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10 minutes ago, andu1 said:
It seems there is an issue with 4-4-2. All AI teams in my save that play a 442 have the most goals conceded...
There's no cover in the midfield CMs should be DMs
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3 minutes ago, forameuss said:
That's quite a come-down from "the worst in FM" to "the worst out of 3 editions".
Even as the goalposts have disappeared down the pitch, I'm not even sure that holds much weight. SI have had some pretty rocky beta releases with a lot of vitriol getting fired around. This one has been pretty smooth-sailing, and outside of some stuff they're looking at, the game is in a pretty decent state for one that hasn't reached it's "official" release yet. Does it mean it's perfect? Absolutely not. But expecting that would just be eternal misery.
If you can point to where I "dictated how someone should feel about the game" then I'll apologise for it. Good luck with that.
Problem with that argument is that's it's usually in response to someone doing exactly the same. They're welcome to think whatever outlandish stuff they want, just like anyone else is welcome to think it's lunacy.
QuoteThis beta is probably the worst I've seen on FM.
He literally said it's probably the worst FM he's seen, and you said it was a stretch...
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5 minutes ago, forameuss said:
To relate it to the (frankly ridiculous) claim that this is the worst beta they've ever had, I was just realising how few moon-howler type threads we've had this year that get locked when someone thinks that their poorly-thought-through feedback deserves their own thread.
There's definitely subjective aspects to the game, but it would be massively, MASSIVELY stretching it to suggest that this is anywhere close to the worst version of FM there's been. The only reason I can think of for something like that is just angry hyperbole.
To be fair, all of the complaints made by the user have already been expressed by others in the feedback thread. While I may not necessarily agree with everything that has been said, it is important to acknowledge that everyone's opinion matters and it is not appropriate to dictate how someone should feel about the game based on your own personal experience. However, it would have been more appropriate for the user to share their thoughts in the feedback thread rather than creating a separate post.
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4 minutes ago, Razal said:
Can't speak for everyone, But I find the game too easy to a level that I don't even enjoy playing it anymore. There is no reward in grinding as you can overachiever with the default gegen press tactic
When you purchase the editor, you can set all of your player's attributes to 1.
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4 hours ago, Novem9 said:
Is there at least one person in the world who needs in-game Twitter? But this function probably wastes resources when generating new days?
I enjoy it. It adds context and immersion to a glorified spreadsheet. Besides as a LLM who don’t exploit the scouting, you get players recommended to you by random fans and news sites that you otherwise would probably never shortlist.
Besides, it is easily enough to ignore and I’m sure it adds nothing to processing speed.
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10 minutes ago, w3t said:
Matches are a bit dull. Way too much passing in the back because the other team is not pressing (intelligently) enough and exposing themselves. It feels like any teams can get 90% pass completion in a match on a good day.
Not a single team in the top leagues has under 84% pass completion. That is highly unrealistic:
In my LLM save imported from FM 23, my center back went from 66% in FM23 to 86% passing in FM24. and no, it wasn't from clearances/hoof ball because we ranked one of the poorest in the league from clearing the ball, as that wasn't a part of our tactic.
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16 minutes ago, Pasonen said:
Okay. Thats not good.. It could have big impact on development and happines?
Yes, I think there is a trickle-down effect. The lack of substitutes might also impact goals as players may have poor conditioning late in the game and going into the next game. I also believe that people initially claimed that AI transfers were still broken because newly signed players were not playing any games. That's obviously true if teams aren't using subs. Although the problem seems more apparent with leagues running full detailed sims.
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4 minutes ago, Pasonen said:
I'm sorry have to link this here too. Fulham lost 8-0 and didn't make a single sub ;D AI vs AI game. Die!!
After loading my level 10 save from FM23, I noticed that teams rarely substitute players. When they do, it's usually only one player at the very end of the game.
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22 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:
Yes it does it adds I'd rather have a ME that plays like and looks like a game of football than one that is frustrating to watch as it is artificially trying to recreate real life stats.
But hey let's just respect other people's opinions...
As I mentioned earlier, I do not have an interest in debates that pit one group against another. I suggest that you follow your own advice about respecting the opinions of others.
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3 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:
Oh you are one of those stat obsessed people who want a match engine that just creates life like stats rather than looks like football.
Personally I'd rather have an ME that actually resembles football as I'm not playing Statman Manager 24, I'm playing football manager 24...
Ok. That adds nothing to the conversation. I have no interest in getting into tribalism debates.
