Block4Gooner Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I have a problem with my Arsenal finances after season 1. I started by having no transfers allowed. I had a wage budget of 2,982.000 pw but season 2 it dropped to 2.886.000 even after winning the prem my overall balance season 1 was 308.948,000 season 2 326,761,000 My profit season 1 was 64,874,000 why has my wage budget gone down? also my wage budget is quite small in relation to other big teams. Arsenal wage budget season 2 is 2M 886k (season 1 2M 982K = down 96K pw) spending 2M 923k Transfer budget 72M nett transfer 72M Spurs 2M 39k (season 1 1M 867K = up 72K pw) 2M 89k 30M 13.15M Man U 4M 324k (season1 4M 847K =down 523K) 4M 360k 83M 28M Citeh 4M 168K (season 1 3M 653K = up 515K pw) 4M 535k 11.5M 163M Chelsea 3M 282K (season1 2M 964K = up 318K pw) 3M 642K 20M 48M Liverpool 2M 842K (season 1 2M 773K = up 71K pw) 3M 642K 58M 60M any suggestions appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Your board are probably aware that wage budgets are important and want to keep a tight reign on things ... not sure why you think having a good season should automatically mean you get a bigger budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block4Gooner Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 51 minutes ago, Welshace said: Your board are probably aware that wage budgets are important and want to keep a tight reign on things ... not sure why you think having a good season should automatically mean you get a bigger budget. reduced budget all other tams (except city champs league) won nowt but got an increase so i'd expect an inrease with an operating profit of 60M+ have now 90M to spend but cany buy anyone as can only pay £200 pw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Block4Gooner said: reduced budget all other tams (except city champs league) won nowt but got an increase so i'd expect an inrease with an operating profit of 60M+ have now 90M to spend but cany buy anyone as can only pay £200 pw So why not transfer some of that £90m into the wage budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block4Gooner Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Cougar2010 said: So why not transfer some of that £90m into the wage budget? will not let me due to ffp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, Block4Gooner said: will not let me due to ffp So there is the answer to your original post. You can't have an increase to your wage budget due to FFP rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 If you're FFP restricted then the board have rightly decided to not risk picking up a fine or worse by providing a budget greater than what the rules allows, this is actually a very realistic approach from the AI board at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block4Gooner Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Spurs 2M 39k (season 1 1M 867K = up 72K pw) 2M 89k 30M 13.15M Man U 4M 324k (season1 4M 847K =down 523K) 4M 360k 83M 28M Citeh 4M 168K (season 1 3M 653K = up 515K pw) 4M 535k 11.5M 163M Chelsea 3M 282K (season1 2M 964K = up 318K pw) 3M 642K 20M 48M Liverpool 2M 842K (season 1 2M 773K = up 71K pw) 3M 642K 58M 60M my point is 4 of the 5 teams had an increase and although i won the league and champs league semi finalists mine was reduced. also have 90M to spend but cannot afford wages. had to renew many contracts to stop players leaving ( Ozil, Sanchez and Bellarin the main 3) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 14 minutes ago, Block4Gooner said: Spurs 2M 39k (season 1 1M 867K = up 72K pw) 2M 89k 30M 13.15M Man U 4M 324k (season1 4M 847K =down 523K) 4M 360k 83M 28M Citeh 4M 168K (season 1 3M 653K = up 515K pw) 4M 535k 11.5M 163M Chelsea 3M 282K (season1 2M 964K = up 318K pw) 3M 642K 20M 48M Liverpool 2M 842K (season 1 2M 773K = up 71K pw) 3M 642K 58M 60M my point is 4 of the 5 teams had an increase and although i won the league and champs league semi finalists mine was reduced. also have 90M to spend but cannot afford wages. had to renew many contracts to stop players leaving ( Ozil, Sanchez and Bellarin the main 3) The point is your wage budget cannot be increased due to FFP restrictions. How difficult is that to understand? What other teams do is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block4Gooner Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Just now, Cougar2010 said: The point is your wage budget cannot be increased due to FFP restrictions. How difficult is that to understand? What other teams do is irrelevant. thanks for the tone. you're missing my point. winning things increases club finances. in order to win things you need players. players like to be paid. i have not spent billions on players and paid 300k p/w. ffp is not difficult for me to understand. in every incarnation of FM you could have a smaller transfer budget ad increase your allowed wages which is a kind of book balancing? i do not need the 90M transfer budget as i cannot afford to pay the wages. west Brom agreed to but Rob Holing for 5M but he rejected their contract offer of £200 p/w so other teams are inthe same boat. if this keeps up will the game eventually become unplayable unless you become a selling club? assuming ofcourse other teams can affor to pay wages. as you can see from the abovechart teams have money but no wagebudget unless they get players off their wage bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Block4Gooner said: thanks for the tone. you're missing my point. winning things increases club finances. in order to win things you need players. players like to be paid. i have not spent billions on players and paid 300k p/w. ffp is not difficult for me to understand. in every incarnation of FM you could have a smaller transfer budget ad increase your allowed wages which is a kind of book balancing? i do not need the 90M transfer budget as i cannot afford to pay the wages. west Brom agreed to but Rob Holing for 5M but he rejected their contract offer of £200 p/w so other teams are inthe same boat. if this keeps up will the game eventually become unplayable unless you become a selling club? assuming ofcourse other teams can affor to pay wages. as you can see from the abovechart teams have money but no wagebudget unless they get players off their wage bill and yet again you've missed the point. FFP restricts the amount of wages you can pay. You have been given the limit, the club can't increase it further without breaking the rules however much money they have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block4Gooner Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Cougar2010 said: and yet again you've missed the point. FFP restricts the amount of wages you can pay. You have been given the limit, the club can't increase it further without breaking the rules however much money they have. so these figures in your opinion are correct then? arsenal have bigger attendances, full stadiums, more prize money than the teams mentioned above but their wage budgets increase whilst Arsenal's goes down. in the real world would wage budgets increase with success or faiure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Just now, Block4Gooner said: so these figures in your opinion are correct then? arsenal have bigger attendances, full stadiums, more prize money than the teams mentioned above but their wage budgets increase whilst Arsenal's goes down. I don't know, if you think the rules are applied incorrectly report it in the bugs forum for SI to review. Just now, Block4Gooner said: in the real world would wage budgets increase with success or faiure? IRL the wage budgets depend on the rules, how much money the club has and how much the board are willing to spend on wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block4Gooner Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 everybody failing ffp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vg1999 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Does anyone know what are the penalties for failing FFP (wages). I will fail that part in Liverpool in my second season for sure. Interesting part is that my board allow me to adjust and do with my transfer budget and wage budget whatever I want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The penalty for failing wage FFP requirements in the Premier League is supposed to be just a 20% fine of the amount overspent. Makes perfect sense to me that Arsenal wouldn`t be willing to pay that fine while other teams don`t really care about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vg1999 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 4 hours ago, rusty217 said: The penalty for failing wage FFP requirements in the Premier League is supposed to be just a 20% fine of the amount overspent. If thats really true (only financial penalty) than it doesnt matter. I was worried about that 5 point penalty for the next season. btw im 30 mil. over FFP wage regulations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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