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2 minutes ago, pepepelanda said:
hello, was there any solution?
I don't think so. I tried my main file and it still was missing the NACL. Disappointing.
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I'll add my save as well. It's up on SI Cloud under the name of "East Valley FC.fm"
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3 hours ago, nielsoncp said:
I have a similar problem. I have a US 10 tier database (again, hello old friends) that crashes to Desktop on Monday, August 22nd. There aren't any other events happening on the date - I've cleared all of the other events of the date, and it still crashes to desktop. I'm attaching the file - hopefully this provides some more context for our issues.
(Added context - it works perfectly fine when it's in basic mode (also attached) - the only CTD happens in advanced mode.)
USA - 10 Tiers - CEUD - Advanced Mode - reduced $.fmf USA - 10 Tiers - CEUD - Reduced $.fmf
Ugh. I thought I did something with Daveincid's stuff added as well when it crashed for me. I just did a test and August 22nd it crashes for me as well. I was debating starting another save without that stuff. But odd as it worked when I holidayed into the future to test. Only failed when I was actually playing it.
It's always gotta be something.
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15 hours ago, Zachary Whyte said:
Hello, this is a known issue we're currently investigating.
@Digijustin you are correct in that it is hardcoded to use the MLS, so if you edit the MLS instead, it should work.
Another thing worth noting is that the MLS is required to have 24 teams in order for the North American continental cups to run.
In your original file, changing the rules to affect the MLS and then increasing to 24 teams should allow the cups to run.
So unfortunately doing the MLS trick doesn't seem to work with Advanced rules. This is a bummer as my DB is "working" but has no NACL included in the game. I have tried a few things as far as adding the MLS into my league setup and still not seeing it. Again, the list of hardcoded items would really help out here as us DB editors are working blind trying to try random things to see if they work.
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2 hours ago, picketyp said:
All, this has been fixed in 23.3! I'm able to test AR without the error popping up in USA databases. Thank you FM team!
You might want to check to see if you still have North American Champions League. I created this bug to track it:
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11 minutes ago, Zachary Whyte said:
Hello, this is a known issue we're currently investigating.
@Digijustin you are correct in that it is hardcoded to use the MLS, so if you edit the MLS instead, it should work.
Another thing worth noting is that the MLS is required to have 24 teams in order for the North American continental cups to run.
In your original file, changing the rules to affect the MLS and then increasing to 24 teams should allow the cups to run.
Thank you Zachary. I appreciate the info on this issue. What I don't want to do is keep the MLS as it's also hardcoded with draft and so many other things. I want to make an English-like system in the US. But it does help me figure out where to make updates and I'll report back here when I do.
I know it's a hard ask but is there a way to get a list of what is hard coded in regards to the MLS? I think it will save considerable time for us US DB editors to be able to work around things like that and better enjoy the game.
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1 hour ago, nielsoncp said:
Sorry Digi. :/ Do you want to post your main file and I'll take a look? Also, FYI (since this is now our group thread) St. Louis City is now hardcoded MLS - it disappears in the second season from non-MLS divisions.
Yeah I had seen STL was hardcoded in some previous tests. Here are my two files. But with MLS inactive and one with it not extinct as named in the files
FM23_FirstImport_MLSInactiveNotExtinct.fmf FM23_FirstImport_MLSInactive.fmf
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Ugh. I made MLS inactive but it's still not showing the NACL in my main DB. I even tried playing around with the extinct flag but both ways it won't show. I need to see if there's something else.
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5 minutes ago, nielsoncp said:
Digi, I just tried the trick (make MLS an inactive competition) with your database, and the continental competitions appeared in game. (See attached file.) So, SI, it has something to do with the way MLS is coded in game. Hopefully this helps!
We might be going somewhere. I loaded that file up as well and also verifying my main DB with that change and hopefully it's good. With the DB you updated of mine, I see NACL and doing a holiday now while I wait for other to verify. But this might be it
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35 minutes ago, nielsoncp said:
Right now it (my custom concacaf champions league setup) appears in game for me. I'll try simming forward and see if there's a CTD issue.
What is custom about it?
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I'd be willing to bet it has something to do with MLS hardcoding as I made it extinct in my DB.
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I certainly hope that day comes but I think it won't be for a long time, unfortunately.
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Yeah it's upsetting for sure. I want to play my US DB and everytime I get past a hurdle, something random like this shows up. I think I'm done with this game unless they can show that they care about things outside of Europe. I've offered to help since I'm a developer myself in whatever way they want and my request has fallen on silent ears. I legit think that they don't care about the CONCACAF region as there aren't many FM players who care about it. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it but so far it's one thing after another.
