immuner Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Ok folks, thanks to Dr Bernhard's Framework, i gave it a shot yesterday and i can say i have a working beta today. It is my first play ever with C#, so any feedback is welcome and sorry for any mistakes. You can search for players using names (c ivi will give ivica dragutinovic for example), positions, current club, nationality, current value, sale value, age, PA and CA. You will be able to search for staff and export a shortlist but i haven't started working on it yet and currently i'm at work. Maybe in the evening i have something (maybe not it's CL night tonight ). I tried to keep the layout close to Genie's as this is the one i'm used to and i guess most people here. I used the features i was using most. I made this tool for fun and because i enjoyed the ability to search for players outside the game's scope. It does not allow you to edit players, as I was never doing that myself. I played with it a bit last night, seemd that it worked alright. Instructions to use: Since it is an ingame scout, you need to have your game running. Run FM2009 and after you load your game, hit atl + tab to go back to the desktop, run the scout and click load and load FM2009. If it loads properly, then the buttons will be enabled. Hope you enjoy . Update: v0.7 Link 30-11-2008 Immuner's FMScout v0.7 Beta Changelist Added Features - Search for contract expiry date - Ability to search and display all possible player and staff attributes - Added preferences option to select currency (pounds, euro or dollars) - Added preferences option to select wage display (weekly, monthly or yearly) - Added wonderkids button Changes - bugfixes - Fixed several bugs on the display of elements - Changed data structures to speed up searching 27-11-2008 Immuner's FMScout v0.6 Beta Changelist Added Features - Search for staff - Search options for staff: Name, Nationality, Role, Age, CA, PA - Clear search fields for staff Changes - bugfixes - All search fields are now disabled until loading the game - Numeric fields now accept only numeric values - Results View now sorts properly numbers and dates 25-11-2008 Immuner's FMScout v0.5 Beta Features - Search for players - Search options for players: Name, Nationality, Club, Value, Sale Value, Age, CA, PA, Position - Clear search fields for players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentregan Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Not a bad effort. When sorting by sale value the sorting has the same problem as most of the other scouts about in that all the value are mixed even when you try to sort according to value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentregan Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 And also you cannot search for players in the team that you are managing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 yes. i am aware of that, but i will try to fix it as soon as i get home. As for searching for players in your team, this will probably be the 3rd button next to staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broode Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Could you post a screen perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 It only shows 17 of my squad (which I think there’s around 40 players in) FM Scout does the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Immuner's FMScout v0.6 Beta Changelist Added Features - Search for staff - Search options for staff: Name, Nationality, Role, Age, CA, PA - Clear search fields for staff Changes - bugfixes - All search fields are now disabled until loading the game - Numeric fields now accept only numeric values - Results View now sorts properly numbers and dates Link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky28 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 How do you get it to work could you please explain? I have tried loading it from the option and nothing happens? Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 It is an ingame scout as it is based on the Ingame FrameWork. So run FM2009 and after you load your game, hit atl + tab to go back to the desktop, run the scout and click load and load fm2009. If it loads properly, then the buttons will be enabled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky28 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Cheers man I have tried that and still nothing, in fact I have tried all the scouts that are available on here and nothing works does it need to be in a special directory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atytse Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 hey immuner can you make a mac version too? or at least make it Crossover compatible? That would be very helpful thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 No dude. You just need to have your FM2009 game up and running because it uses the game's memory to load the data. You're probably doing something wrong Maybe it doesn't work without the latest patch. If you don't have it, go and get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky28 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 The latest patch being? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=384 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky28 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Yeah tried that but what is weird is that when I play the game it doesn't say it in the version I am playing apparently I am still playing 9.0.0 would this be because I have played off a save game from the Demo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coakesy Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Very good thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottiseiya Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Good one. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenbin Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 For the staff search it only show result for assistant manager and gk coach, i search for other roles it come out nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Really? Must be something stupid i've done . Anyways, i think that the staff search is still a bit useless now as you cannot search for specific attributes. Thanks guys for your feedback. I will try to fix that today but i'm working in two jobs and my time is very limited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenbin Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 thanks hopefully you have the time to add new feature today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudubrdx Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Good job What we really need now is a "show potential attributes" button or a rating system like genie's scout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2403 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 nice job mate looks pretty damn good from here ill give it whirl cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Really? Must be something stupid i've done . Anyways, i think that the staff search is still a bit useless now as you cannot search for specific attributes. Thanks guys for your feedback. I will try to fix that today but i'm working in two jobs and my time is very limited. All staff are shown as being an assman/goalkeeper coach (so even Mourinho etc). Staff search isnt entirely useless though. Being able to filter on scouts and sort on CA for example, allows you to see which scouts have a high CA. A high CA means scouts take less time to scout a country/region (and for coaches its means they give more detailed coach reports). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Do you mean how high a player's attributes can go? As a first step in the next version it will show all the player's and staff atributes and give also the ability to search through all of them. To show the potential attributes of a player is possible, but can never be too accurate as this is based on the game's AI system and the training your players go through, but i could give it a shot later on . What i was doing with genie's scout, I was checking a player's PA and then his current attributes. According to his position, I could guess which ones could go higher and then my training was based on that. Staff search isnt entirely useless though. Being able to filter on scouts and sort on CA for example, allows you to see which scouts have a high CA. A high CA means scouts take less time to scout a country/region (and for coaches its means they give more detailed coach reports). I remember that when i was searching for staff with certain high coaching abilities, the ones that could do the job had usually lower CA, than others. By the way did you ever get your staff CA to increase? I never noticed anything in previous FM versions. hey immunercan you make a mac version too? or at least make it Crossover compatible? That would be very helpful thanks Sorry man, just saw your post. Seems you posted as i was answering the previous post and i didn't refresh the page . I am not sure whether DrBernhard's framework can be used with a Mac. I don't own a Mac, but if it's possible i will certainly do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapatero Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Thanks for your work. Could you, please, also allow to use Euros as currency? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 is there anyway of saving a shortlist, this would be very usefull, also a search filter for eu national or nationalities? KUTGW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALEXANDER999 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Great Work Immuner --Thank you very much mate, Any chance of adding a positional rating system --i.e where the player plays best(May have been asked earlier) and also I agree that Euro conversion button would really be useful. Once again thanks..... this is really quality !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALEXANDER999 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 @Immuner, One more issue that I found --You cant search the team that you are managing...Can you take a look at this . Cheers Once again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I remember that when i was searching for staff with certain high coaching abilities, the ones that could do the job had usually lower CA, than others. Yeah, thats the silly thing about staff CA often still does play a role though, and since we can check attributes ingame but not CA, having a scout program that allows to look and sort by CA is very usefull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 All these are in my schedule. As long as i have time they will be implemented. Something i would like to ask which I find really important is whether you have bumped into a design issue. In other words, do you think that a certain functionality could be done in a way that would need less user....errr...inputs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul82 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Hi guys, i have a question wonder if any can help..how do you guys know what's the actual sale value of the player in the game itself or is the value in the program the exact value as the game ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenbin Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 immuner any update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Can you make it so you can copy a players name???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 Ok guys, it took me a little longer as i was too busy with work and other stuff, but i found some time yesterday and worked on it. I had to add lots of data and redesign some issues for the new features. It's my first few days with C# so I am always discovering new things . Thank Cartman i'm a fast coder... P.S. Something's wrong with my pc seems i have problem accessing the forums. Pages take ages to load. 30-11-2008 Immuner's FMScout v0.7 Beta Changelist Added Features - Search for contract expiry date - Ability to search and display all possible player and staff attributes - Added preferences option to select currency (pounds, euro or dollars) - Added preferences option to select wage display (weekly, monthly or yearly) - Added wonderkids button Changes - bugfixes - Fixed several bugs on the display of elements - Changed data structures to speed up searching Link Note: I excluded wage display because the data is not being extracted correctly and the numbers are wrong. For some reason, searching a big list of players for their contract expiry date (apart from wrong) slows down the app too much (without it takes about 2s and with it more than 10s ). So the wages buttons for both players and staff and the contract expiry button for players are disabled. Next steps involve adding shortlist functionality and individual personal display. Still can't get it to show own team's data . Maybe i'm doing something wrong or maybe the framework has an issue with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenbin Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Thanks have been waiting for your update, will test for you the new feature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 Continuing here to clear things up a bit http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?p=2194467 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmA Deo Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 When I try to open it says error "0xc0000135" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hee163 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Searching by club isn't working for me. I've tried quite a few. no luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasydays21 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 immuner thanks for your hard work but i can't get it to work, i can open the scout but it does not load. ive downloaded framework 3-5 sp1 but still nothing, im using vista if u hav any tips foe me would be greatly appreciated. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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