Raptor Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 As per the outcome of the second round vote, this is the last-ever CMS challenge. ************************************************************************************************ You are a country boy. Raised in a village or town amidst the fields of your country, you show an ability to manage a football team at an early age. One day, your local side calls you and asks you to manage them, thus launching a career that will see you reach as far as you can go. Stage One- The start of your career. You start out at your local side in a town or village of fewer than 25,000. (You may edit in a side from the lowest league in your country of choice.) Here, you can only sign players and staff of your nationality. You are to stay here until you reach the League, (i.e. the Third Division or German Second Division or Serie C1A) and avoid relegation for one season. Stage 2- The Lights grow brighter. Having become a local legend by establishing your local side in the League, it’s time to move on. Go to a small city of population between 25,000 and 100,000 in your country and take a team from that city to the second highest division and stay up for a year. You must bring a player and a staff member from your local side with you to this club. You are also only allowed to sign players of the nationality of the country. Stage 3- The Bright Lights of the Big City. Having become a legend in your local town and a hero in the provincial city, now you head on to the big city of 100,000- 1,000000 in the country you reside in. You’re to take a side in this city and win the top division. You’re to only use players of the country you reside in to win the title. You must also bring a staff member from your local and provincial sides with you to the job. The World Stage. Having become the top man in your country, it’s time to head to a different country. You are to head to one of the great cities of the world (London, Berlin, Paris, Glasgow, Rome, Milan, Moscow, Madrid, Barcelona, Paris, Athens, and Amsterdam) and take a team from that city and win the Champion’s Cup or UEFA Cup. You must bring in three staff, one each from your previous clubs, but the player restrictions no longer apply. The final Mountain. By now, having conquered the world stage and become famous all over the world. It’s time to head back to your home country. Take the national side and depending on the size and footballing talent, aim to win or reach the knockout stages of both the World Cup and Euro championship. ************************************************************************************************ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 As per the outcome of the second round vote, this is the last-ever CMS challenge. ************************************************************************************************ You are a country boy. Raised in a village or town amidst the fields of your country, you show an ability to manage a football team at an early age. One day, your local side calls you and asks you to manage them, thus launching a career that will see you reach as far as you can go. Stage One- The start of your career. You start out at your local side in a town or village of fewer than 25,000. (You may edit in a side from the lowest league in your country of choice.) Here, you can only sign players and staff of your nationality. You are to stay here until you reach the League, (i.e. the Third Division or German Second Division or Serie C1A) and avoid relegation for one season. Stage 2- The Lights grow brighter. Having become a local legend by establishing your local side in the League, it’s time to move on. Go to a small city of population between 25,000 and 100,000 in your country and take a team from that city to the second highest division and stay up for a year. You must bring a player and a staff member from your local side with you to this club. You are also only allowed to sign players of the nationality of the country. Stage 3- The Bright Lights of the Big City. Having become a legend in your local town and a hero in the provincial city, now you head on to the big city of 100,000- 1,000000 in the country you reside in. You’re to take a side in this city and win the top division. You’re to only use players of the country you reside in to win the title. You must also bring a staff member from your local and provincial sides with you to the job. The World Stage. Having become the top man in your country, it’s time to head to a different country. You are to head to one of the great cities of the world (London, Berlin, Paris, Glasgow, Rome, Milan, Moscow, Madrid, Barcelona, Paris, Athens, and Amsterdam) and take a team from that city and win the Champion’s Cup or UEFA Cup. You must bring in three staff, one each from your previous clubs, but the player restrictions no longer apply. The final Mountain. By now, having conquered the world stage and become famous all over the world. It’s time to head back to your home country. Take the national side and depending on the size and footballing talent, aim to win or reach the knockout stages of both the World Cup and Euro championship. ************************************************************************************************ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Congratulations Bry. I might have a wee go at this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBev Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Well done EH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 congrats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I'm not sure how accurate it is, but this site has the populations of towns and cities in different countries around the world. Hopefully that will help anyone wanting to play in a strange foreign land It may have a few pop-ups though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Cheers for the congrats guys. Nice website Euan! As for the log, this will be the space for it. Just list yourself in this thread and a link and I'll read it and write a short summary and progress report for it in here. Also, any questions and clarifications should be asked here. Good luck to all that try this challenge! Edinburgh is now be a "world city." playable only in the fourth stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierroth Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Educated Hick: Also, any questions and clarifications should be asked here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You got that right. 