2 big errors with challenger pro league

This is the result at the end of the season. Deinze promoted, beerschot stayed behind... This was because deinze finished first in the regular season, before the league split.

regular season

end of complete season after split

 

This took me 30 minutes to test out, promotion/religation. I'm really starting to wonder if this league ever gets alpha tested at all. Basic bugs like this should not be in the game.

Edited October 20, 2022 by xenomorphing

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first issue: youth teams cannot participate in championship round:

For me, if you only read the RBFA rules, it's not that clear

 

U23 can't be champions but cannot be promoted. If they can be champions, it means that they can play the championship playoffs...

Youth teams can participate in both promotion as relegation round. They can relegate but not promote to first division.

4 minutes ago, Jova said:

For me, if you only read the RBFA rules, it's not that clear

 

U23 can't be champions but cannot be promoted. If they can be champions, it means that they can play the championship playoffs...

It's been clarified that they cannot take part in the championship round. It's not possible and shouldn't be in the game.

19 minutes ago, xenomorphing said:

It's been clarified that they cannot take part in the championship round. It's not possible and shouldn't be in the game.

I just simulated to the end of season 2 and they didn't participate in the head to head games for first division promotion.

On 20/10/2022 at 21:48, DeJarnoxD said:

I just simulated to the end of season 2 and they didn't participate in the head to head games for first division promotion.

That's good to know, but this still needs to be fixed for the first season.

We've got this under review now, thank you.

On 25/10/2022 at 02:31, Kyle Brown said:

We've got this under review now, thank you.

Hi,

Is the problem that  Youth teams can't promote from 3rd to 2nd division also known and being changed?

Edited October 28, 2022 by WilltheWolf92

Il y a 17 heures, WilltheWolf92 a dit :

Is the problem that  Youth teams can't promote from 3rd to 2nd division also known and being changed?

Well. They can.

9 hours ago, Jova said:

Well. They can.

True but it doesn't happen in the beta version.

Il y a 9 heures, WilltheWolf92 a dit :

True but it doesn't happen in the beta version.

OHL and Young Reds promoted in my savegame:

 

Are any of these problems with this league expected to be fixed before half the game its lifecycle has passed?...

u23 teams CAN participate in the champions play off.

They CANNOT get promoted. (as the senior teams play in div 1)

They CAN participate in the relegation play off

They CAN be relegated.

So issue about participating in the play offs is incorrect.

Promotions to Challenger Pro seem to work.

On 18/12/2022 at 18:35, Moondog777 said:

u23 teams CAN participate in the champions play off.

They CANNOT get promoted. (as the senior teams play in div 1)

They CAN participate in the relegation play off

They CAN be relegated.

So issue about participating in the play offs is incorrect.

Promotions to Challenger Pro seem to work.

Guess time will tell...

How about promotion from challenger to pro league? The issue that's by far the biggest?

Edited December 21, 2022 by xenomorphing

@Kyle Brown Could you have the promotion issue checked out?

1st ending in the championship play off gets promoted. Not the one ending 1st after the regular season.

Can confirm this issue was addressed in our December update but requires a new save game to come into effect. 

Le 20/10/2022 à 21:28, xenomorphing a dit :

It's been clarified that they cannot take part in the championship round. It's not possible and shouldn't be in the game.

And finaly it seems they can, per the same source that used to say that they can't

 

idea was that they can participate, but not promote to the same division where the feeder club is in.

So all in CHallenger can't promote. They can go down however.

On the other hand, those in the lower divisions, Young Reds, Jong Gent... can promote, as the won't be in the same league if they do so.

On 06/02/2023 at 12:48, Jova said:

And finaly it seems they can, per the same source that used to say that they can't

 

I don't regret making that statement as that was literally the only official source back when that was posted.

Edited February 10, 2023 by xenomorphing

Le 06/02/2023 à 17:21, Moondog777 a dit :

idea was that they can participate, but not promote to the same division where the feeder club is in.

The Pro League told in June that the U23 couldn't access to the Promotion Playoffs:

https://www.proleague.be/fr/cpl/news/de-nouvelles-bases-pour-le-football-professionnel-belge

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Les équipes U23 ne peuvent pas être promues en Jupiler Pro League ni participer aux play-offs de la Deuxième Division. Si une équipe U23 termine dans les six premiers, cette équipe sera remplacée par le club classique le mieux classé dans le classement général.

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U23-teams kunnen niet promoveren naar de Jupiler Pro League en ook niet deelnemen aan de play-offs van de Tweede Divisie. Indien een U23-team bij de eerste zes zou eindigen, wordt dit team vervangen door de eerstvolgende klassieke club in het algemeen klassement.

This is utterly stupid.

I agree about the miscommnication from the pro league.

In thei defence, it was a new set up, and most wasn't agreed or communicated in time.

Current set up is better in my opinion.

In real life, NXT & Futures have both qualified. I think they earn to compete the remaining matches at the best level, as it is the idea to help evolve the players.

Non promotion to the same league as the feeder club is obvious as well.

And as we can notice, adding the u23 squads hasn't led to the being demolished each week. On the contrary I would say.