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haz - do you know any more than i do about this 20/20 champions league at leicester? icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know any more other than it was an idea put forward by the Investors of Cricket group who have thrown a fair bit of money at Leics and hopefully it remains pie in the sky </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

pretty sure it'll go ahead:

http://www.investorsincricket.com/2020.doc

just wanna know how late in september it'll be. i reckon it's gonna fit in the gap between the derbyshire and lancashire county championship matches, straight after the last ashes test for prime sky coverage...

i reckon it will be a great money spinner for leicestershire, but how the authorities take it... :/

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rocky Rockstar:

LMAO @ fazpac wanting tp pick Jimmeh for the TEST side on the basis of his 20/20 performances icon_biggrin.gif Well Hoggard has been going at 10 an over in the 20/20 this season so shall we drop him from the test side? icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didnt say he should be picked. I said he looked in good shaped and should be pushing in the next couple of seasons, but he needs to play games and get wickets. I know its only 20/20 but thats the best Ive seen him play since his test debut.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by exchampionsfan:

I'm gettin concerned about Trescothick and Strauss against the Aussies, I just pray that they find some form, along with Vaughan, in the next 3 ODIs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jonathon Agnew, the Beeps cricket correspondant, says that there is an argument that Vaughan should be dropped from the ODI squad, if he doesnt improve his form in ODIs.

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Australia will not drop a player who has established himself in the side like Gillespie. It's between Kasper and Lee as to who takes the third quick spot in the team. Lee has been bowling pretty well in the ODIs and Kasper not so well, but Kasper was preferred during the Australian summer so he is the incumbent and these days it's hard to force out an incumbent once in the side.

Of potentially more concern to the Australians is the indifferent form of Hayden. He has continued his predilection for getting starts then getting out which he carried over from the Australian summer. Australia's way has been to build a strong opening partnership in quick time to demoralise the opponent's bowlers and then the middle order can come in and cream the bowlers for a few more runs, bat once then skittle the opposition twice in a row.

Hayden didn't look in good nick against NZ and Pakistan, but they didn't have the bowlers to exploit the weakness at the top of the order. England, on the other hand, may have a better chance of doing just that.

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I agree Vaughan has played some good ODI innings but not enough. He just needs to figure out a gameplan. I think he tries to often to attack too early. He should play an anchor role and rotate the strike and look to bat the innings out

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Prior included in one-day squad

Cricinfo staff

July 4, 2005

Matt Prior has been named in England's 15-man squad for the NatWest Challenge against Australia, which starts at Headingley on Thursday. He replaces Kabir Ali from the NatWest Series squad and will provide Duncan Fletcher with more flexibility when it comes to choosing a substitute as per the new regulations in one-day internationals. Chris Tremlett, who was called up as cover for Simon Jones, retains his place.

Prior made his one-day international debut against Zimbabwe last winter and was a surprising omission from the 25-man development squad named by England at the start of the season. However, consistent form for Sussex - including some explosive innings in Twenty20 - has kept him in the frame.

Prior said that he was delighted to get a recall and his relishing the prospect of facing Australia: "I felt it went well during the winter - I had a little taste of international cricket and I feel I know what to expect, although obviously it's going to be very different against a team like Australia.

"I have been in really good form this year, particularly in the National League and the Twenty20. I think having gone away over the winter both with England and with England A, has definitely helped me. I think I now have the confidence in my method, and the self belief that you need to do well.

"It's going to be different in The NatWest Challenge with the new regulations. But I know how to adapt my game to the situation and I enjoy the challenge of playing under pressure. If I do get an opportunity, I certainly won't be changing my approach or playing any differently."

David Graveney, the chairman of selectors, said: "We were delighted with the team's strong performances during The NatWest Series and have made only one change to the squad for The NatWest Challenge.

"With new playing regulations set to come into effect for The NatWest Challenge, we were conscious of the need to give the captain and coach greater flexibility within the squad. Matt Prior has been chosen as an impact player who is in good form and his inclusion will give Duncan [Fletcher] and Michael [Vaughan] more options for their choice as substitute.