1) The goals sound easy enough for a large league (England, Spain, Italy, etc.) but what about the smaller leagues such as, let's say, Ireland? Would I be right in assuming for those 2-division leagues that the objectives would be something like: - Promote team from >25,000 city to Premier and stay up. - Promote team from 25,000-100,000 city to Premier and stay up. - Win Premier with 100,000-1,000,000 city. 2) Do you need to leave the team as soon as you achieve the objective or can you stay on if a job hasn't opened up yet? That should be enough info to allow me to start my attempt. *smirks* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Pieroth, you're a smart-ass. I have given some thought to 2-divsion leagues and your outline seems reasonable enough for 2 divsion leagues. So, your plan will be implemented for 2 divsion leagues. As for the "leave or stay" I figure you may as well stay one season longer after achieving the goal which will give you time to look for a job. You must have gone on by the time the following season ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierroth Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Actually, most people call me a pervert and not a smart-ass (both of which are so wrong) but I won't complain. This time. Thanks for the clarifying and such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrplos Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 As I haven't been paying attention lately, why is this the last ever challenge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Soccer Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 No doubt in my mind that this challenge would win!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terk Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carrplos: As I haven't been paying attention lately, why is this the last ever challenge? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> this is the last CM Challenge because the next one will be the first FM Challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 If we decide to do the challenge in a three league country, would it be: - Small team from Div 3 to Div 2 - Medium team from Div 2 to Div 1 - Big team just win Div 1 Or would we have to get the big team promoted from div 2 to div 1, then win div 1? If you know what I mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmundo Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 i mite have ago at this chalenge shame i cant start of with halifax(my local team) they have over 25000 people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Euan, follow the challenge guidelines. take the small town to the hird division and stay up. Then take the medium city to the second divsion and stick. Then take the large city, make it to the top divsion and win the top divsion. Here's the key thing to note about about this challenge. I haven't given you a starting divsion for any of the stages. So, once you get your local side to the League, then you can either go to a city that meets the requirements in eithier the third divsion or lower. Basically, you can go to any city that meets the population parameters and is at least one divsion lower than the goal trying to be achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 And for anyone attempting this challenge, pleease put "CLC Challenge" in the story title so I know its a challenge and can give you proper credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmundo Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 does anyone know any town under 25k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqin Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I have a question. There are three divisions/leagues in Denmark, but you can't start lower than the third best. So, is it something like: Second Division -> First Division First Division -> SuperLeague SuperLeague -> Champion ???? Also, I am not sure there are any teams there with less than 25,000 people in the area. And you expect us to go from a small league to a big one? If I go to London... do I hav to take a top team or could I take over a small team from the city? Because I'd never get from even FC Copenhagen to Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqin Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Oh... and our Premier was won by a team from a town with 5000 people a few years ago. Even if it is just 20 minutes from Copenhagen... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Jesper- your idea for Denmark is fine. See Pieroth's two divsion plan for quidance. As for the wold city stage- you have to take whatever job you can get in the city. Then take said team to CL glory. I've been flipping through the CM database and checking population figures on the internet and I've coming to the conclusion that there are few towns with a football team in the game with population under 25,000. So I'm making an ajustment to the figures. 1. Under 100,000 II-100000-500000 III- 500000-1000000 Rember, for the first stage, the smaller the better. I hope this opens up some choices for ppl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantonaisgod Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Well Done EH, great challenge in prospect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmundo Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 ah thanxs eh i mite start this chalenge now can be halifax (my local team)jus wonderin for 3rd stage do i have to go abroad or can i jus stay in england and go to a london club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmundo Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 *er i ment to put for the world stage do i have to go abroad or stay in england Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I just checked the census report for Halifax and they're a stage 2 city. You'll have to start with someone else. And yes, you have to move abroad for the fourth stage. I'm not making exceptions on that. I just saw that Manchester and Liverpool have a shade under 500,000. They'll be counted as Stage 3 cities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 