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4 hours ago, omarsorto6 said:
Wow and I was going crazy going thu all mine files thinking what one of them was causing this when all along it just an another bug in the game.
Yeah I was so happy that I had my DB working but then I noticed none of the teams in USA went to NACL. I wanted to see who went to NACL then and searched for it and nothing came up. I even put in the ID for it in game and still nothing. It's like it is gone. So then I thought it was my DB so I created a new DB with one league in US and filled it with 20 teams and made all other leagues excinct and same issue. It isn't in the game. Somehow it's tied to MLS.
I'm getting real tired of trying to develop in US when so many things are screwy about it.
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So I didn't get this error when I was testing my DB today so I went to see what you did compared to me and when I attempt to verify either of these files, I get different results than you do. The "Test League.fmf" verified fine for me but the "USA - 10 Tiers - CEUD mess around.fmf" gives me a different error. Not sure if that helps at all but thought I'd let you know.
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Not much of a help but some info. This was reported the day the game launched and still awaiting a fix sadly. Seems to only be for Canada, USA and a few other countries. They are working on it but have been pretty quiet about it lately. Sorry not much of a help but I'm in the same boat with my USA database and hoping that the winter update fixes it.
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Yeah I can confirm this doesn't fix this as well.
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3 hours ago, Krudley83 said:
@Digijustin - You're a hero. I've literally spent a few days going "what the **** am I doing wrong" - great to see a thread on this. I have a carbon copy of your issues and have tried exactly the same thigns as you between basic and advanced.
I'll hang fire for the devs - appreciate the fact this is on the table and being looked at!
Yeah it's a tough one as with Basic Rules, it will "work" but I'm not confident in knowing if there are issues down the line. I know a few US DB's have been already released with it in there and while they look great, I just don't know how the issue stands up. Hopefully it's fixed soon so we can get on with our gameplay.
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23 hours ago, Neil Brock said:
We believe it's an issue specific to North American - The North American rule group was being disabled due to a requirement of 24 MLS teams but the competitions were still being created without fixture rules. This is something we're looking at internally with the aim of providing a fix in a future update, but is something with wide-ranging potential knock-ons, so needs to be thoroughly checked internally first..
Thank you for the update on this @Neil Brock. Makes sense that it has wide ramifications but I'm glad to know it's getting proper attention.
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Any updates on this @Jimmy Wong or @Zachary Whyte?
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So I understand that you guys are busy but it's been since launch day that I reported this and as a fellow developer, I would think that changing the text of an error message would be easy. I get it that this isn't a top priority but what are the priorities? There have been 2 updates since I reported this one and it's still here.
I check back every so often on my other reported bugs to see when I can start playing the game I want but find it interesting that this isn't fixed yet. I'm obviously not privied to your development environment but in every program I've ever worked in, this is just a string that needs to be updated. I'm sure it's a localized string as well but it's just a redirect so you can even use a bit.ly link
I know I sound petty complaining about a broken link in a crash log message but I feel if you aren't taking this seriously, how can I expect you to take other bugs seriously?
I do enjoy this game but I want to play with my DB and it's been 40+ days now and I'm still waiting. Every day that goes by is a day I grow further away from playing the game I loved.
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21 hours ago, nielsoncp said:
Hi SI Friends,
I have a video of the bug here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IPVlG3RDRjGaHNRpHQ3YTZoJz_E4S0qQ/view?usp=sharing. I'll also attach the editor file, in case it is specific to this database (it is ported over from FM22, so that may be part of the issue.)
This is why the PGE should be a part of the beta I feel. I get that bugs like this slip through the cracks but to have this released as good like this doesn't make sense. Every day the issues in the PGE that go unfixed just push me further and further from playing this game.
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I actually submitted a bug for that FM21 link (that actually goes to a site I don't think SI owns anymore) but I find it interesting that they weren't able to fix it with the last fix.
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Interesting @V2023. I read through that thread and got an idea. I scrapped all the leagues in USA and created 2 to test and added only 2 new teams that I created to each. So basically 4 teams in total in USA.
I created 2 versions of the DB, Basic and Advanced.
The Basic one passes testing but upon starting a new save, I get the dreaded popup about "Empty Discipline Rules" again. But the save will still start but I'm not sure how it'll last.
The Advanced one failed on validation the same as already reported and doesn't validate.
None of the teams have any reserve teams and there are no reserve leagues. I was hopeful that this would be the fix for me but I don't think it is.
I'm hoping SI is working on this and comes out with a fix soon. Game isn't playable at the moment and that sucks.
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Custom USA Database causes NACL to Disappear
in Pre-Game and In-Game Editor
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So I just saw latest release and see this bug wasn't fixed. Are you all done with the patching of FM23 and I should just expect this one to not be fixed?