"Matt has been chosen purely as a specialist batsman, although he will obviously provide cover for Geraint Jones in the event of injury. Geraint has been in excellent form with both the bat and the gloves and the innings he produced under great pressure on Saturday was an outstanding effort."

Graveney had words of comfort for Ali, who did not feature in any of the NatWest Series matches, despite his promising performances during the one-day internationals in South Africa. "His opportunities have been limited because the role of first change bowler which he took on in the winter in South Africa is now being filled by Steve Harmison and Andrew Flintoff. I have explained this to Kabir and reassured him that he remains in our thoughts for the future."

Squad Michael Vaughan (capt), Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Ashley Giles, Darren Gough, Steve Harmison, Geraint Jones (wk), Simon Jones, Jon Lewis, Kevin Pietersen, Matt Prior, Vikram Solanki, Andrew Strauss, Chris Tremlett, Marcus Trescothick

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Prior included icon14.gif No Kabir icon14.gificon14.gif

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Pakistan's Shoaib Akhtar says fellow paceman Steve Harmison is the key to England's Ashes hopes.

And Shoaib, who spent two seasons with Harmison at Durham, believes he can be as dangerous as former West Indian great Malcolm Marshall.

Shoaib said: "Australia have seven great batsmen in their side and Harmison is crucial to England's hopes.

"England have to get 20 wickets. They have to bowl really hard and Harmison has a major part to play."

Harmison, 26, had a poor winter with England in South Africa but has returned to form this summer.

He has taken 27 wickets in the County Championship for Durham, took 10 wickets in the two-Test series against Bangladesh and 15 in the NatWest Series.

Shoaib, who is currently playing for Worcestershire, added: "I told him a couple of years ago that, if he gets his line right, he can be a lethal and dangerous bowler like Malcolm Marshall.

"Because of his height, if he can get the ball off a fuller length, and because he gets extra bounce, he can be really lethal.

"But it is a great test because when you play against the better teams, it either makes you a better player - or you go down."

Shoaib also believes England have a sense of self-belief that has been lacking in previous encounters with the world champions.

"England never believed in the last Ashes series that they could win. This time they have a belief in their dressing room that they can and that's more important.

"And if the bowlers stay fit, I do believe they can make it come true." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of all the great bowlers in history why choose Marshall you silly prat, seeing as Harmison is about 3 feet taller than Marshall was icon_biggrin.gif

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According to a senior Pakistani cricket official, England have refused to play a Test in the troubled city of Karachi during their winter tour of the country, which gets underway in October.

England, who clinched a thrilling victory in near-darkness on their last visit to Karachi in December 2000, are expected to decide in ten days' time whether they are prepared to play in two one-day internationals in the city, according to Saleem Altaf of the Pakistan Cricket Board.

"They have agreed to play one limited-overs international in Karachi, but when we pressed for two back-to-back matches in Karachi, they said they will decide in the next ten days," Altaf said. "They will go by what their security experts and the high commission in Islamabad told them."

England's provisional schedule had included three Tests in Karachi, Faisalabad and Lahore and one-day games in Lahore, Rawalpindi and Karachi, with the tour beginning on October 25 and ending on December 22. But Karachi has a history of religious and ethnic violence, and England have long been wary of playing any cricket there.

In the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, Australia and West Indies have both refused to tour Pakistan, while Karachi has been rejected as a Test venue by South Africa and India after a bomb blast outside New Zealand's team hotel in May 2002, in which 14 people were killed.

In recent months, Karachi has been rocked by a series of deadly shootings as well as a suicide bombing at a mosque and the burning-down of a KFC restaurant in recent months. Two English experts, Andy Allman and Douglas Dick, have spent the last week assessing security at the various grounds, while a two-member England & Wales Cricket Board delegation, consisting of John Carr, the operations manager, and Richard Bevan, the players' representative, arrived in Pakistan on July 3.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicom:

I wouldn't mind seeing Prior play ahead of Vaughan. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Vaughan has to play. He will not find form in ODIs by not playing and his leadership is invaluable.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban:

http://content.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/212694.html

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According to a senior Pakistani cricket official, England have refused to play a Test in the troubled city of Karachi during their winter tour of the country, which gets underway in October.

