lltomll Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Anyone noticed how rarely the game creates inside forward regens? Iam in 2020 and all my inside forwards started their careers as forwards Then i retrained then to the attacking wide position oposite to their foot. Dont you think that not all wide players should be wingers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanio Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 You retrain forwards (SC) as wingers (AML/R) to play as an inside forward - is that what you're saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Inside Forward = FC ?? you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangelito Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I see quite a few regen wingers in my youth team that has the potential to be good inside forwards. It's just about developing them the right way with training. However, I get what you are saying that maybe the AI doesn't do that, and would rather view all wide players as wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Inside foward its not a position... its a style of play. Any AMR or AML, or even better AMR/ST or AML/ST can play very well as inside fowards. And even some ST can play as inside fowards. you must look at the players stats and see if they can play in that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 i was going to say no players have the description "Inside Forward" its a role you assign a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar2000 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 The problem is far too many regens with only 1 or 2 natural positions but no 'Acomplished or Compentent' positions. I have seen AML as natural but a red dot 'Ineffectual' for ML for the same player. Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanio Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 The problem is far too many regens with only 1 or 2 natural positions but no 'Acomplished or Compentent' positions.I have seen AML as natural but a red dot 'Ineffectual' for ML for the same player. Ridiculous. agreed. i havent seen a newgen with an orange or yellow dot - just natural and accomplished but nothing else. basically means you have to spend an age retraining them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lltomll Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 What iam saying is that almost, if not all, AML and AMR are created with high crossing ability and in the same side to their best foot(ie AMR with right foot) As oposed to a AMR with the left foot as their best and a good finishing ability I also noticed a high percentage of centerbacks that cant jump. I have at least three in my team that i have retrained as fullbacks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 thats because very few players are encouraged to play on the wrong side of the pitch until they are much older, inside forward doesnt really exist in kids football, its later in life when you reach pro level you learn how to play more specific roles like that. I have found most players can learn a position within the space of a season even if the game makes it out that they have never played there in their lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lltomll Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 This is a reasonable answer, however I think that Messi was always a inside forward. And a recent example is Neymar. He can be deployed as a forward or as a att mid from the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 This is a reasonable answer, however I think that Messi was always a inside forward. And a recent example is Neymar. He can be deployed as a forward or as a att mid from the left. messi doesnt really play as an inside forward for barca, he gets a free role to roam about and find space, and neymar has been a pro footballer for a few years now, although he is young he stlil has a few seasons at pro level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lltomll Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Very good answer again. But dont you think that at lest one should appear? I have seen even more specialized roles appear, like a deep-lying-playmaker, box-to-box(ok, they are normal in england, but not in the rest of the world). About the centerbacks that cant jump, what do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Very good answer again.But dont you think that at lest one should appear? I have seen even more specialized roles appear, like a deep-lying-playmaker, box-to-box(ok, they are normal in england, but not in the rest of the world). About the centerbacks that cant jump, what do you think? I see what your saying but there are plenty of players who will have the attributes required for them to be trained into inside forwards, no player will start the game as a deep-lying play maker or box to box midfielder, you are the one who puts them into this role based on their attributes, it just so happens that in those two instances they will usually already play centre mid naturally so they fit into the roles easily. I think most wide players could be trained into an inside forward all they have to learn is how to play the attacking side position, but you would have to know what important attributes these players will need to see if they could be succesful there. The defender jumping thing is annoying, but the game does seem to even it up, i dont know why that happens to be honest and it used to annoy the hell out of me but over the course of a few seasons you will find plenty of good central defenders who can jump, id like to think these players are there so we have to think about their best position, in your case making them full backs, i recently converted a defensive mid into a right back because he had good crossing skils and shed loads of pace, however its probabaly nothing to do with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojojojo101 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I would personally argue that in RL many of the players you would class as an Inside forward are likely to have started off playing either as a striker or in a more central position, hence thier 'natural' tendancy to come into the middle of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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