After discussion and consultation and checking population data, I have decided to revise the population parameters one final time. The challenge is now set in stone. No further changes will be made to any of the stages. Stage 1- Cities under 100K Stage 2 100K-400K Stage 3 400K or higher (World cities not elgible for this or any preceding stage) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Awwwwwwww, it's sooo unfair that you keep changing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terk Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Bryan, my challenge attempt can be found here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Cheers Terk. I'll post the challenge log tomorrow when I post my challenge story and my Korean story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miik23 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I know there has been a lot of questions but one more. Are you allowed to move country between stage 1 and 2 or stage 2 and 3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miik23 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I see now that you can't between 2 and 3 and I guess the idea of the challenge is to stay in the country you start in. Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Challenge Log Entry number one: Azmundo: Brighouse Town. Just started. Brighouse Town Emperor J: Mellerud Sweden- Seems to be doing ok in his first thirteen games. Mellerud Terk: Accrngton Stanley. “Ian Rush advertisement†Accrington Stanley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmundo Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 urm eh am not brighouse town dat was jsu the start i started wid halifax cos that sight wat euan posted said it only had 94 800 people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone the Magazine Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Congrats, ive been a bit pre-occupied and busy with this and that so i may not be able to start this straight away but will endevour to make some time to give it a go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Cheers Tyrone. Azmundo- Will correct it in the next edition of the challenge log which will be updated this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz the Imp Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by azmundo: Umm...eh...I am not Brighouse Town. That was just the start. I started with Halifax because the site that Euan posted said it only had 94 800 people <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Is that what you meant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macloud Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Just need a bit of rules clarification. Can I sign players who's second nationality matches my home countries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Mac- Yes you can if they haven't been capped for their primary country. Daz- I understood his post, but I'll never see the point to SMS or text messages. Just use the phone for its intended purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Here is my go Drive Em All Out !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Educated- I didn't look close enough to discover that Castel di Sangro is C1B, so I restarted with San Marino (and edited my intro with the correct names). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Ok Mike. I'll post the updated challenge log later today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Second Entry 09/11/04 Azmundo- No progress Eperor J- Third season with Mellerud. Finished 6th in prevuous two seasons. Curreently leads Second Division with 6 games played. Terk- Has made a reasonable start with Stanley. Bazza- Doncaster. Attempting to turn Doncaster into an All-English squad. Doncaster Educated Hick- Brigg Town. Decent start. Finshed seconfd in the Conference last season. Brigg Town Faramir- San Marino. Faces a long road, but could become a legend in San Marino. San Marino Macdoud- Freucht. Nice start. Freucht Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone the Magazine Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I have started my attempt, find it here There is only one Tony Shaw! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Challenge Log- Third Entry- September 15, 2004 Bazza-Doncaster- Continues to build all English squad. Debate over which Antem to be sung at Doncaster games! Emperor J- Mellerud- Leagding the Second Division with 16 played. Educated Hick- Brigg Town. Fist in Conference halfway through 02/03 season. Faramir- San Marino- Put the club on good financial foting, but may havre alienated fans. Mcdoud- Freucht. No updates. Terk- Stanley. No updates. Tyrone the Mag- Canvey Island. Off to a good start with a nice introduction. Canvey Island Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBev Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 My attempt can be found here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBev Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I have a couple of questions for the Hick. I have chosen Scotland and I am assuming that in Phase 1 I need to get my team into Division Two and stay there for a season - correct? Also there is a restriction on the nationality of the players that I can sign. But what about players already in the team. Can I renew existing contracts for "foreign" players or do I need to let them expire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Hick Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Bob- Yes, you need to get Gretna into Divsion Two and stay up in your first season at Div 2. You need to let the contracts of your "foreign" players expire. Hope that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBev Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Thanks EH - that's quite clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 BobBev, get em out - get em out !!! What anthem you playing??? lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBev Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bazza: BobBev, get em out - get em out !!! What anthem you playing??? lol <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It sounds like "Flower of Scotland" to me Bazza Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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