[Player development makes zero sense to me in this game.]

1 hour ago, francis#17 said:

A larger sample would actually mean that we would be able to see how players CA changes on average for all age groups in the game (instead of only testing how well you can develop players), while taking into account all these game world variables that will affect development. When the sample size is 1 then we have no idea if you were just unlucky because of the game world variables.

Anyway as you say its a chore for one person to do this. So far I havent had any issues developing 20+ players in low reputation leagues though so I dont think you are right about them not developing.

You could do it retro active by saving every year, simlulate 10-20 years and find the top 100? players in champions league. then load back previous years/saves to see where they started and how they developed. idk. I dont even have the tool to see the hidden CA or PA values you are talking about so I cant do it.

[Player development makes zero sense to me in this game.]

@Overmars Sorry, I only read the OP and I thought he included fm19 into this by the statement "This FM version is after 3 versions finally one that is fun to me, but there is something almost game breaking for me. ( not just in this version, this was in last couple of years)"

[Player development makes zero sense to me in this game.]

I had a decent regen striker at Dulwitch Hamlet in fm19. I loaded up the save at age 16, 22 and 32. I felt that he became better every single year, or kept pace with the promotions. He even managed to get a green circle at Complete Forward for a single season around age 29, but then lost it again (the green circle suddenly became fuly green for a season, then complete black/red again). I took picture of his stats. Did he really peak at 23 like you guys are suggesting?

Here is the earlies save I found with him in the squad a few months after he came to the club:

 

Here is his stats at age 22:

EDIT: I found a picture of when he learned to play as a Complete Forward at his peek performance:

And here he is at age 32: (he was 2.5 star rated before I sold him for 5.5M) the attributtes was identical at age 31, but didnt want to post too many picures.

He almost played 500 matches for the club, Mainly as Advanced forward, except for the single season around age 29 when he was able to be a complete forward.

[Funny Screenshots Thread]

I took this a while ago, I did qualify for the champions cup, but I think the board wanted more it seems.

[Personalised Roles is odd in fm20]

Hi, When I use a personalised role, like make one player a inverted winger, the default role also becomes inverted winger for all other players. Then if I use a player with personalised role Winger attack that becomes the new "standard" role for everyone to use. It seems the "default" role switches to whatever personalised role was last used.

To prevent this I have 2 options; 1. dont use personalised roles or 2. give every player a pesonalised role for that position (nobody use "default"), even if most of them have the same role type.

Is there any way to make the default/normal role stay as as the role I decided, and let the few players who cant play in that role use a personalized role? For instance all of my strikers are advanced forwards, but one of them is a poacher, can he be personalised poacher without also making everyone else play as a poacher after him in a way?

[FM20 Performance Benchmarking Thread]

Type: Custom Desktop

Model: Fractal Design, Picture: https://imgur.com/a/FhLHu

CPU Model: Amd FX-8350 (from 2012)

CPU Base Frequency: 4.10 GHz
CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.10 GHz (no turbo mode)

RAM: 16GB
RAM Clockspeed: DDR3 1866 MHz

GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB (bought holiday 2016)

Storage Type: SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA)

Benchmark A: 1 min 50 Sec

Benchmark B: 11 min 58 Sec

Benchmark C: 12 min 43 Sec

I am thinking about upgrading my computer, its getting old. but I cant afford it. I think I got a decent time on the test all considered.

[Welp...Is It Time for a New Save???]

2 minutes ago, FrazT said:

I think that the use of the word "required" is to set the bar at a high level and that allows the board to make allowances if you fall just short- if the expectations are lowered by using "expect", then it cuts down the options.  

I forgot to write this. I think the "required" statements carry more weight onto the overall performance score. example failing 1 required goal makes more impact on the score (A-F) than failing 3 favored goals. They are more important for the club. but its just as easy to get a green/pass on a required goal as it is on a favored or desired goal. So its not about how "hard" it is to pass, but how much it means to the club that you did pass. I think the "importance" words could be changed to reflect this, but I cant think of a better word myself.

