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Hello, I recently bought FM23 on sale, and I started a save with Wolves. I started off with a 433, but changed to a 4222 after we went on a bad run of form and we couldn't create nor defend. I still want to use the 433 because I think the 4222 is very unsustainable.
 
How do I improve in terms of instructions? I'm trying to get the best combination of my midfield with Ruben Neves and Matheus Nunes while trying to extract something out of Pablo Sarabia.

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It doesn't seem too bad but the things that stand out to me are:

- You're plan seems to be to win the ball deep and then boot the ball upfield for runners. I don't know how you are doing for possession but my gut feeling is that you are putting pressure on your defence when the wingers can't win the ball. I'd definitely considering lowering the passing directness. If you want to have players run onto through balls you could try pass into space instead. You also don't counter attack, which feels like what you are trying to do with the instructions.

- I personally prefer my defense to be more aggressive in mid-blocks, I'd press more often.

- I don't know how you are conceding goals. It's possible that commiting so many people forward will cause you to be hit on the break. If that is the case, then I'd consider adding an extra man to help out. Either changing a WB to FB(s), or changing the B2B to a DLP(s) and making the DM a DM(d).

- don't be afraid to drop the mentality to balanced, sometimes positive can cause mistakes or rushed play.

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4 hours ago, inobob said:

How do I improve in terms of instructions?

Remove them. Remove them and try out different mentalities to learn how your teams willingness to take risks in each phase of play changes. Learn about how different roles affect how your team is playing. It will help you to understand, that making changes to the instructions will not define your style of play, it will just refine what you’ve already set up in terms of Roles and Team Mentality. 

If you are trying to refine your style by adding certain team or player instructions, ask yourself the following and find a proper answer: 

  • What do you dislike about your style?
  • What are you trying to achieve with possible changes?
  • Why do you want to make the change? 
  • Which side effects may occurs and do you like them?
  • Which Instruction does have the highest influence on what you are trying to change?

Then go to work on that specific instruction and repeat the process if you are still not happy with how your team plays. 

But I also want to give you some actual input to think about your current tactic.

Instructions you added to promote ball progression: 

  • Direct passing -> higher risk passing promotes vertical ball progression and passes into space.
  • higher tempo -> asks your players to carry out their on the ball actions more quickly which indirectly supports the ball progression in your circumstance.
  • Run at Defence ->  Asks your players to run more often with the ball and take on defenders in 1:1 situations.
  • Play through the middle -> fastest route towards the goal.
  • Throw it long -> helps your team to beat the press and skip the lines.

Instructions you added to promote a more considered build up: 

  • Play out of Defence -> Ask your defensive players to delay the build up by only playing safe passes out from the back.
  • Work ball into box -> asks your team to play more considered and take their time to create higher quality opportunities.
  • distribute to fullbacks -> helps your goalie to find a safe passing option. 

What I am trying to tell you is that some of your instructions are very contradicting and there is no clear direction of how you are trying to set up your team. I understand, that every instruction does sound like you want to make an adjustment, but in reality they all come with a trade off. There is no good or bad instruction. There are just some that suit your style of play and some that don’t.

Try to move through the process I’ve described above and if you are not 100% sure of how certain instructions do affect your play, then just try them out. Make an extreme adjustment and see what changes.

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5 hours ago, inobob said:

Hello, I recently bought FM23 on sale, and I started a save with Wolves. I started off with a 433, but changed to a 4222 after we went on a bad run of form and we couldn't create nor defend. I still want to use the 433 because I think the 4222 is very unsustainable.
 
How do I improve in terms of instructions? I'm trying to get the best combination of my midfield with Ruben Neves and Matheus Nunes while trying to extract something out of Pablo Sarabia.

Screenshot 2023-05-25 021301.png

 

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As already covered, you don't need to have every TI ticked, start off with a few then add more if needed as you play the games

Onto the roles, it starts out really nice with the back 4 and DM then midfield onwards looks like a P&P attempt. A CM(A) will basically look to get into the box as soon as possible, along with the two IFs and the AF will already will already be looking to get onto the end of chances

Thanks for linking up my thread @Cloud9, have a read of that @inobob, you really don't need 4 of 5 players on Attack, that will help in keeping things solid and create good goal scoring chances 

 

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