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8 minutes ago, Pasonen said:
Yeah.. touching Finishing is a shortcut. No shortcuts please.
Also, the AI using a flat 4-4-2 formation is consistently struggling on defense; the default should be a 4-4-2 with 2 defensive midfielders.
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Yes, I enjoy role-playing, but it could be improved logically and with more gameplay mechanics.
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42 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:
And what will happen is they NERF finishing and everyone has to play super aggressive tactics just to score having multiple easy chances missed per game.
Happens literally every beta cycle.
I hope they ignore it personally as the ME is great this year.
They should prioritize the accuracy of the match engine over appearance and fix it properly. Finishing doesn't have anything to do with what I pointed out.
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4 hours ago, kiwityke1983 said:
Someone ran the maths previously and it was 0.14 goals per game more. Which is essentially nothing.
Can't say I've experienced these weird high scoring games often. I've had 2 in nearly two seasons.
The sim test was designed for sim games, not to mimic the user's experience. The high-scoring game post in this thread referred to the user's experience rather than sim games. Although attacking tactics are still overpowered, they also give up goals, which is why players are seeing high-scoring games. In reality, this playstyle, particularly with inferior players, should not only be vulnerable to defensive exploits but also result in the loss of possessions and inaccurate passes. However, this is not happening outside of defensive holes.
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59 minutes ago, nb9 said:
This is absolute nonsense. It is objectively more difficult to achieve anything in the game if you are playing defensive systems.
You can build clubs over years playing a defensive system buying players tailored to that way of playing, then switch to the standard boring gegenpress attacking style with no effort and get much better results. Over and over again.
Go and look in the custom tactics forum just for starters, almost all the most successful tactics play the same way regardless of perssonel. To suggest it's to do with not having the right players is disingenious.
The match engine needs to encourage more variety in playstyle, that is a fact.
This changed in FM23.
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On 06/10/2023 at 11:08, 04texag said:
Somehow, I missed this update to chatgpt for it using web browser access.
Keeping that in mind, how would you give chatgpt visibility to a team's starting tactic on FM. Is there a way to export your tactic to a web browser that chatgpt could then view it? Other than pasting an image in a forum or something?
The image function just went live for my account.
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On 16/10/2023 at 06:50, Dagenham_Dave said:
I was having a nostalgic look back at the feature reveals from some of the older FM's, and for some of them, it was quite startling how little differences there was or what minor new features were actually added. People whined the building down last year with the FM23 feature reveal, even though a few genuinely new features were added in.
Looking back at the FM16 feature reveal for example, and the third big headline feature was being able to customise your manager's avatar. (and the first two were 'create a club' and 'fantasy draft', neither of which added anything to the core single player mode). People would be going NUTS if that was a major feature reveal nowadays.
So, the question is, have we now become so obsessed with the concept of 'new features' in a yearly game cycle that unless the wheel is re-invented, the new game is always going to fall short? Can't we just accept that evolution is sometimes more important than revolution? I think this also puts so much pressure on SI to come up with new stuff every year, sometimes to the detriment of the game. Nobody asked for, or even needed a 'manager timeline', but the intense pressure to add something different, something new must be insane in the current entitled generation.
SI got a bit of a free pass this year with the news FM25 is going to be a whole new game, and kudos to them for still putting in some killer new features for this year's game.
Personally, I would be happy if SI updated the database and ironed out some of the things that needed improved upon, and only putting shiny new features in when they are 100% ready. How often do we see a new feature shoehorned in when it's clearly not finished. Squad planner anyone? Data hub?
You do it by setting a foundation and building upon it. Some new features this year isn’t fully integrated but I personally wouldn’t want to wait until it’s fully integrated because that could take years and some of the concept they would have been working on might become outdated. As long as everything works as intended, setting foundation to build upon new features is fine for a yearly release game.
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46 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:
You literally called my take tired...
I believe the main issue is that the take you presented wasn't entirely your own. YouTubers expressed their thoughts on the matter, and then everyone else followed suit. The problem with your statement was that it didn't come across as an opinion, so I wasn't trying to attack you personally. You simply made a claim, but I digress.
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On 14/10/2023 at 22:23, kiwityke1983 said:
It's genuinely useless and actually an annoyance for me when I get messages to transfer list a star player because he's not listed on my squad planner.
Mainly because my only use for the squad depth chart was when I first took over a side and I wanted to see what formation we could use with the players at my disposal.
After that I just knew my squad so had no need for a page telling me I needed to sign a leftback.