For instance, I have "required" = "Make the most out of set pieces" = Green Delighted - I think if the goal was only favored or desired, I would still have a green delighted, not anything more. But the goal would have carry less weight on my grade.

[Welp...Is It Time for a New Save???]

2 hours ago, LyghtWayve said:

Thanks everyone.

I did win my next game.  I will see what happens and keep everyone updated.  I don't want to be sacked 😭😭😭😭😭

Have any of you been sacked?

I have been sacked a few times. You need to get a E minus or F on the overall score including tranfers, matches ect. You get multiple required board meetings where you can ask for another month to improve things. Sometims they give you a target like 10 points from the next 4 matches or else you are fired. It can take 3 months/3 meetings and if you dont improve you often get sacked right after a lost match/the final straw. But It can be easy to find a new job without starting over.

[Welp...Is It Time for a New Save???]

On 27/12/2020 at 02:37, FrazT said:

You have to reach then playoffs as a minimum, so I would say that your time will run out pretty quickly if you dont start winning.

I think the word "required" is the wrong term to use (by the game). I got a green "Passed" at "finish in the top 2 spots" despite finishing in 4th place. I think a more suitable word would be excpect, or simply want/hope. idk english is not my first language. I can give you many more examples of getting below the "required" in cups and stuff and still getting a green/good grade from the board. Edit: (I play fm20, not fm21)

[How to find staff in FM20]

Hi, Most of my staff has turned down a new contract and I am in june. They are all leaving in a month. I am unable to place a staff advert for their roles, because they are still here. How do you guys find replacements for the staff members who is leaving? Do you really play the pre-season without example assistant manager while the staff advert is looking for a replacement? Or do you just use staff seach and filter by atributes? Or perhaps try and sign the staff from clubs in the same league?

Is there a mod for the game that allows me to place a staff advert for a filled possition, it was a feature in fm19. odd that its not a thing in fm20.

[How to tell if Home Grown for ECC?]

Hi, I have problems finding players who are home grown for the ECC Registration. For context I manage Goytre United in Wales, in FM20 I am in year 2034. About 70% of my players are shown as home grown in the nation on the "home grown" Squad page info. And They do not count as home grown in the Squad registration for European Champions Cup (also EC and EC2). The Squad registration says "Players who has played in Wales for 3 years before age 21", but anyone that has 3 years before age 21 in England, Scotland, North Ireland are considered "home Grown" on the Squad Page as well as when I scout for players.

TLDR: Is there a different home-grown Collum I can use in Squad page, and Search criteria in player scouted that is equal or identical to the ECC rules, and not to the League rules. This would make life easier. I have problems with selection because I didn't take this into account before it was too late.

Thanks for any advice!

[3 character names for clubs]

I would like to add that the 3 letter shortening should correspond to the real world, so they are identical and not seperate/different from real life.

[Which new things you wanna see on the next FM's?]

Is this a open question to anyone? In that case ill add my wishes;

1. Continue to be able to play single-player while being offline, without the need for internet or relying on a server to progress (When the servers for Dirt rally 2 is down due to high traffic, you cannot drive singleplayer)

2. Hope they keep the full price tag, and not go "free to play", and dont put in cards/lootboxes or microtransactions.

3. Make a full game before releasing it, without the need for lots of patches/bug fixes for 3-6 months before it becomes a decent game. (It would be the first game in 5  years to do so if they can manage this, nobody release a working game anymore).

[(suggestion) Wage Budget Calulation Change]

The "currently spending" wage budget is currently applying all the bonuses and wages in all players contracts and adding them together. BUT depending on who starts matches the actuall amount of money spent can be different from this number.

I would like to propose that the "current spending on wage" is calculated from expenditure on wage + bonuses, perhaps a average of the past 6 months with some weight on the last month or somethng and NOT based on the hypotetical "add all contracts together" method that is currently used.

Example: you play a semi-pro team. you have NO players on wages. only apperance fee, goal bonus, unused sub bonus ect. You could potentialy have 50 players in the squd, but you only start 11 of them and maximum paying 14 players per fixture. the other players DO NOT get payed. But they are added to the "wage budget used".. At some clubs this makes it hard to have more than 18 players, depending on how many "stars" you have, and hard to manage injuries and rotation.

