TM Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Beasley interested in Gers move too bad Celtic will guzump us with a £50m move and £60k a week wages and then boast about their "magnificent worldwide scouting network" when we all know it's either who's worth a buy at Easter Road or who we are linked with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I would be happy with Beasley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibroxhero Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andy "Muzza" Murray: I would be happy with Beasley </div></BLOCKQUOTE> WAMMS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronandrews Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 yeah i like beasley myself, he's damn fast. and he's only 25 so it's a good move i'd say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gary Toner: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GingerFurball: Toner you bastard. Any chance of emailing me those files btw? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I sent them on Tuesday the email in your profile </div></BLOCKQUOTE> No worries, I'd been checking my unimail account. Got them, will try and do a bit of work on them on Tuesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Today's latest link is Bordeaux and Morocco forward Marouane Chamakh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 how much? he's always winning European football of the year, golden shoes in FM but I've never bought him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 11, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 11, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Today's latest link is Bordeaux and Morocco forward Marouane Chamakh </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Update your list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Done Players linked Summer 2007 <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Player Source Paul Konchesky Various Newspapers Steven Whittaker The Sun Robbie Neilson Daily Record David McNamee Herald Richard Wright Various Jamie Langfield The Sun Erol Bulut Was on trial Pascal Feindouno Various Roy Carroll Various Lee McCulloch Various Javad Nekounam The Times Carlos Cuellar Evening Times/The Sun Gary Naysmith Various Danny Koevermans Dutch news Petter Hansson No idea David Healy The Sun Emile Mpenza The Sun Marcil Wasilewski No Idea Steven Naismith Various Russell Anderson NOTW Alan Smith hahaha various Robbie Fowler News of the world Bosko Balaban Various Gary O'Connor The Sun Walter Pandiani Spanish News Andrea Carriaciola Ch4 website Andy Todd NOTW Claudio Pizarro Daily Record Ivan Alonso Grzegorz Rasiak Scott Sinclair DeMarcus Beasley Various Mart Poom Atiba Hutchinson Danish Newspaper Giorgos Efrem Cypriot wesbites Mika Vayrynen Various Marouane Chamakh Evening Times </pre> I'd add teams and values but I know i'd mess up the coding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TM: how much? he's always winning European football of the year, golden shoes in FM but I've never bought him </div></BLOCKQUOTE> No fee quoted but i'm guessing it'll be a fair few million which puts him out our range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 out of that, we've got Efrem I think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Aye that's about it although I expect us to sign Langfield after his stag exploits and possibly Beasley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJ Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Celtic want Naismith as well now? We better get him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Celtic want whoever we get linked with, surprised they haven't offered £20m for Beasley and they didn't offer for Pizarro (although we never really went after him) I think if we can somehow get dodgy Dave to make a bid that gets accepted, Naismith will chose us over the dark side - but I think that's very unlikely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 11, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 11, 2007 I'd take anything said by Naismith's agent with a pinch of salt to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Sunderland have supposedly bid £2.5m for Naismith but he doesn't want to move south at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronandrews Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 You gotta love celtic's scouting network.. hahaha for the life of me i cannae understand why they want naismith, they have an abundance of strikers the donkey of hesselink zurawski miller riordan beattie killen mcdonald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 11, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 11, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Sunderland have supposedly bid £2.5m for Naismith but he doesn't want to move south at this point. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Was that not just some Killie fan on FF trying to wind everyone up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gary Toner: From what I gather the debt stands at £5.9m with a £22m bank loan paid back at £1m pa for 22 years. Anyone know when the new accounts for the season passed are released? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> That's correct. In February we also reported a reduced turnover and small loss (no CL football or retail any more) of around £1.5million. The new figures will be released in or around September - not sure if they will take into account any transfer monies spent this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Glad I read that right then so I am right in saying we have £23m in the bank? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gary Toner: Glad I read that right then so I am right in saying we have £23m in the bank? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> No. That loan was recieved and used a number of years ago IIRC. As such, technically, we're around £30million in debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Ah just from the cash at hand/in bank section it lists 23 something. The new club editor is annoying Ter, you can't actually add minus numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Where are you finding that? <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> 25. ANALYSIS OF NET DEBT At Cash At 1 July Flow Acquisition 30 June 2005 2006 £’000 £’000 £’000 £’000 Cash at bank and in hand 5,609 2,425 - 8,034 Bank overdraft - ( 949 ) - ( 949 ) 5,609 1,476 - 7,085 Short term bank deposits - 15,000 - 15,000 5,609 16,476 - 22,085 Bank loan ( 22,000 ) - - ( 22,000 ) Other loan ( 1,773 ) 750 ( 250 ) ( 1,273 ) Finance Leases ( 4,984 ) 289 - ( 4,695 ) Net Debt ( 23,148 ) 17,515 ( 250 ) ( 5,883 ) </pre> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 doh... add a slash Ter.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 here I probably misinterpted it. Won't be the first time I am hopeless with numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Hmmm... I think that may be the rest of the initial JJB payment which is being held in reserve. I guess that £14.5million could be considered cash in hand but I'm really not sure. Accounts (and especially RFC accounts) are not easy to understand and it's far from being my forte. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Trying not to make a mess of the debt issue like last year. It's no easy cheers Dodgy Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 11, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 11, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The new club editor is annoying Ter, you can't actually add minus numbers </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Nothing to do with me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Think to save a few headaches I'll just set the 22m bank loan plus list £5.9m debt to other and give us a cash balance of £5.6m. Fair? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 At the end of the day, as of those accounts, we're £5.9million in debt with arguably £14.5million available to use at any time. Obviously, like last year, this is more likely to be released to the proft/loss accounts on a yearly basis though. The £22million loan was organised a number of years ago I'm sure, so has essentially been spent. We're simply starting to pay if off now. I have a meeting with someone tomorrow evening who may be able to shed some light on this. I'll try to remember to ask him for you as he's an accountant... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Thankfully I have already overrated enough players so this is the only snag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gary Toner: Thankfully I have already overrated enough players so this is the only snag </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Cheat. Your mask is slipping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Players linked Summer 2007 <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Player Source Paul Konchesky Various Newspapers Steven Whittaker The Sun Robbie Neilson Daily Record David McNamee Herald Richard Wright Various Jamie Langfield The Sun Erol Bulut Was on trial Pascal Feindouno Various Roy Carroll Various Lee McCulloch Various Javad Nekounam The Times Carlos Cuellar Evening Times/The Sun Gary Naysmith Various Danny Koevermans Dutch news Petter Hansson No idea David Healy The Sun Emile Mpenza The Sun Marcil Wasilewski No Idea Steven Naismith Various Russell Anderson NOTW Alan Smith hahaha various Robbie Fowler News of the world Bosko Balaban Various Gary O'Connor The Sun Walter Pandiani Spanish News Andrea Carriaciola Ch4 website Andy Todd NOTW Claudio Pizarro Daily Record Ivan Alonso Grzegorz Rasiak Scott Sinclair DeMarcus Beasley Various Mart Poom Atiba Hutchinson Danish Newspaper Giorgos Efrem Cypriot wesbites Mika Vayrynen Various Marouane Chamakh Evening Times Matthias Bjarsmyr Swedish News Graeme Smith Various </pre> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Frankie: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gary Toner: Thankfully I have already overrated enough players so this is the only snag </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Cheat. Your mask is slipping. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Pfft wait till they see Sebo hitting the 40 goal mark next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 11, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 11, 2007 Have you transferred him to Cove Rangers or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Spanish defender Carlos Cuellar has begged Osasuna not to stand in the way of a possible move to Rangers. The 25-year-old was reportedly the recent subject of a failed £1m bid from Ibrox manager Walter Smith. But Cuellar told the Daily Record: "I just hope I don't lose this chance because my mind is already in Glasgow. "Osasuna know it is my wish to sign for Rangers but I do understand they will only let me go when they are happy with the price. That is their right." Cuellar, a one time trialist with Leeds, played against Rangers in last season's Uefa Cup. He starred in the 1-1 draw at Ibrox but was an unused substitute in the return leg - a 1-0 win for Osasuna. "I just hope everything gets sorted soon because I just want to get my suitcase packed and get started in Glasgow," added Cuellar. "I would love to play for Rangers and I have made that clear to Osasuna." </div></BLOCKQUOTE> The lad wants to be here so lets hope we can get him signed up See we are still mentioned regarding Alan Smith in the article about him possibly leaving Man Utd, I would absolutely LOVE it if we somehow pulled out the money to sign Smithy, He has all the qualities we need in a striker, it won't happen though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> RANGERS targets DaMarcus Beasley and Carlos Cuellar today sent out clear "come and get us" messages to the Ibrox club. Beasley netted twice for the United States in the 4-0 win over El Salvador in the Gold Cup at the Gillette Stadium in Massachusetts early today. Cuellar has begged La Liga cracks Osasuna not to scupper his move to Scotland after they reportedly rejected a £1m bid from Rangers. And Romanian defender Razvan Dinca Rat, who plays for Ukrainian club Shakhtar Donetsk, says he has been approached by the Ibrox side. Beasley's double helped Bob Bradley's troops maintain their unbeaten record in the tournament ahead of their quarter-final appearance on Saturday. The PSV Eindhoven ace, who spent last