You literally can't do that now as you are forced to pick a tactic before you can see your squad depth.
So no N t a tired take just my honest opinion on a genuinely useless feature for me.
I completely understand your point, and I think that integrating that view back into it is a great idea. However, I would like to suggest that saying it is useless as a general statement might not be entirely accurate. I respect your personal opinion on this matter, but perhaps we can find a way to appreciate the value of different perspectives.
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5 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:
I'd argue the last 5 years has just seen old features repackaged as new features and in many cases they are worse than the old features.
The squad planner is a massive downgrade usefulness wise than the squad depth page that had the option to show you every position on the pitch regardless of tactics.
The club culture was an add on to board confidence and in theory was a game changer. In practice it's totally immersion breaking as lots of the fan feedback is nonsensical, such as I beat Sheff Weds 7-0 away as Barnsley. The fans gave the Game a D rating as they were disappointed I didn't play my reserve leftback.
You can just ignore the club's actual culture too because they'll just change it to whatever style of football you play within a season anyway.
Genuinely struggle to remember a genuine new feature in the past 5 seasons to be honest.
Depends on how you play the game. The DOF doesn't interact with the old squad depth page...I get some people flat-out ignore the DOF and also scout manually, but the squad planner feature not being useful is a tired, hot take. It is useful for people who actually use it.
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Here is a conversation after using the new data analysis feature:
https://chat.openai.com/share/9df83459-0ee3-4d59-b881-7484fabf986b
This is from an FC United of Manchester save.
I ended up staggering the CM & DM (CM to left & DM to right) and switching the RW to support. Switched the 2 DC to regular Centerbacks and opted for a advanced Forward over the poacher.
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26 minutes ago, 04texag said:
Somehow, I missed this update to chatgpt for it using web browser access.
Keeping that in mind, how would you give chatgpt visibility to a team's starting tactic on FM. Is there a way to export your tactic to a web browser that chatgpt could then view it? Other than pasting an image in a forum or something?
They also just included a feature that let it now read images. I haven’t tried it as it is not fully rolled out so I am not sure how well that would work.
Other than that, you probably could just use a prompt and include your setup.
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1 hour ago, XaW said:
That's an improvement, but seeing how we only months ago got suggested a neo nazi to be a hero here (which no one outside the neo nazi community would ever think) it shows that you still can't trust the responses.
Agree, it’s a technology that’s improving everyday whether it’s from users creating prompts, third party plugins or integrated features. A few months ago seems like a short amount of time but GPT3.5 is worthless compared to GPT4 and I don’t think 4 is free to public yet. A lot of the issues raised have been addressed by the things that I mentioned or is currently i process of addressing.
They recently added the ability to insert images to analyze and people are already using it to to get code for UI. Its not something to rely on but just like I said with the tactics, it’s a good starting point.
When it comes to FM integration (if we are having that conversation) I think the the main issue is an ethics issue and not really the tech or costs. Businesses, large and small have already integrated this technology and if SI would to include a chat bot assistant, the data it would pull from would be from SI itself.
The problem is that people will always try to break something and last thing SI need is a screen shot going viral of a conversation in the game that spits out something discriminatory.
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5 hours ago, Rashidi said:
Funny thing about chatGPT even the guys who created it don’t know how the neural network actually works. They know there are billions of calculations happening but can they say whether it’s heading in the right direction, no.
Some of those ChatGPT developers left to set up Antropic, their AI tool is a more creative version called Claude. Their interviews are fun.
Having used chatGPT extensively, I can say without hesitation that it’s just a glorious “auto-complete” tool that digs through information on the web which may not always be correct.
It’s fantastic for research if you are good at prompting it, ultimately though a subject matter expert has to authenticate and verify the answers. It is self learning, based on information that may or may not be right. And even researchers don’t even know how it ticks, it’s all trial and error. Like any tool in the hands of an idiot it’s an idiot.
I agree 100%
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FM24 Early Access Official Feedback Thread
in Football Manager General Discussion
Posted · Edited by Mars_Blackmon
Unfortunately, it is essential if you play MLS. AI Roster management is still a mess when it comes to retaining youth.
B/II teams will be filled with grey players, and players from the team's academy will be released into the lower leagues.
There is literally no bridge between the academy and to reserve...
Oh, and don't forget about the drafted prospects or the players that actually get signed from the academy. If they aren't good enough for the first team, they are released instead of moved to the B/II team...
PS.
Don't bother asking me to post in the bug forum. I've been raising this issue for almost 10 years, and half of those were on the beta team...