AndyRich Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I have posted a thread about laptops vs pcs before and got a great response, so thanks! I have now narrowed it down to two different laptops and would like the FM community to help me decide which one to choose All i need is for you to say laptop 'A' or 'B' and why you think i should choose it over the other one. Laptop A: http://store.packardbell.com/store/pbemea/en_GB/pd/productID.222606200 Laptop B: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-dv6-3032sa-06559636-pdt.html?srcid=369&xtor=AL-11 If any addtional details are needed I have the full specifications in front of me on paper Your opinions count! Thanks guys, Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzvilla Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I have posted a thread about laptops vs pcs before and got a great response, so thanks! I have now narrowed it down to two different laptops and would like the FM community to help me decide which one to choose All i need is for you to say laptop 'A' or 'B' and why you think i should choose it over the other one. Laptop A: http://store.packardbell.com/store/pbemea/en_GB/pd/productID.222606200 Laptop B: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-dv6-3032sa-06559636-pdt.html?srcid=369&xtor=AL-11 If any addtional details are needed I have the full specifications in front of me on paper Your opinions count! Thanks guys, Andy i have just boight a hp g56 laptop with windows 7 and with 3gb of memory and a 64 bit operating system and a intel celeronduel core cpu my question is could i run 3 nations-england full leagues,italy 2 leagues and spain 2 leagues at meduim size database can you help thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRich Posted December 5, 2010 Author Share Posted December 5, 2010 ^^^ Well that really answers my question! Stop trying to steal my thread, i need some quick respectable answers rather than people that don't have a clue writing random rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzvilla Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 in answer to your question i would go with hp laptop could u answer my question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkanu Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I would go with the HP. Marginly Better CPU, Better graphics chip. and its cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I would go with the HP. Marginly Better CPU, Better graphics chip. and its cheaper. Your wrong there my friend.. Intel's series iX are better than AMD Phenom are.. But yeah go for the HP even though its not in top, it will still be fine enough for the game. And i dont seem to see what graphics card theres in the Packard Bell, but from personal experience is Packard Bell not using high graphic cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkanu Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 is a i3 at that speed better than the phemon at 2.8 ? remember the i3 is pretty damn restricted low end proc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkanu Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 mmm yeah the i3 is slightly faster. there is hardly any in it though they are both pretty weak. You need to find out what graphics chip the pakardbell has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church CM Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 ASUS G73 ... your pants will split from the massive stiffy this machine will give you. i7 chip .. 1.6 to nearly 3.0 on need 6 megs ram ATI 5780 17" screen 1600 x 900 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I would go for the HP. Just because it mentions the graphic card which can run 3D on high. Both CPUs are fairly similar and will run around 20 leagues +/- 5 for patience. Use this thread BTW http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/229226-FM-2011-Official-System-Specs-Thread/page11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 ASUS G73 ... your pants will split from the massive stiffy this machine will give you.i7 chip .. 1.6 to nearly 3.0 on need 6 megs ram ATI 5780 17" screen 1600 x 900 Trice the price though.. I believe he got a money restriction.. And almost no matter what Intel iX series beat AMD.. AMD are really bad quality in laptops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 And almost no matter what Intel iX series beat AMD.. AMD are really bad quality in laptops Elaborate or give me a link or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Elaborate or give me a link or something. Lets compare mine with another AMD: I got Intel I5 430m - With 2.26 ghz DUAL core - Overclockable to 2.59 ghz, scoring a benchmark score on 2360. The one with most similiar score that's an AMD is a quad core: AMD Phenom X4 9350e with 2 ghz QUAD core... In conclusion either you need a quad core, tri? core or a high end dual core AMD to follow a "low" Intel I5.. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 WHAT? You decided on a product on just one benchmark, which does not relate to real world performance. WTH. http://gigaom.com/mobile/intel-vs-amd-one-notebook-highlights-the-differences/ AMD Laptop is $100 cheaper than Intel. But it still is better in all tasks. Intel only had a big win in battery backup (Which decreases with performance). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Goodjob dude... You compared with the weakest processor ever, which is made for battery power... CULV series are not for any use.. Other than a 10.1" notebook for 9 hours battery.. And if i remember right.. Then this discussion was about the intel iX series.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Good job by you too. Comparing a two year old 9350e (2008) with core i5 (early this year). And btw 9350e is also made for battery power. the e denotes that. And if you want a high end comparision http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=659210 AMD N950 is 50 bucks cheaper than i5 460m. Its better than 450m in your bechmark link (460m isn't there). Its way better for multi-threaded apps. Like FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Didn't know 9350e was 2 years old.. As im NO fan of AMD.. But AMD N950 doesnt have L3 cache.. The I5 does.. The i5 got higher gHz but only 2 cores, BUT 4 threads.. The 950N got lower gHz but 4 cores, BUT STILL only 4 threads.. So multi threading would be exactly the same.. Or not because I5 got bigger cache.. So Intel wins again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 1) There is a heck of a difference between real cores and Hyper-threaded cores. 2) What do you want the L3 cache for. Show off? All you want is performance. Also Cache architecture of Intel and AMD is different. Comments on that thread as you said exactly what the OP said there Native quad over HT quads for anything that uses it.Its tough to compare cross platform (intel v AMD) as far as the cache foes as they are handled differently. If the games can use 3 or more cores, the quad core will almost certainly win. If the games can only use 1-2 cores, the i5 will win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Let me hear one thing.. You are sitting at a desktop right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Laptop. Why? And BTW that benchmark site you linked to has 2563 pts for i5 460M and 2682 pts for N950. Doesn't that make it better in your opinion. Also considering its 50 bux cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Okay Somehow yeah its better, but what about comparing Intel i5-i7 quad cores to AMD quad cores now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Actually AMD is great value for money in the budget dept. Right now the best AMD CPUs (both desktop & laptop) are priced equal to Intel medium high end. And perform nearly the same too (depending on uses). So in the very high end segment Intel is the only thing available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 True, AMD are great performance for the price! But in the long run (High end) Intel just performs better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Meh Fanboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRich Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 1 - I am sitting on the family desktop. I intend to go to uni or get a job etc, therefore would need my own computer that can play games, do work and be very portable 2 - The guys from PC World said that the "i3" is better than the "AMD". Although the Packard bell having a gigabyte less ram than the HP will make the HP laptop faster even with the slightly worse cpu. This is what i have been told, he may have been bullshitting? but yeah 3 - The Packard Bell is not the exact laptop, it is slightly more expensive, but with almost the exact same spec. The one in PC World which was similar is £449.99 4 - Yes the Packard Bell is an "i3" rather than an "i5" in the laptop i am looking to buy. Sorry for any confusion with the similar laptop link. 4 - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 1 - I am sitting on the family desktop. I intend to go to uni or get a job etc, therefore would need my own computer that can play games, do work and be very portable These can hardly play games other than FM. Non latest games on low. Old on med and high. 2 - The guys from PC World said that the "i3" is better than the "AMD". Although the Packard bell having a gigabyte less ram than the HP will make the HP laptop faster even with the slightly worse cpu. This is what i have been told, he may have been bullshitting? but yeah He is correct to an extent. Can't go wrong with either choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRich Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 To be fair i have an xbox so the only game i will be playing on it is FM ... and possibly total war, cos that is just a sick game! According to pc world, these laptops should do this well. And the comments on here have been quite positive as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Yep good enough for FM and TW. Get it. And I love both the games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRich Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 Top lad Ishu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Just go get a Sony Vaio right away! You won't get dissappointed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Personally I'd go for the HP because of dedicated graphics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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