season on loan at Manchester City, is currently on top of Walter Smith's shopping list. It is believed Smith has agreed a fee of £700,000 for DaMarcus and will meet the player in America within 24 hours to finalise the move. And Cuellar has begged La Liga cracks Osasuna not to scupper his move to Scotland after they reportedly rejected a £1m bid from Rangers. The 25-year-old defender's representatives have agreed his personal terms, but Osasuna are believed to want a £2.7m transfer fee. Cuellar said: "I just hope I don't lose this chance because my mind is already in Glasgow. "Osasuna know it is my wish to sign for Rangers, but I do understand they will only let me go when they are happy with the price. That is their right. "But I just hope everything gets sorted soon as I just want to get my suitcase packed and get started in Glasgow. I would love to play for Rangers. I have made that clear to Osasuna. "There is a lot of passion in Scottish football and that's what I find so attractive. I know the Spanish players who have played there all love it, especially the support they get from the fans. "I also like the style of football over there, full of passion and energy." Romanian defender Razvan Dinca Rat, who plays for Ukranian club Shakhtar Donetsk, has today been linked with a move to Ibrox. The 25-year-old defender said: "I have heard of a few rumours, but I don't know of anything concrete. There have been offers from Holland, Greece and even Scotland." Rangers are already believed to be closing in on Kilmarnock starlet Stevie Naismith, Wigan's Lee McCulloch and Killie second-choice keeper Graeme Smith. And first choice keeper Allan McGregor is reported to be in line for a contract that will tie him to Ibrox until 2011 on double the money he is already on. Meanwhile, with new players on the way, Karl Svensson, Thomas Buffel, Libor Sionko are believed to be heading for the Ibrox exit door. Sasa Papac, too, has been linked with a move to St Etienne in France. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 13, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 13, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">See we are still mentioned regarding Alan Smith in the article about him possibly leaving Man Utd, I would absolutely LOVE it if we somehow pulled out the money to sign Smithy, He has all the qualities we need in a striker, it won't happen though </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Smith was absolutely terrible in the England match against Brazil that I watched. I've always thought he's been a bit overrated to be honest but if we were able to get him then I'm sure he'd do well in the SPL. There's no chance though. The fee and wages would be too high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Just one of those rumours that will never die until he retires or signs. See Fowler, Robbie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Yeah i know we have no chance, he is just a player I have always liked Hoping we get Beasley tied up, think he could be a useful player for us. Wish the McCulloch stuff would just drop though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 13, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 13, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hoping we get Beasley tied up, think he could be a useful player for us. Wish the McCulloch stuff would just drop though </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I strangely agree, but from what I've heard it would seem McCulloch would be more suited to the SPL than Beasley. I guess it's hard to say how a player will do until he plays. If it's only £700,000 then it's a worthy gamble IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Yeah its definately a risk but as you say a worthy gamble. He could come in and fail to be able to deal with the more physical side of it but I think he could be a very good player for us. How many good signings have we thought we have made over the years only for them to fail to adapt to the SPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagi [romania kick ass] Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 2.7 million for the Spanish chap seems fair enough ! Would be amusing if we couldnt afford that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Think the biggest doubt about Beasley is he's apparently too lightweight and may not handle the physical side of the SPL. Guess we'll find out if we sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJ Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Beasley the new Lovenkrands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 13, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 13, 2007 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Beasley the new Lovenkrands? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Lovenkrands was fine when played in his preferred position. Maybe the new Buffel is more appropriate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJ Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Yeah I liked Lovenkrands throught the middle, would take him back for 700k. Hopefully Beasley settles in well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Peter did score a number of important goals, we can't take that away from him thats for sure, he was never a winger and was never going to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted June 13, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted June 13, 2007 So who is starting the 07/08 thread tomorrow then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronandrews Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I actually did not see the osasuna gers game, or any osasuna games for that matter. Is this Cueller bloke actually that good? I would be right happy with DeMarcus, he may be a lightweight but they have to catch him first. 700,000 is pocket change, especially if we're willing to pay 1 million for mcculloch.. ffs! Dinca Rat has always been decent in football manager, that's all i can say with regards to him.. haha I wonder if Walter tried to get Tuncay, hell i still say any player would take rangers over middlesborough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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