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I think it also depends where you start your club. I start in Denmark, 2nd division sometimes, try to get promoted, then try to win the league there. After that, turn down better jobs to try to win the Champions league with my Danish club. The latter, very hard (Pre FM24). Im currently MK Dons and already in Championship after 2 seasons, sitting top, so can see there why some people find this one easy

Thats not the case. Thats to do with the quality of club you attract (if unemployed) and the respect of the players. If you had lowest badges (which you will upgrade to over time) and reputation of a lower league footballer, that will only affect your relationship with players initially.

I think it being ´too easy´at the moment is to do with the subs and squad building issues. I think after the patch drops, fixing them niggling issues will resolve that. Thats what im hoping anyway.

Just had a player say to me he wants to explore his options at the end of his contract who has a determined personality. I tried to convince him to stay, but said he still wanted to explore his options. Player walked away from the conversation Ángry´. Now he has pre-concerns how i treated him. Trying to convince someone to stay shouldnt have that sort of reaction. This is not how things work out in real life. If I told my boss i wanted to leave and he tried to convince me to stay, I wouldnt walk away from the conversation angry. I would say, "thanks but I´ve made up my mind". I would actually be a little pleased he wanted me to stay, regardless if it was for their financial gain. If anything, I would be a little annoyed if they just didnt bother with me.

Im really surprised someone like RDF isn’t even involved in alpha testing? (Unless he is and I don’t know). This is a guy that goes deep into tactics! If he isn’t… then why SI? There are a lot of streamers who play and explain the game really well. And without them, a lot of players would never understand how FM translates players and styles in tactics.

Out of curiosity, has anyone seen examples of the 2000 new AI responses? I thought the conversations would be fleshed out more. Make it easier to justify your decisions. It would be nice if they have a percentage of positive reaction with each response. Even players being outright angry with you should be a rare occurance also, unless it was something major. I doubt 90% of footballers would react in such a way with their manager, considering that’s the boss they are reacting to. Every disagreement with the player should be able to come to some form of outcome or agreement for both player and manager, not just an angry player with negative moral.

So why am i not in their list? Thats what im saying, if its only a handful of players, why isn't is 1000 or even 10,000 players? They would all be happy to pay for the game anyway. It doesnt even have to be free! I spotted issues from the off. Maybe its because i play the game so much, you get that ´feel´. Plus i do the usual compare the issues from previous edition and see if its fixed. SI, put me on your list for FM25 please

I dont think that is even enough time. Due to some platforms requiring time to approve their patches, as previously stated by Miles. I reckon, just ditch the whole early access, have SI check who plays FM the most hours, contact said users, and let them have the early access, ALOT earlier. I'm sure them users would jump at the chance.

Thats when they could say "Apologies, we cannot release all the fixes as promised, due to half our coding team being sick, but because we asked them when they´re coming back, the patch will be released on ***" Anyway, lets hope its before Christmas

Thats in regard to the data updates. Turkish and French players being updated

Thats is why if a target date is going to be missed, communication gets involved says "sorry guys, a unforseen situation has arisen and we have to delay". Its like when a delivery is late. You get updated by your supplier. But lets not get into it.... AGAIN!

Are there any patch notes? Edit: Found them... Why don´t SI just give us a date of the next patch instead of saying ´near future target date¨... who even says that? I would love to say that to my boss when im off sick and hes asking when im back...

Have you read Miles post? They have admitted the game came out with issues. No point in trying to say it may not have. Everyone plays the game differently. Some people just love the buzz of being undefeated and smashing teams! They wouldnt complain about it being too easy if they are enjoying it. Others notice the issues because they go 'deep' into FM, me being one of them as Ive played the games since 1995. Hopefully by Christmas its fully patched up and then we can all play long-term saves without issue!!

I did... that is why i wanted clarity.

"Before we give you that information though, I also need to explain that the days of us being able to release updates a few hours after we’ve merged the last bit of code are long gone. Many of the platforms that we are on have “submission processes” where the platform tests what they have been sent before allowing it on their platform – something that is much better for the consumer in the bigger picture of things." - Miles Jacobson So do i understand this correctly? Are patches for the PC being delayed until they are available for all platforms? Would just like clarity on that please.

Maybe for another release, we can have a little video of the QA team. Have a Q & A and get an insight into what they experience and to why sometimes things get overlooked or missed. Also give us an insight into the major bugs they have come across during testing and resolved.

I personally would hold off a long-term save. Play a season or 2 just to get the feel for it. Even experiment with tactics with different teams, so you get the feel of the engine.

You are a very angry person. Crazy person? Insignificant needs? Make my own fun? Im currently sitting on a mountain in Barcelona replying to you with a big smile on my face, because im enjoying the cool evening and have a spare few minutes to reply to you. Anyway, stay happy.

How many bugs have you experienced or posted? You´ve said all games have bugs... surely you must've reported some FM has? Are you telling me you have a bug-free version of FM none of us have?

Anyway this thread is about the AI lacking. Quite obviously it is. Why are you guys are trying to deflect the truth. Blaming the end-user for not challenging themselves enough! Might as well get pencil and paper and play old school fantasy football and make results for yourself... but we have this technology thats use 1´s and 0´s so we shouldnt need to do that anymore Im not here for back and forwards, just opinions. But I dislike the fact that the person who bought a product that promises much, gets the blame, for the product not fulfilling the promise!

What are you guys on about!? Seriously. Im defending the end-user. Your defending "the man". And my analogy was about the characteristics of the said person, I wasnt talking about the products!!! And I would complain about the coffee and if the second cup wasnt good, i would request a refund. Im just waiting for my second cup to be served now Out of curiosity, how many bugs you posted?

You and Ngoc must´ve been made in the same test tube. Anyway nice not knowing you

These were replies to another person who was blaming the end-user. Don´t know why your directing this at me. Anyway you must obviously watch a crappy movies but sit there and think, na i'll change the story in my head? Do you buy a coffee and it tastes like crap, but instead of telling the server, but you convince yourself it tastes nice? I think this is the world i live in... everyone lives in a fantasy! There was a time you get what you paid for!

Ok. Lets talk bugs then. Should i point out every bug that has not been fixed in the last few versions of FM? Should I point out every new feature they have added whilst still not fixing said bugs? Im not oblivious! I know every piece of software have bugs. But if your game releases anually and still the same bugs are popping up.... isnt it time to question something. There are still bugs in FM22, but SI dont support it anymore. Still bugs in FM23, but SI dont support it anymore. Them same bugs are in FM24! To make a bold claim that this is the "most polished version of FM", when in its current state, it obviously is not, shows there is a disconnect with Miles sees and what the end-user sees. I think the most polished version was FM22 last patch up. Think that was the one i enjoyed the most. It had its flaws, but we accepted it, thinking the next version would improve or fix it. 2 versions later......

This is why I bought the game to have a great personal experience of being a virtual football manager. To be challenged against the great teams like Barcelona and Man Citys. I religiously watch football. English, French, German, Spanish even Danish football on my dodgy channels. Ive played the game since 95-96. It was a fantastic game at the time when all i had was a text prompt telling me what is going on. Every year improvements were done to the game where its at a point, these improvements are being detrimental to the game. Its like they are adding too many features to justify a new game instead of just updating it. Look at No Mans Sky.... released a buggy mess in 2016 and even until now, they are updating it. Free of charge! Games used to come out with an odd patch or 2 to resolve a bug that snuck through QA. Now games are being released full of bugs. Considering FM gets a yearly release, Its not right that there are 'planned patches' for that current release. A game should be released when its ready!