England, who clinched a thrilling victory in near-darkness on their last visit to Karachi in December 2000, are expected to decide in ten days' time whether they are prepared to play in two one-day internationals in the city, according to Saleem Altaf of the Pakistan Cricket Board.

"They have agreed to play one limited-overs international in Karachi, but when we pressed for two back-to-back matches in Karachi, they said they will decide in the next ten days," Altaf said. "They will go by what their security experts and the high commission in Islamabad told them."

England's provisional schedule had included three Tests in Karachi, Faisalabad and Lahore and one-day games in Lahore, Rawalpindi and Karachi, with the tour beginning on October 25 and ending on December 22. But Karachi has a history of religious and ethnic violence, and England have long been wary of playing any cricket there.

In the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, Australia and West Indies have both refused to tour Pakistan, while Karachi has been rejected as a Test venue by South Africa and India after a bomb blast outside New Zealand's team hotel in May 2002, in which 14 people were killed.

In recent months, Karachi has been rocked by a series of deadly shootings as well as a suicide bombing at a mosque and the burning-down of a KFC restaurant in recent months. Two English experts, Andy Allman and Douglas Dick, have spent the last week assessing security at the various grounds, while a two-member England & Wales Cricket Board delegation, consisting of John Carr, the operations manager, and Richard Bevan, the players' representative, arrived in Pakistan on July 3.

© Cricinfo </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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I can understand their concern as a bomb went off outside the Kiwis hotel. This is not a case of the England team being poofs it is a genuine case that the ECB does not want to put players lifes in danger. I am sorry but there are some fundelmentalists who wish to kill all westerners. Where there is a real threat as the Kiwis found out the ECB has every right to request a change of venue.

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Shame that the bomb was aimed at a bus owned by the Pakistan Navy which had Pakistanis as well as some French contractors on board and had nothing whatsoever to do with the New Zealand cricket team whatsoever. Let's gloss over the fact that the Pakistani players were staying in the same hotel as well and assume that every pale face in Karachi is a target though icon14.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban:

Shame that the bomb was aimed at a bus owned by the Pakistan Navy which had Pakistanis as well as some French contractors on board and had nothing whatsoever to do with the New Zealand cricket team whatsoever. Let's gloss over the fact that the Pakistani players were staying in the same hotel as well and assume that every pale face in Karachi is a target though icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK take your point, the Kiwis werent the target, their were Pakistani cricketers in the same hotel. But the point I was making was, imagine yourself as a Kiwi cricketer [or any other 'western' citizen] and a bomb goes off near your hotel it is bound to make you a bit jumpy and want to get pout of their as soon as possible. Especially less than 12 months after 9/11, in a region of Pakistan that has a large mionority of Bin Laden simpethisers.

With regards to you next point I think Englad's saftey advisors will advise the England team not to play in Karichi.

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Fleming was so traumatised that he left the hotel and started filming the wreckage with his video camera hours after the explosion. Poor guy.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">in a region of Pakistan that has a large mionority of Bin Laden simpethisers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How'd you work that one out?!?! icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban:

Fleming was so traumatised that he left the hotel and started filming the wreckage with his video camera hours after the explosion. Poor guy.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">in a region of Pakistan that has a large mionority of Bin Laden simpethisers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How'd you work that one out?!?! icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im sorry I was generalising Im a half asleep. Sorry for causing any offence. I should really learn to shut my gob.