[Join Online LLM 10 Season Challenge]

TLDR: Hi are you from Europe/UK and want to play a online game most Evenings, send a friend request or message. Looking for people who wants to join me and Crimbo in a little Online game. When? Most evenings weekdays after work and weekend.

Online Lower League Management 10 Season Challenge!
Start: Unempoloyed as a Sunday League Manager with no Licenses.
Goal: Try to get as many Unique Trophies you can by winning cups and leagues.
Winner: The one with the most Unique Trophies after 10 seasons.

Leagues: Not decided, you can help decide.
Rules: Normal LLM rules, send a message if you dont know them. Possible extra challenges along the way. 

Hope to Start Monday Evening, If you want to play please be online and send me a message/friend invite in Steam on Monday(Today). If you want to join but also wants to alter/change the challenge in any way feel free to post suggestions, or send a message on Steam. We can use a Steam Group Chat when we play, Click https://s.team/chat/JVOpTlpQ to be part of the steam Chat. on

[[Suggestion] Add feature from FM19 into FM20? (Staff Advert)]

I want to be able to go to Staff -> Job Center and click the bottm right button to Place Advert for a role that is already filled/taken. In FM19 you could place a advert any time like for instance a month before the current staff members contract is over.

Example: I have a bad assistant manager, I want a new one. I have to wait for him to leave, Place Advert and be 2-4 weeks without any assistant manager. In FM19 this was not a problem.
Example 2: When I have 7/8 allowed coaches, I can place an advert. If I have 8/8 Coaches I am unable to place an advert for coaches. The same goes for all the other roles.

(I know you can use staff search and filter by attributes, but I like the realism or challenge and I don't use this feature for that reason.)

I get inbox messages about Hire-ing new Staff to "improve quality" every month from my backroom staff. So I dont see a reason why you cant look for people yourself via an advert.

Is there any reason behind this? Perhaps a tecnical limitation to fm20? What do you think. And do you think there is any chance we can get this feature in fm20?

[Add feature from FM19 into FM20?]

6 minutes ago, FrazT said:

Ask in the Features Request forum

Ok, thanks for the tip. I am not here often and was not aware it had a separate area. If you want you can delete this one(I didn't see a way to delete), I will post where you suggested.

[Add feature from FM19 into FM20?]

I want to be able to go to Staff -> Job Center and click the bottm right button to Place Advert for a role that is already filled/taken. In FM19 you could place a advert any time like for instance a month before the current staff members contract is over.

Example: I have a bad assistant manager, I want a new one. I have to wait for him to leave, Place Advert and be 2-4 weeks without any assistant manager. In FM19 this was not a problem.

(I know you can use staff search and filter by attributes, but I like the realism or challenge and I don't use this feature for that reason.)

I get inbox messages about Hire-ing new Staff to "improve quality" every month from my backroom staff. So I dont see a reason why you cant look for people yourself via an advert.

Is there any reason behind this? Perhaps a tecnical limitation to fm20? What do you think. And do you think there is any chance we can get this feature in fm20?

[Trouble with the leaderboards]

Do you happen to know what affects the score you get? I have never understood what the leaderboard number represent. Does training, signings, issues resolved and press conferances all give/loose you points depending on how good of a job you do?

[How does Offside and heading work]

Hello. I am not a expert in football. Could you help me understand how offside works when someone is heading the ball? I am playing football manager 20 and I had a (to me) odd situation. -Is a Header to another player considered a passing in the same way as if you pass the ball with the feet in relation to the offside rule?

A player passed the ball forward towards the strikers. The reciving player was on side and the other player was offside in this moment. and the replay did show this moment (in game). But the passing went to the player who was on side. 2. He received the ball on his head and passed it sideways to the other guy. If you freeze the moment he is heading the ball, both strikers are on side in that moment. So the game thinks its a pass from player A to C, and does not consider that player B did head the ball in between. Can you explain?