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  1. Yeah, that makes sense. And I do find this system does create some great goals on the break or fast transitions. The left flank is very aggressive, but it’s balanced by a pacey left-sided centre-back, a holding role on the left side of the midfield pairing and, because I’m Man United, most teams sit back and play on the break, so the risk/reward balance works.
  2. This is a really great thread, It’s quite similar to one I recently used on FM17, which was very much based on the 07-08 Man United team. The principle of defending in a 4-4-2 and attacking in a 4-3-3 was in my thoughts. I went with: GK (d), FB (s) BPD (d) CD (d) WB (a), WM (a) CM (s) DLP (d) WM (a), AM (a), CF (s) - the striker and AM were offset so it was an asymmetric 4-4-1-1 like the OP. I ended up having both wide players on attack duties because I found that with a support duty, the wide midfielder was too deep and we became quite toothless in attack. Do you find this at all @Solosin?
  3. I'm not really seeing anything wrong with Rashford tbh. He's not going to be prolific in that system, which is geared to Cavani and Bruno being the main scorers. Ignore the average rating, which is flawed at best, and see if he's actually doing what you want him to do. Ask yourself - what is he meant to be doing in the team, and then see if he's achieving that.
  4. I forgot to add, one of the reasons why I tend to struggle in these scenarios is that the AI becomes very good at hogging possession. Even far weaker teams start passing the ball like Guardiola-era Barcelona so it becomes very difficult to create that 'sustained pressure' that Fergie's teams were so good at doing.
  5. I often struggle chasing games, so am interested in learning how others do it. As a United fan, I grew accustomed to seeing us get late goals. There was not many things more thrilling in football than watching those United sides chasing late goals, particularly at Old Trafford. One of the key things that United always did in these situations was to get plenty of men into the box, and use lots of width. They'd put crosses in - not aimless ones, but hit with quality, and have lots of people both attacking the ball, and lots ready to pick up the second ball if it was cleared. That helped them to build the pressure. Apparently they used to practice these scenarios regularly in training.
  6. It’s easy to forget just how good Rooney was back then. Pretty much the complete footballer.
  7. I do sometimes wish Bruno would play in a deeper role in real life like you have him here. His work rate and technical ability would make him a brilliant no.8, and be a much more effective way of getting him and Pogba or VDB in the same starting 11.
  8. I think the difference between what @Jambo98did and what I think @crusadertsaris looking to do is that Jambo used a 4-5-1 shape and changed player roles to achieve different variations, whereas this thread shows how you can move one or two players to achieve a different formation. Both perfectly valid, but quite different.
  9. I’ve been thinking about the video that @themadsheep2001posted, and the bit towards the end where Fergie said he wanted the team to attack with pace, power, penetration and unpredictability. Copying the 07/08 team is really hard because of the particular players that the team had - there’s not many Ronaldo’s or Rooney’s about! And the flexibility of the formation is difficult to copy in FM (especially the positional switching between the front 3). But I’ve been thinking about how you might take these principles and apply them. I suppose there’s a few things you need. Deeper formation (so 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 rather than a top heavy 4-2-3-1) to encourage the mid-block and the counter attack Players with high ratings for pace, strength, balance, decisions, flair, vision, off the ball movement, as well as high work rate and teamwork A relatively balanced mentality (I’m on FM17, so in my game that would be counter, balanced or control) If using a lower mentality, you’d want something like ‘more direct passing’ to move the ball forward quicker (I assume this happens more in the higher mentalities and the instruction wouldn’t be needed). Be more expressive applied to the forwards. (On older versions like mine where you had the team shape modifier, perhaps a ‘fluid’ shape, which encourages creative freedom: in fact, the in-game description of ‘fluid’ describes how this team played “the team is split into broad attacking and defensive units with the more creative players responsible for the attacking phase... the team will be encouraged to play more flowing football with players allowed more creative freedom”) The right PPMs: ‘drops deep’ for the forwards, ‘get into opposition area’ for the ‘Ronaldo’, perhaps ‘plays 1-2s’ for the forwards as well. The Carrick and Scholes roles would need ‘dictates tempo’, ‘switch ball to opposite flank’.
  10. Great read. It was a long time ago, and therefore I might be mis-remembering, but I always thought the second formation - used in tougher games, especially in Europe, was more of a 4-1-4-1. Carrick would usually be the DM, with two 'runners' either side - usually Anderson and Fletcher. Either Rooney or Ronaldo would play upfront, with the other wide, and Park or Nani would be the other winger. The other really interesting thing about this side was how it evolved during the 3 seasons. In 06/07 it was a 4-4-2, with Saha (or Larsson) upfront with Rooney and Ronaldo more of a winger. By 08/09 the arrival of Berbatov changed the shape again to be less flexible than in 07/08. 08/09 also saw the emergence of Fletcher (who was used sporadically in the CL season) and also Giggs playing as a CM.
  11. Great work. Surprised there hasn't been more interest in this, based on the number of people asking for this very thing from Ozil over the years...
  12. Long time lurker and only very occasionally post in here. Just wanted to say that it's really heartwarming to see how everyone has contributed so far. It has genuinely brought a smile to my face reading it through just now. If it's not too late, please add me to the prize draw and if I win, donate the money to the hospice.
  13. If I remember correctly, in much older versions of the game you’d get players punching each other. I have memories of the text commentary saying “he’s gone berserk”.
  14. It's what people have called Solskjaer. He was my first thought when I was reading your post.
  15. Great stuff. Been trying to implement something similar on FM17, but have used a asymmetric 4-4-1-1 with the AM and CF offset (the CF on the side of the WMa, the AM on the side of the Ws). You should be careful playing like this though. You’ll get lots of people saying that you’re a “PE teacher” and need to be a better coach that focuses on “patterns of play”
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