scoot4nat Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 From previous posts something has occurred to me. If I send a scout to a foreign country where he has no knowledge, let's say Brazil, where there is a lot of young talent, he will come back with some player reccomendations. Eventually he will have "full" knowledge of Brazil. If I then ask him to scout the same country , will he come back with more players? Put short, does his previous knowledge bring up more players. Let's also say he has 20/20 in JCA JPA, will he be able to unearth more gems? And if he has full knowledge, will he complete scouting the country faster? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 A scout of higher ability will have a better judgment, which means you can trust his assessment more than if a bad scout recommends a player. It does not necessarily mean he will find more players (remember there are always just two sides on the pitch ). Theoretically full knowledge should mean that he 'knows' every player in that country, but I doubt it. Can't offer an advice in that area, sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxonaitor Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Sounds reasonable I don't know the answer though Edit:Jayahr Beats Me! With an answer as well!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoot4nat Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 A scout of higher ability will have a better judgment, which means you can trust his assessment more than if a bad scout recommends a player. It does not necessarily mean he will find more players (remember there are always just two sides on the pitch ).Theoretically full knowledge should mean that he 'knows' every player in that country, but I doubt it. Can't offer an advice in that area, sorry I appreciate that better scouts give more accurate reports on individual players. What I am trying to clarify is if a scout has full knowledge of a country, how he compares to an equally ood scout who has no knowledge fo the country. More players or quicker to finish assignment. Thanks for the replies so far... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxonaitor Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I would say Both to be Honest cause if you know a country, you know where stuff is, where to look and stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoot4nat Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 I would say Both to be Honest cause if you know a country, you know where stuff is, where to look and stuff That's a fair point I suppose. So on that assumption it could be concluded that the scout with 100% knowledge would find more players and fairly quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 My guess too would that the scout with no knowledge of the country would take far longer and find fewer players. The actual reports might be more accurate and detailed due to his better attributes, however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoot4nat Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 So on this assumption it might be a good idea to scout a country and once the scout has full knowledge, send him back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 How long would it take a scout with initially no knowledge to gain full knowledge of a country? I'd guess forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoot4nat Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 How long would it take a scout with initially no knowledge to gain full knowledge of a country? I'd guess forever. To be honest I've had a few scouts with 20/20 JCA JPA who have no knowledge of Spain, Brazil, Portugal and I think Argentina who have went to one of the countires and gained full knowledge by the end of their assignment - no more than 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serj Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Don't scouts with high determination find more players per search? I'm sure I read that somewhere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 From what I can gather: PA/CA = accuracy of reports Adaptability = how long they take gaining knowledge of new countries Determination + Disipline = how long they take scouting players in general. Think that's fairly accurate..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoot4nat Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Don't scouts with high determination find more players per search? I'm sure I read that somewhere... Think I've read that somewhere as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 "Adaptability = how long they take gaining knowledge of new countries" Logical , but I've never heard that one before. Can anyone confirm? I like it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Really? I thought that was common knowledge sorry... Dunno where I originally heard this, but it is for sure the case... I've just always known it since like FM05 Even if you try to google "football manager scouts adaptability" you'll see loads of random posts saying it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsgouro Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I did a small experiment, as I don't have the time for something more acurate, and here it is: I hired 2 scouts, same knowledge of a country (England), about the same determination (15-16). Scout 1: JPP 14, JPA 12, rep=regional Scout 2: JPP 6, JPA 4, rep=local I requested scout reports for 10 different players from each of them. All the players had more or less the same amount of attributes hidden. The results: 1) The reports were compiled at exactly the same date. 2) The detail level of every report (strengths, weaknesses, personality etc.) was exactly the same. Also, seeing the player's personalities and several attributes, both scouts gave fairly accurate reports. 3) Scout 1 had almost every player's attributes revealed. Scout 2 had just one player fully "revealed", while for all the others many attributes remained hidden. So, it seems that for scouting idividuals to find out their hidden attributes, we need higher JCA/PA and maybe reputation. For country/region scouting, I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Scout knowledge only unlocks players stats anyway really. So if you've got full knowledge of, for example, Brazil, then clicking a Brazilian will let you see their stats which otherwise would be hidden. I've found that if you leave a scout in a country once they've gained full knowledge, then all you get is "the capital city is ... " rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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