ????!??1?1?1///For me to get it: Opp : AMR AML lone ST: Both CB's arrows back and set on zonal mark, FB man mark wingers? 'm I right? yes that is correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Burford: decided to try this with my Man City team - 1st season after getting mixed results with my 4-2-3-1 and must say have been very impressed with both the results and the quality of football ive been seeing. Robinho (AML) and Vagner Love (ST) have been superb, with either Elano or Arteta (MCa) playing well above expectations also.Anyways heres my results (would post screenies but wont let me for some reason) P28 W16 D7 L5 F50 A23 And if im honest everyone of those defeats was a probably due to poor team talks (apart from a 6-0 defeat to Inter in Uefa Cup Quaters - down to 9 men after 15 mins!!!) So all in all looking forward to a new season. Gonna have a little look at tightening at the back. I'll let u know if i get anything useful out of it thanks for the feedback a few others have said it needs to be tighter at the back if you find anything works well please let me know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_the_pea Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 im gonna give it a go now with man utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley J Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Gonna give this a go with Barcelona. 3 questions: 1) This is for patch 9.3 right? 2) Why has Gerrard Liverpool's best player only got 6.96 average rating? Are there any ways of improving this position cos was gonna use Iniesta here but don't want poor ratings for him. 3) How do full backs do on this? Are they defensive or offensive and do they chip in with assists (I have Dani Alves and Guadardo who trained as a left back is quality now) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Gonna give this a go with Barcelona. 3 questions: 1) This is for patch 9.3 right? 2) Why has Gerrard Liverpool's best player only got 6.96 average rating? Are there any ways of improving this position cos was gonna use Iniesta here but don't want poor ratings for him. 3) How do full backs do on this? Are they defensive or offensive and do they chip in with assists (I have Dani Alves and Guadardo who trained as a left back is quality now) dont worry about that rating for gerrard he had only played 3 games in that screenshot the season before he got a 7.21 and yes its for 9.3 my full backs are aurelio and arbeloa they did ok with assists as long as they are pretty good at defending its ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkTLB Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Im currently using Srna and Bridge as fullbacks and theyre playing awesome. Srna 3 goals & 3 assists in 5 games and Bridge 2 goals & 4 assists. Tweaked the RWB to mixed and upped CF by 3 notches and theyre playing awesome. And dont worry about improving the MCa, any intelligent midfielder will play well there and get u loads of assists and goals. Currently using Arteta = magic!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley J Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 dont worry about that rating for gerrard he had only played 3 games in that screenshot the season before he got a 7.21 and yes its for 9.3 my full backs are aurelio and arbeloa they did ok with assists as long as they are pretty good at defending its ok Thanks for the feedback. There has been a definite lack of good 4-3-3 tactics in previous patches for 09 and 08 so I'm glad there may be one here. I will let you know how I'm getting on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 Im currently using Srna and Bridge as fullbacks and theyre playing awesome. Srna 3 goals & 3 assists in 5 games and Bridge 2 goals & 4 assists.Tweaked the RWB to mixed and upped CF by 3 notches and theyre playing awesome. And dont worry about improving the MCa, any intelligent midfielder will play well there and get u loads of assists and goals. Currently using Arteta = magic!!! thanks for feedback i will try out your few tweaks and see if it works well for me if they work better i will post them in here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 Thanks for the feedback. There has been a definite lack of good 4-3-3 tactics in previous patches for 09 and 08 so I'm glad there may be one here. I will let you know how I'm getting on ok read the previous post and someone has recomended a few changes to help your full backs and foward and can you post your results here please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Thinking of giving this a go with my Sunderland team in 2018 I have won alot but want to change to a lone striker as I have alot of good wingers and CMs. My wingers are regens and my right winger has awesome stats but a weak left foot should I retrain him to play on the left? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burford Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 Thinking of giving this a go with my Sunderland team in 2018 I have won alot but want to change to a lone striker as I have alot of good wingers and CMs. My wingers are regens and my right winger has awesome stats but a weak left foot should I retrain him to play on the left? it would probably be better if he played on the left if possible try to get wingers who can use both feet ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_the_pea Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Im liking this tactic so far, think im gonna stick with it for a bit heres my results so far with this tactic http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww41/1peewee1/433tactic.jpg my last game away to liverpool was most pleasing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartek1 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 The tactic is very good, most goals score the striker, however the wingers also get some (in my case the left one). The MC with foward arrow is quite important player, he gets a lot of assists if he can pass acurately.Unfortunately the DMC with the back arrow regularly gets a poor rating, dunno why :/ But still, in almost every game 20+ shots, more or less half of them on target(depends on the game) So far I played 10 games with this tactic and won 9 (one was drawn aftr my heavy domination, it was a miracle that nobody scored) Tactic recommended for strong and medium teams Btw I play Juventus (but I'm in 2018 so the squad is totaly different, just 4-5 players left from original roster) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmforbes Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 What kind of instructions have you given the wingers? I'm at work so I can't download the tactic and check it out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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