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In fairness to the ECB and their security "experts" I do feel that they have a point in that the Bin Laden loving, whiteman hating, psycopathic terrorists that inhabit Karachi might be able to breach the level of protection and security that is usually reserved for visiting presidents but they'll be thwarted when the England side go and play in Islamabad instead because they'll never think of hopping on a train and bombing the team there.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Glenn:

Prior would come in for Simon Jones or Harmy if Eng were chasing a target </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i don't understand how the subs rule can possibly have any benefit whatsoever for the team who bats first - unless you're allowed to name your team after the toss.

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I believe you name the side before the toss which wouldn't seem to make much sense unless I'm mistaken and you name your 12 before the toss and then choose the starting XI and substitute afterwards but as that would be the sensible thing to do I'm sure the rules require you to do the opposite.

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If I made the rules I would alow the teams to name a 16 man squad before the toss and the starting XI after the toss so if you bat first you could gamble with a batting heavy line up. As the rules state you cant subsitute a player is is out or has bowled his full compliment of overs.

For example you would name 6 specialist batters (inc. 1 batter keeper), 7 specalist bowlers, 2 all rounders, a specialist keeper, winning the toss and deciding to bat your starting XI would include 6 specialist batters (inc. 1 batter keeper/fielder) specalist batsmen. 9,10 and 11 would be your 2 all rounders and 1 speacilist bowlers. Alternativley if you have a batting collapse and you are all out for 196, you will only be able to subsitute the one player not out. So therefore you would have only have at most 4 bowlers.

But if you win the toss and bowl first your starting XI that goes onto the pitch would include your 7 specalist bowlers and 2 all rounders plus your specialist keepr and one specialist batsmen. Obviously you wont use the bowlers full 10 overs. So the advantage in ODIs will to be win the toss and have a bowl as you could easily give each of your 7 specialist bowlers and two all rounders 5 to 6 overs each.

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Just had this put out over the email system at work - have spoken to the department in question and they are happy to sell them to people on here:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">npower Ashes Test Series t-shirts

We have npower Ashes Test Series tour t-shirts on sale at just £5 each (usually sold for £10 in cricket grounds).

The good news is that you get a good quality t-shirt and money will be donated to Macmillan Cancer Relief at the same time!

You need to include the size you would like (Small, Medium, Large or Extra Large) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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As you can see from the pictures - they're pretty good quality - I got a couple myself yesterday.

On the back it lists all the fixtures for the Ashes series

If anyone wants one of these T-Shirts - then email me in profile with your size, address, etc. and I'll tell you where to send the £5 to.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

pretty much yeah.

when's the next game? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tomorrow night 7:30 on Channel 7

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban:

Younis Khan has just signed a 6 week contract to play for Notts while Fleming is away with New Zealand. The first Pakistani batsman to play county cricket since 1991 icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Excluding Shoaib Aktar who had a period playing as a specialist batsman last season ofc icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haz:

I'm sorry, but I lost the will to live shortly into the second paragraph icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let me explain.

1. Each team selects a 15-man squad before the toss. Consisting of 6 batters (inc. 1 batter wkt keeper), 6 bowlers, 2 all-rounders and 1 wkt keeper batter. The captain/coach can make up to 4 substitutions.

2. A player cannot be subbed when he has finished his allotted time in the game (i.e. a batsman is out and a bowler has bowled his full compliment of overs.)

3. The captain of the team who wins the toss then decides to bat or bowl.

4. If he chooses to bat he chooses his strongest batting line up made up of his 6 batters followed by the two all-rounders followed by the specialist wkt keeper and the best batters amounts his bowlers.

5. This is a risky strategy because if his team have a batting collapse, then none of the batters can be substituted for bowlers.

6. He bowls 1st, thus takes to the field with 6 bowlers, 2 all-bounders, a specialist wicket keeper and his best two batter fielders.

7. Bowling 1st and selecting a bowling specialist attack carries little risk as long as none of the bowlers bowl 10 overs (or start their 10th).

Haz hopes this helps explain.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rocky Rockstar:

Here's an idea:

1. Select 11 players

2. Play a game of cricket

Looks good to me icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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